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On the surface the episode really didn't do much for me as you can probably tell by my comments below. But that's kinda the frustrating thing about this show. They can do awful stupid things and take the show in horrible directions.. but the writing is just so good that they can just get away with it. I know others have criticized Rina but it seems almost like she can take the story in ANY direction and the writing will just be so good that it works whether or not it's a good idea or not. Weird thing to say but the quality of the show is both a curse and a blessing at the same time.
1) Reid. The problem with Reid is I simply don't care about him. He's done and shown me nothing to make me care whether he lives or dies. Only reason I particularly wanted him to live is that if he died it would just mean we'd have Ephram moping around for a few episode and an episode wasted on his funeral. I did like Ephram's reaction to it and how his mother took the news. Was well done. 2) Hannah. I really liked her scene with Rose. Rose knew exactly what to say to her and was really sweet about it. As far as Hannah herself. Well. Her relationship with Bright is over. Amy has really moved beyond her since she switched focus from remaking Hannah's life to slavishly following her professor's political agenda. Time to go back to Minnesota. You can send post cards on occasion if you want. 3) Bright. Liked his conversation with his father. Particularly when Harold told him he has a good heart. A bit low stealing the present his dad wanted to give... but I think everyone forgives him anyway. Hope he stops moping since part of the reason we like his character is he is usually the one who isn't moping all the time. 4) Andy / Nina. Can Andy have a relationship with someone who ISN'T taken? Maybe it's just me but the whole thing between them fizzled a long time ago anyway. It seems forced and after the Anne Heche fiasco I want to see him perhaps in a more normal situation. The whole thing made me cringe. 5) Good to see Delia back. Delia wanting to learn to cook. Simple storyline. The type they could make a fun episode out of. Wish the writers would see that adultery, death, and suicide are NOT the only ways to build a story. But I guess with the show up in the air they want to pull out all the stops. 6) Jake is like a train crashing in slow motion. While he has no idea what is happening we all know there is going to be a loud boom and not much left of him is going to remain standing. 7) From the previews. Bright hurt. It seems WB shows all steal from each other and have the exact same themes. In the past it was adultery. I guess this year it's the boyfriend wins back the girl after doing something stupid by doing something even MORE stupid so everyone will feel sorry for him. Do the right thing Hannah. Minnesota. And if you pass Laynie on the way there. Tell her to drop by Colorado. __________________
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Hannah sucks. She needs to go back to Minnesota. Her thing with Bright is probably over. Bright was an idiot and screwed up. Now he is facing the consequences. Besides, it always present that Hannah and Bright didn't belong together. Hannah is a conservative, religious and somewhat prudish person. Bright is like Stifler from American Pie.
Nina needs to pick Andy or Jake. That story line is getting old. Jake isn't there for Nina like Andy. Andy is the guy that Nina can always depend on. I kinda feel sorry for Reid. Last night's episode showed how Amy, Ephram, and Bright don't know Reid that very well. Ephram did the right thing by saving him. So where did Ephram go? Why did he get on that bus? Pack your bags, Hannah. |
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Overall this episode was just kind of there.
Reid: While I did feel sorry for him, I didn't like or even care about his character enough to get very invested in the suicide storyline. I liked Ephram's reactions to it, and I thought the actor who plays Reid did a pretty good job with his limited lines, but it wasn't something that stuck with me like the abortion storyline from season 1. Nina/Jake/Andy: At first I wanted Nina to stay with Jake because I liked the relationship and wanted to see him happy. Now I think that I want them to break up because I'm starting to hate Nina. She doesn't deserve him. If she wants to have lice-ridden sexual tension with Andy, she at least needs to do Jake the courtesy of breaking up with him first...not basically telling Andy she still loves him, and then throwing in that she 'loves' Jake. I know that Jake is one of the more hated characters on this board, but I've always liked him. To have him come back with his declarations that he's going to rededicate himself to the relationship after the scene between Nina and Andy...he deserves better. Bright and Hannah: I like this pairing, but I didn't really get much from this episode. Hannah's scene with Rose was nicely acted, but I really don't get any great longing that either of them has for the other, even though I'm supposed to. Amy: I thought Amy was in this episode just enough. Just enough for me to like her and think about how pretty she is, but not enough for her to do something to make me think she's a jackass and get annoyed with her. Her scenes with Ephram at the beginning and end of the episode were definitely the high points though. Everything else was just kind of there. I didn't register it enough to even make a comment on it. Delia was just kind of thrown in so Nina and Andy could have their 'moment', and Harold and Rose didn't have a lot to do either. I couldn't even muster up a whole lot of feeling for the Harold/Bright scene either, even though I kind of wanted to. __________________
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Finally I was able to watch the episode! Like Michelle, I had lots of phone calls while the show was on, and ended up having to pop a tape in, and wait till I could sit down and watch it. So here are my thoughts on the episode:
Ephram/Amy: Can i just say one thing? WOW. It's only a matter of days (er.. in this case, episodes) till they get back together. A reuinion between them is inevitable, that's for sure. Both scenes in this episode were so incredibly amazing... And I was pleasantly surprised when Ephram confessed telling Reid to back off, and Amy didn't get pissed about it. I honestly expected that to come back and bite Ephram. Quote:
