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Old 05-31-2005, 12:12 PM
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264 Daisies/Roses 4 D/Jo:“At the end of the day, she wants him there with her."

Welcome to the Dawson Leery and Joey Potter appreciation thread!

The actors behind Dawson Leery and Joey Potter are James van der beek and Katie Holmes.

Courtesy of Britney:

*Why do we say Daisies and roses for Dawson and Joey?*

In the second season premeir, which is called "The Kiss" Dawson and Joey have their first date, and on that first date Dawson gives Joey a Daisy, he said he thought of everything, chocolates, diamonds, convertables - but he settled for foliage.

And Foliage is good.

Then in the 602, entitled, "The Song Remains the same", which is the second episode of season 6, Dawson and Joey sleep together, and that morning Dawson gives Joey a White rose, and its increadibly romantic. Joey says that theres a $500 fine to pick them, and he says, It's worth every penny. I think thats the reason why we consider them the Daisy and Roses couple.


Once that was said, a little intro about our couple: who they are and what they mean to each other. Thanx Coolcat200 for this review (about Coda, episode 423) that explains, so beatifully, what D/J are:

True North

It's there. There's no doubt.

But what is it. It's undefinable and yet it's unmistakable: the thickening of the air when Joey and Dawson share a scene.

Is it chemistry? Joey and Pacey have chemistry, but it's not like what she has with Dawson.

It's something different. It's something more.

I've never been one to go in for the whole soul mate thing, but I think it fits. These two people are part of each other, extensions of each other. No matter where they go or whom they are with, they will always come back together because one can't survive without the other.

Joey said that Dawson is her magic. She loved, maybe still loves, Pacey but the magic faded. Love alone wasn't enough to sustain them. But with Dawson, after everything they have been through, the magic still flows.

Dawson wasn't thanking Spielberg. The director wasn't the most prolific influence in his life. He didn't shape Dawson and make him the man he is today. Joey did that.

There's no doubt that they love each other, and that they always will. But it more than that.

It's about finding someone whose life is so intrinsically linked to your own that you don't know where you end and they begin? And not only being okay with that, but also craving it.

It's about finding someone who is so much a part of you that you can't imagine who you would be without them.

It's about knowing a person so well that even when the walls are up you see right through them.

And no matter where they go from here, Dawson and Joey are that for each other: and they always will be.

And that is what this show is all about.



You can say that again!! Nothing will ever change that, and that is why we, and everybody else (even the ones who won't admit it out loud ) know that these two would eventually get back together. Once and for all.

Now, on with the show...



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Quotes:

Tom Kapinos

"Well, my feelings are this, and this is just one writer's opinion, but to me the show is about Dawson and Joey and it's about these two people who meet really young, and they are sort of meant to be. They are soulmates, but life gets in the way, and it's impossible when you're that young to sustain a relationship like that. So each person has to go off and have other relationships that are positive and real and important. I think Dawson and Joey ultimately... I would like to think they would make their way back to each other, but in the meantime they have all these other relationships to explore."

Anna Fricke

"I'll say this: I do think that this show, regardless of my opinion, is about the love between Dawson and Joey. When you cut everything else away, those two are at the heart".

Greg Berlanti

"I sort of always make the case that [Dawson's Creek] is about a pair of soulmates who met too young, and that's who Joey and Dawson are, but part of the power of our show is, how do these people still manage to find their way back to each other?"

James & Katie

Katie: Yeah, we have no idea. What’s so fun about these two characters is, it is something that is so untouchable, that connection that everyone can kinda relate to, I think. I mean, I think most people have a Dawson and a Joey. (looks at James)
James: Yeah.
Both nod.
Katie: And so it's really fun, so we don’t necessarily have to know where these two characters are going because it's something we can really play with because it is very realistic that they were go in and out, in and out and in and out.

Random Quotes:

"Holmes is, as usual, too adorable for words, and she and Van Der Beek continue to be a fine match."

"Once at the point of a love triangle with half-brothers and arch-rivals Nathan and Lucas Scott, Peyton finds herslef digging a new boy. We're still pulling for her and Lucas in a Dawson/Joey kind of way."

