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Old 08-31-2020, 07:02 PM
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Yeah, they barely had one or two scenes in the whole season. I wonder if it had to do with Josh and Katie breaking up? Or did the writers just...drop their dynamic for whatever reason?
When Andie was first introduced I remember thinking, "Why are they trying to make this girl Joey-lite??"

I really missed the P/J interactions in Season 2 too, and assumed the writers knew their dynamic worked so well that they used it for his relationship with another girl since he couldn't have Joey. (Except it didn't measure up, of course.) They just made her richer and more neurotic about her grades. I figured they were being lazy, and that maybe they didn't want both girls bantering with Pacey in the same frame and highlighting all of the similarities.

But... Now that you ask, I wonder if they kept them apart because he couldn't be with Joey YET, and they didn't want US to catch on to how great they would be together...

A bunch of people were P/J fans from the snail-hunting episode or Beauty Pageant. After Season 2 made me realize how much I hated Dawson both as a character and as a boyfriend for my still-favorite-at-the-time Joey, a simple P/J fan-fiction I read during the summer hiatus between Season 2 and Season 3 opened my eyes to how perfect they would be. That was all it took. I always loved Pacey, but he became irresistibly hot in Season 2, and I think if I saw them together in just a few more episodes I would have been like "FUG Jack! Get with PACEY!" (See what I did there? Lol I love how Clumsy Jack turned varsity.)

But she couldn't get with Pacey yet, they needed her for Jack's storyline! Kevin Williamson had Jack's storyline already in mind from the beginning, if I remember correctly. So maybe all of that is why. Because it was really, really obvious how they completely and totally dropped Pacey and Joey's scenes together. They did the same thing in Season 5.

Aww, how majestic is this ship! First, in Season 2, the writers had to pretend like Pacey and Joey weren't friends who totally had a relationship that was separate from Dawson, one in which they confided in each other and encouraged each other when they were both feeling particularly low. Then, in Season 4, they had break them up in a painfully coerced and completely out of character fashion. After that, in Season 5, the writers pretended they were virtual strangers again! Why? Because the moment they exchange more than a few lines of banter you (I) start wondering why aren't they making out right now??

Edited to Add: That would have been extremely accommodating of the writers if it was just due to their break up! It's possible, they often said it was like family down there. But I think they were still dating in Season 2. By all accounts I heard they were together for over a year. They obviously met in 1997 to begin filming, and when I Googled it just now and I'm seeing some sources state they broke up in 1999. If that's true it would explain why some of those kisses were *particularly* steamy, that was some post-breakup angst right there, poor guys! If I was Katie -- depending on the circumstances of their breakup -- all of those lovey-dovey scenes they had to film together definitely would have led to a relapse or two if you get my drift!
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Like I said before, I think the reasons they kept Pacey and Joey apart in instances like S2, the end of S4, and S5 was so their chemistry didn't overshadow the other pairings IE Dawson/Joey, Pacey/Andie, Pacey/Audry, etc. The other pairings always paled in comparison to the goldmine chemistry that Pacey and Joey had. I've seen other shows do the same, they keep the hotter pairing away from each other to help force the stale popcorn couple down your throat instead. KW also said after seeing their explosive chemistry in S1, they had to put a lid over it cause they had to do D/J zzz so there you go. I've always heard JJ and KH broke up before S3, I still can't imagine the awkwardness of having to film their characters getting together right after they broke up in real life but they never let it show on the show. It was still as hot and natural as ever. True professionals!
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1. 1x02 - Dance


Joey: I'm reaching a breaking point with this whole kiss thing.
Pacey: I'm not engorged with this, either okay? It goes both ways.

2. 1x03 - Kiss

Pacey: Could it be? Joey is finally noticing the opposite sex!
Joey: Shut up.
Pacey: (shouts) Excuse me young man. This woman here thinks you’re very attractive….
Joey: You buttplug!
Pacey: Forget it, Joey. Guys off yachts don’t go for waitresses….*
Joey: I’m going to kill you. One night in your sleep. A slit to the throat maybe, or a screwdriver to your temple. Be ready.

3. 1x04 - Discovery
Eliminated - Round 6

4. 1x06 - Baby

Pacey: Feel free to keep on walking. I won’t think you’re rude.
Joey: Look, despite first impressions, I’m not here to bust on you. I don’t know if the rumors are true or exaggerated, or if this is one of your attempts to appear more attractive to the girls, but I just wanted to say I know what you must be going through.
Pacey: No, I really doubt you know what I’m going through.
Joey: Well, let me see. People stare when you walk down the hall. We’ve seen that. They whisper behind your back. You overhear your name in the conversation of strangers. Soon, a justifiable paranoia sets in. Whether they are or not, you’re convinced everyone’s talking. Imagine if you’d done something even worse.
Pacey: Like what?
Joey: Sharing a house with your pregnant, unwed sister and her black boyfriend, while your father serves time on a drug conviction. Imagine that, Pacey. We actually have something in common: Providing gossip for the small-minded townsfolk. And, unfortunately for you, you’re tonight’s top story.
Pacey: Great. So, what do I do now?
Joey: Same thing I did. You pray like hell for a better story to come along.