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Hannah/Bright: I found it painful to watch. Acting could have been better on Chris' part, but I honestly think Sarah did a great job. Knowing first, and even second hand what it's like to be cheated on, I'd say she really did a great job. I don't think there's a 'right' way to act in real life in that type of situation, altho I admit, I wasn't all for the scene with her beating the pillow.. Reid: I was oddly totally drawn to this storyline and I love how they delt with it. I actually like how the started the episode off with Ephram busting through the bathroom door and finding Reid. I think it was more believable. And Reid explaining how it "felt" as Ephram asked him to was awesome. I have a depression problem and I give such high praise to this storyline and how it was/is being delt with and how things were explained. Quote:
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I am also glad to see Delia in the episode. Wow is she growing up! I really think Vivian Cardone will end up like Makenzie Roseman (the actress who plays Ruthie on 7th Heaven). When both girls started out on their shows, they were young and adorable, but the older they got, well... let's say they certainly caught the attention of the male viewers i see that being the case with Vivian. Also glad to see the Andy/Delia scene. Seems things are going more smoothly between them, which is amazing to see. I'm really glad to see that Andy/Ephram: I loved the scens they had, namely their last scene in this episode. I am really glad things are going well for them. I liked Ephram's comment about how, "I know you have withdrawls, but it's goin to be okay." Very glad to see them getting along so well once more. I adore the interaction between these two. Also, I know this was questioned and talked about a lot.... I don' think Bright dies. The scene in the promo where Amy is crying on Hannah's shoulder is actually from last season when she first told her abuot Rose' cancer. GRR to the WB for throwing in that. I can't even believe there are 3 episodes left! Quote:
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I’ll have more to say later in the week, but I must say that I had been dreading “Reidgate,” i.e. the moment that Amy would find out that Ephram had told Reid to back off from her, and I figured that all hell would break loose, but I was pleasantly surprised that Ephram told Amy what he had done in a regretful, honest, and mature manner, and that Amy reacted so well to his revealing that to her.
Ephram, as always, stole the episode with his genuine concern for Reid, and he really has a heart as big as the great outdoors, as he saw what can happen if someone cuts himself off from the world, so his reaction was to think of others, and reach out to Kyle once again and go off to see him. I loved Ephram and Amy’s goodbye scene, and their “call me” signal was touching and sweet. I also really enjoyed watching Harold tell Bright that he admired him, and he said precisely the right thing that Bright needed to hear at a very difficult time in his life. I’m really getting tired of the Jake/Andy/Nina love triangle, and Nina needs to make up her mind and realize that with Jake, she’ll always come second, but with Andy, she’ll always come first. Great comments everyone. __________________
The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this endeavor will light our country and all who serve it - and the glow from that fire can truly light the world. - John F. Kennedy
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I think it's incredably ironic that Ephram found Reid in this episode.
Right now I am watching the clip where they had that confrontation earlier this year about Amy, and Reid specifically said, "You know, when you and I first met you, I didn't exactly get a warm and fuzzy..." So it sounds like they didn't get along well since the get go. But I'm guessing even though they didn't show it on screen, the tension betwen Ephram and Reid -hopefully- went down a few notches since that episode. Than again, I had missed a few episodes in a row till just last week. i just think it incredably ironic is all __________________
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word. I was also shocked that Amy didn't get mad about Ephram telling Reid to stop dating Amy. I still think he had no right to say that to him, but she also made a point that he didn't have to listen to him
I kind of agree with whoever said it's time for Hannah to go. I didn't like how she was treating Amy. I think she was in the wrong, not Amy. It really bothered me how she got mad at Amy for having her hang out with her new friends off topic. anyone notice how how nobody uses the TC references on Jake like last season? LOL __________________
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^^ No kidding. My how times have changed.
Excellent posts everyone. hshapir, I completely agree with your take on Amy and Hannah. I never thought Amy did anything wrong and I was extremely annoyed by some of Hannah's actions. |
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I really enjoyed this episode. Its not one of the absolute best this season, but it was still really good. I LOVED the scenes between Bright and his dad. I also liked the ephram/amy scene and the scene between ephram and reids mom. I like seeing Delia too, even if its just for a little bit. And the whole Jake/Nina thing doesn't really bug me that much. It just makes it so that when Andy and Nina do get together it will be an even bigger deal and more special. I still have never seen a bad episode of everwood, and i don't think there will ever be one.
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You pretty much summarized my thoughts. Jake bores me to no end and its frustrating because I know he is used just to delay Andy/Nina and its so obvious. He serves no other purpose and why with the series possibly ending do we have to endure all the painful Jake time. At least have Nina with Jake but cut his screentime and have Andy/Nina flirting a bit more. I am sick of him coming on at the end of every episode and doing something touching so Nina delays the break up with him and union with Andy. Hes just a ploy. I dont care about him. Quote:
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