Find out the ~ 500 reasons why we love Dawson Leery and Joey Potter ~

Welcome to the Dawson and Joey appreciation thread. To find some Dawson and Joey goodness, you can go here:

/Websites\

~ Pure Magic ~

~ Bed of Roses ~.

~ Peter's fanfiction ~

~ Soulmates ~

~ You and me always ~

~ Dawson and Joey Art Collection ~

~ James and Katie Webpage ~


/Fanlistings\

* ~ DaydreamBeliever: the Coda fanlisting ~

* ~ Your life awaits: the Swang Song fanlisting ~


* ~ Romantic Dreamer Addicted to Movies: Dawson Leery Fanlisting ~

* ~ Be careful what you wish for: episode 2.16 fanlisting ~ <<<<<< NEW

* ~ The Perfect wedding: episode 2.18 fanlisting ~ <<<<<< NEW

* ~ Ch...ch... changes: episode 2.21 fanlisting ~ <<<<<< NEW

* ~ Reunited: episode 2.20 fanlisting ~ <<<<<< NEW

If you have a site you would like to be added to the opening post, please let us know.

If there was something that always defined D/J and their history, was music. Music never lies, and that is why I would like to post in here some observations made by Brandi about some of the lyrics used for our couple. It was (and it still is) Dawson and Joey all the way baby! They even have their own song, written specially for them: "Joey girl", by Binge (see lyrics scrolling down)

Anyway, here you got Brandi's post:

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I was listening to my D/J comp CD's last night, and I just fell in love with D/J's songs all over again. I listened to them straight through for hours, and I kept hearing the same themes popping up in the songs:

Marriage:

"Love for all my life, to have and to hold"- (Sunday Kind Of Love)
"He and I, we needed a brass band"- (Thistle)
"Someday somebody gonna ask you, a question that you should say yes to"- (Questions)
"He wants to marry me, carry me far away"- (Thinking Over)

Rain:

"In the rain, the pavement shines like silver"- (On My Own)
"And rain falls angry on the tin roof"- (I'll Be)
"I fall alseep to the sound of London rain"- (London Rain)
"Kiss the rain whenever you need me"- (Kiss The Rain)

Home:

"Too long, too far from home"- (Full Of Grace)
"Without a home, without a friend, without a face to say hello to"- (On My Own)
"Now I'm just rolling home, into my lover's arms"- (Broken Road)
"I'm coming, I'm coming home to you"- (London Rain)
"It feels like home to me"- (Feels Like Home)
"You see that I'm crying, though I'm going home"- (Music To My Ears)
"He took her by the hand, walked her back home, and they took the long way"- (Questions)
"So I took a little time, and you took a little space, but the house is feeling cold"- (Tell Me)
"So when I lose my way, please call me home, I pray"- (Your Love)

Roads/Paths:

"God blessed the broken road that lead me straight to you"- (Broken Road)
"Like the path of a star, I'll be everywhere you are"- "(Say Goodnight, Not Goodbye)
"When the road gets dark, and you can no longer see"- (Have A Little Faith In Me)
"Maybe this road we're on's the very thing that's come between us; maybe it's the highway to the very thing that just might save us"- (Each Little Mystery)
"I take the road that's right, even if I'm left alone"- (Wait For The Way)
"You're really somewhere down the road...I know"- (Souviners)
"But borrowed faith is just not the road to take"- (Camelot)
"The path of nails and scars is the only way"- (Camelot)
"We may never meet again on the bumpy road to love"- (Can't Take That Away From Me)
"There are two roads to walk down, and one road to choose"- (Thinking Over)

Even in the lyrics, it's clear that D/J are on the "road" to each other, because they are each other's "home". Even though that journey may be a long one and has a lot of obstacles ("rain"), once they finally reach "home", they will be together forever. The music doesn't lie!

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"What we have is forever". "Yes, it is". "I love you Dawson". "I love you too Joey". "You and me always". "Always".

"Joey Girl"
Performed and written by Binge


All the things that we've been through
And all the things we didn't do
The colors fade
The seasons change
And all the time I've waited here for you

All the things that I should have done
To all the wars we've never won
The stars will fall
The leaves will change
My love for you will always be the same

Joey, my arms are open for you
Joey, you know that you are mine
Joey, you know that I adore you
Joey girl, someday I'll make you mine

It seems to me that I've been here once before
Can't you see that it's all worth fighting for
You used to come in through my window
But I can't wait here anymore, Joey girl...