5. 1x08 - Boyfriend

PACEY: Not that I care, but you might want to pace yourself with this stuff.
JOEY: Pacey, I know I don’t say it enough, but you’re a really terrific friend.
PACEY: Okay. Thanks. Yeah.
NICE SERIAL RAPIST MAN: Is this guy bothering you, Chloe?
PACEY: Okay, just a couple of things… First, her name’s not Chloe. It’s Joey. And second, no, I’m not hitting on her. I’m just her friend. God knows

6. 1x08 - Boyfriend

Pacey: Alright, Jo.. say goodbye to the nice serial rapist man.
Blonde Guy: You again a-hole! She doesn’t want to leave.
Joey: Come on, please leave, Pacey.
Pacey: Alright, cowboy. Party’s over.

7. 21. 1x10 - Double Date

JOEY: What? What’s that smile of yours? Is it because I look ridiculous?
PACEY: No.
JOEY: Or is it that my misfortune amuses you? Or maybe it’s simply you just enjoy putting me in the most awkward situations and watching me squirm, Pacey.
PACEY: No, it’s none of that. I was just thinking to myself that when you loosen up, you’re not half bad to be around. Bordering on fun, even.
JOEY: Home, Jeeves.
PACEY: Yes, Miss Daisy

8. 1x10 - Double Date

JOEY: Look around you, Pacey. I mean, look at what my life is. I’m a boarder in my sister’s house, I share my bedroom with the living room, and my social life consists of a part-time job. As far as I can tell there are only two ways to make my life better. And the one that doesn’t involve waking up and discovering it’s all been a dream involves a college scholarship. When I apply I better have the grades that don’t give them a choice because a scholarship is pretty much my only way out of Capeside. And if I don’t get out of here, Pacey, well, it’ll be a sadder story than I care to imagine. Okay?
PACEY: You don’t have to worry, Jo. You’re going to make it out of here. You’re going to go to some great school and send me postcards back here where I’ll be tending bar or pumping gas.
JOEY: Come on, Pacey. You’ll get out too.
PACEY: Yeah, if the circus is hiring.

9. 1x10 - Double Date


10. 1x13 - Decisions
Eliminated - Round 4

11. 1x13 - Decisions
Eliminated - Round 2

12. 3x01 - Like A Virgin

Pacey: Ahoy, there! Anyone ashore?
Joey: What are you doing here?
Pacey: Well, it’s the damnedest thing. I just got into Dawson’s rowboat and magically drifted towards your dock.
Joey: Yeah, well, magically drift any closer and I’ll kill you.
Pacey: You know, I almost believe that.
Joey: He told you, didn’t he? Didn’t he?
Pacey: Well, what do you think?
Joey: I think I hate you both.
Pacey: Well, then you’re really gonna hate me when you hear what I have to say. He did the right thing. The two of you need to be apart right now.
Joey: How would you know what I need?
Pacey: Yeah, yeah. You know, you’re probably right. How could I possibly know how hard it is to let somebody go, right? The pain of knowing that even though the two of you are right for each other, that doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re right for each other right now. What I would know about that, right? How could I possibly know that sometimes it just makes you want to scream, hit somebody. Sit out on the end of a dock and cry?
Joey: Of all the people to see me like this, it had to be you.
Pacey: You know, it’s a new year. Who knows? You and I might even become friends.
Joey: Pacey, I’m upset enough as it is.
Pacey: Come here, Potter.

13. 3x02 - Homecoming

Eliminated - Round 5

14. 3x03 - None of the Above

JOEY; Here, I brought you a Pepsi.
PACEY; No, thanks, I’m not thirsty.
JOEY; It’s for your lip, moron, in lieu of ice.
PACEY; I can’t believe he thought I took it.
JOEY; So what, Pacey?
PACEY; I thought if I’d earned anyone’s respect, it was Dawson’s. I mean, if the guy who knows you better than anyone on earth thinks you’re a loser, then maybe…
JOEY; Then maybe you are one? C’mon. I mean, I thought you were a loser for years, but you’ve never believed me. [they share a smile]
PACEY; It’s just, you know, when does a person start believing the general consensus about themselves?
JOEY; When it’s right.

15. 3x03 - None of the Above


16. 3x04 - Home Movies

Pacey: “You watch, Potter. A couple of months and I’ll be sailing this baby around the world.”
Joey: “I’d hate to break it to you, Captain Stooping, but you can’t sail around the world in a 20 ft. boat.”
Pacey: “Sure I can!”
Joey: “Where are you gonna put the supplies?”
Pacey: “Hey, the U.S.S Minnow was no bigger than this and they found room for all of Mr. Howell’s money, all of the professor’s tools, all of Ginger’s clothes, and where do you think you’re going?”
Joey: “Permission to come aboard?”
Pacey: “Permission granted.”

17. 3x06 - Secrets and Lies
Eliminated - Round 1

18. 3x09 - Four to Tango

Eliminated - Round 3

19. 3x09 - Four to Tango

DANCE INSTRUCTOR: Now these two on the other hand- whole different story. I mean, look at them. Look at their- their form. Look at the tension in their arms.
PACEY: Okay, is there some sort of problem here?
DANCE INSTRUCTOR: Well, what did I say about ribcages touching?
JOEY: No, sorry.
PACEY: It’s just not gonna happen, alright?
DANCE INSTRUCTOR: Right. You see what I mean? See the hostility, the way they’re wary with each other. Not to mention the whole bickering and name calling. Now these two clearly are in the early stages of some screwball mating ritual.
PACEY: What?
JOEY: Okay, you got it all wrong lady.
PACEY: Completely!
JOEY: Actually, you could not be more wrong.
DANCE INSTRUCTOR: There’s enough sexual tension here to power a Kiss reunion tour. I can’t remember the last time I saw dancing this bad. True.
DAWSON: Wait a minute, you think just because they can’t dance, they’re-
DANCE INSTRUCTOR: Well, it’s this theory that I’ve developed by some years of experience. if people dance that badly they’re usually hot for each other. The dancing doesn’t lie.

20. 3x09 - Four to Tango


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Best of Pacey and Joey: Buildup Survivor - Part 1


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Round 8


1. 1x02 - Dance
Eliminated - Round 7

2. 1x03 - Kiss

Pacey: Could it be? Joey is finally noticing the opposite sex!
Joey: Shut up.
Pacey: (shouts) Excuse me young man. This woman here thinks you’re very attractive….
Joey: You buttplug!
Pacey: Forget it, Joey. Guys off yachts don’t go for waitresses….*
Joey: I’m going to kill you. One night in your sleep. A slit to the throat maybe, or a screwdriver to your temple. Be ready.

3. 1x04 - Discovery
Eliminated - Round 6

4. 1x06 - Baby

Pacey: Feel free to keep on walking. I won’t think you’re rude.
Joey: Look, despite first impressions, I’m not here to bust on you. I don’t know if the rumors are true or exaggerated, or if this is one of your attempts to appear more attractive to the girls, but I just wanted to say I know what you must be going through.
Pacey: No, I really doubt you know what I’m going through.
Joey: Well, let me see. People stare when you walk down the hall. We’ve seen that. They whisper behind your back. You overhear your name in the conversation of strangers. Soon, a justifiable paranoia sets in. Whether they are or not, you’re convinced everyone’s talking. Imagine if you’d done something even worse.
Pacey: Like what?
Joey: Sharing a house with your pregnant, unwed sister and her black boyfriend, while your father serves time on a drug conviction. Imagine that, Pacey. We actually have something in common: Providing gossip for the small-minded townsfolk. And, unfortunately for you, you’re tonight’s top story.
Pacey: Great. So, what do I do now?
Joey: Same thing I did. You pray like hell for a better story to come along.

5. 1x08 - Boyfriend

PACEY: Not that I care, but you might want to pace yourself with this stuff.
JOEY: Pacey, I know I don’t say it enough, but you’re a really terrific friend.
PACEY: Okay. Thanks. Yeah.
NICE SERIAL RAPIST MAN: Is this guy bothering you, Chloe?
PACEY: Okay, just a couple of things… First, her name’s not Chloe. It’s Joey. And second, no, I’m not hitting on her. I’m just her friend. God knows

6. 1x08 - Boyfriend

Pacey: Alright, Jo.. say goodbye to the nice serial rapist man.
Blonde Guy: You again a-hole! She doesn’t want to leave.
Joey: Come on, please leave, Pacey.
Pacey: Alright, cowboy. Party’s over.

7. 21. 1x10 - Double Date

JOEY: What? What’s that smile of yours? Is it because I look ridiculous?
PACEY: No.
JOEY: Or is it that my misfortune amuses you? Or maybe it’s simply you just enjoy putting me in the most awkward situations and watching me squirm, Pacey.
PACEY: No, it’s none of that. I was just thinking to myself that when you loosen up, you’re not half bad to be around. Bordering on fun, even.
JOEY: Home, Jeeves.
PACEY: Yes, Miss Daisy

8. 1x10 - Double Date

JOEY: Look around you, Pacey. I mean, look at what my life is. I’m a boarder in my sister’s house, I share my bedroom with the living room, and my social life consists of a part-time job. As far as I can tell there are only two ways to make my life better. And the one that doesn’t involve waking up and discovering it’s all been a dream involves a college scholarship. When I apply I better have the grades that don’t give them a choice because a scholarship is pretty much my only way out of Capeside. And if I don’t get out of here, Pacey, well, it’ll be a sadder story than I care to imagine. Okay?
PACEY: You don’t have to worry, Jo. You’re going to make it out of here. You’re going to go to some great school and send me postcards back here where I’ll be tending bar or pumping gas.
JOEY: Come on, Pacey. You’ll get out too.
PACEY: Yeah, if the circus is hiring.

9. 1x10 - Double Date


10. 1x13 - Decisions
Eliminated - Round 4

11. 1x13 - Decisions
Eliminated - Round 2

12. 3x01 - Like A Virgin

Pacey: Ahoy, there! Anyone ashore?
Joey: What are you doing here?
Pacey: Well, it’s the damnedest thing. I just got into Dawson’s rowboat and magically drifted towards your dock.
Joey: Yeah, well, magically drift any closer and I’ll kill you.
Pacey: You know, I almost believe that.
Joey: He told you, didn’t he? Didn’t he?
Pacey: Well, what do you think?
Joey: I think I hate you both.
Pacey: Well, then you’re really gonna hate me when you hear what I have to say. He did the right thing. The two of you need to be apart right now.
Joey: How would you know what I need?
Pacey: Yeah, yeah. You know, you’re probably right. How could I possibly know how hard it is to let somebody go, right? The pain of knowing that even though the two of you are right for each other, that doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re right for each other right now. What I would know about that, right? How could I possibly know that sometimes it just makes you want to scream, hit somebody. Sit out on the end of a dock and cry?
Joey: Of all the people to see me like this, it had to be you.
Pacey: You know, it’s a new year. Who knows? You and I might even become friends.
Joey: Pacey, I’m upset enough as it is.
Pacey: Come here, Potter.

13. 3x02 - Homecoming

Eliminated - Round 5

14. 3x03 - None of the Above

JOEY; Here, I brought you a Pepsi.
PACEY; No, thanks, I’m not thirsty.
JOEY; It’s for your lip, moron, in lieu of ice.
PACEY; I can’t believe he thought I took it.
JOEY; So what, Pacey?
PACEY; I thought if I’d earned anyone’s respect, it was Dawson’s. I mean, if the guy who knows you better than anyone on earth thinks you’re a loser, then maybe…
JOEY; Then maybe you are one? C’mon. I mean, I thought you were a loser for years, but you’ve never believed me. [they share a smile]
PACEY; It’s just, you know, when does a person start believing the general consensus about themselves?
JOEY; When it’s right.

15. 3x03 - None of the Above


16. 3x04 - Home Movies

Pacey: “You watch, Potter. A couple of months and I’ll be sailing this baby around the world.”
Joey: “I’d hate to break it to you, Captain Stooping, but you can’t sail around the world in a 20 ft. boat.”
Pacey: “Sure I can!”
Joey: “Where are you gonna put the supplies?”
Pacey: “Hey, the U.S.S Minnow was no bigger than this and they found room for all of Mr. Howell’s money, all of the professor’s tools, all of Ginger’s clothes, and where do you think you’re going?”
Joey: “Permission to come aboard?”
Pacey: “Permission granted.”

17. 3x06 - Secrets and Lies
Eliminated - Round 1

18. 3x09 - Four to Tango

Eliminated - Round 3

19. 3x09 - Four to Tango

DANCE INSTRUCTOR: Now these two on the other hand- whole different story. I mean, look at them. Look at their- their form. Look at the tension in their arms.
PACEY: Okay, is there some sort of problem here?
DANCE INSTRUCTOR: Well, what did I say about ribcages touching?
JOEY: No, sorry.
PACEY: It’s just not gonna happen, alright?
DANCE INSTRUCTOR: Right. You see what I mean? See the hostility, the way they’re wary with each other. Not to mention the whole bickering and name calling. Now these two clearly are in the early stages of some screwball mating ritual.
PACEY: What?
JOEY: Okay, you got it all wrong lady.
PACEY: Completely!
JOEY: Actually, you could not be more wrong.
DANCE INSTRUCTOR: There’s enough sexual tension here to power a Kiss reunion tour. I can’t remember the last time I saw dancing this bad. True.
DAWSON: Wait a minute, you think just because they can’t dance, they’re-
DANCE INSTRUCTOR: Well, it’s this theory that I’ve developed by some years of experience. if people dance that badly they’re usually hot for each other. The dancing doesn’t lie.

20. 3x09 - Four to Tango


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