All that signs that I misread
All the things I should have said
They haunt me now
But things will change
My love for you will always stay the same

Joey, my arms are open for you
Joey, you know that you are mine
Joey, you know that I adore you
Joey girl, someday I'll make you mine
I'll make you mine...

Watch the video here <<<< LINK FIXED!!

Remember: something has to end to begin again. This end was just a new beginning for D/J, like it always has been, because they are...


So keep the D&J love going!

Former Thread Titles

259 Daisies & Roses 4 Dawson & Joey:“He’s her best friend, he understands her better then anyone else.”
260 Daisies/Roses 4 D/Jo:"She just wanted to go home, and home was in his arms.”
261 Daisies/Roses 4 Dawson & Joey:"They are far and away the more compelling couple."
262 Daisies/Roses 4 D/Jo: She’s his conscience, his soulmate, and his inspiration.
263 Daisies & Roses 4 D/Jo:“Cuz of the intense, sexual vibe between the two of them.”


Carry on D/Jers!
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Old 05-31-2005, 12:16 PM
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Thank you for the new thread Britney!
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^ No Problem.

The reason i picked the title i did is because i watched the scene from where it came from last night:

[The airport, seating area. Dawson and Joey are sitting and talking to each other before his flight.]

Clerk in BG: Thank you, sir, You are all set.

Man: Thank You.

Joey: So, did you get to say goodbye to Jen and Jack?

Dawson: Uh, yeah, jack at least. Uh, Jen wasn’t there when I stopped by. Man, must be nice.

Joey: What is?

Dawson: Having them around all the time.

Joey: Yeah, it is. Even though it is someone else’s house, and somebody else’s grandmother, it’s…still like having a safety net I guess. Or…I don’t know a…

Dawson: A family.

Joey: Yeah, Like a family. Puts everything in perspective. It helps you separate what matters from what doesn’t.

Clerk: This is your final call. Boarding all rows at gate C-3.

[He stands up, and then turns back to Joey.]

Dawson: And what does matter?

Joey: You. That’s why I got upset this morning, Dawson. I had spent the entire weekend thinking that you had heard everything I had to say on that message and that you came anyway. That you understood me.

Dawson: Joey, as long that I live, I will never understand you. I mean, I had this fantastic weekend. Hanging out with you. Hanging out with my friends. Questions whether or not, I even wanted to go back to LA, and then I wake up this morning to find out that the girl that was so upset that I couldn’t come, could actually kiss me off in the waning hours of Friday night.

Clerk: Once again folks, this is the final call for gate C-3.

[He turns to the gate, and then back to Joey.]

Joey: Dawson, I never said it was going to be easy.

Dawson: Then tell me one thing that you do know.

Joey: I know that I wanted you there. At the end of the day, when I got back to my room, I wanted you there.

Dawson: Why?

Joey: I don’t know why. I don’t know what I meant. I just know that I wanted you there.

Dawson: Joey, I am here. I’ve been here for two days, and only now are we finding a way to talk about stuff that really matters. Like why you left that message. All right? And you know, maybe that is the ending we are supposed to have. Maybe every other attraction that we feel each other is just, fear of moving on, fear of growing up.

Joey: Is that what you really think?

Dawson: I don’t know, but I do know that if I get on this plane, I am never going to find out. All right, because, we’re gonna, we’re gonna move on, we’re going to grow up, and four years from now we are going to wake up, and we are going to be complete strangers to each other. The only thing that I know for sure, it that I don’t want that to happen. Do you?

[The clerk comes up to Dawson and taps him on the shoulder.]

Clerk: Sir. Are you getting on the plane sir?

[Dawson looks at her and then back to Joey.]

Dawson: Do you want that to happen?

Joey: No. Of course not.

[Dawson drops his bag, and they sit back down on the chairs, and continue to talk as the camera pulls away.]

*Someday somebody's gonna ask you, a question that you should say yes to, once in your life. Maybe tonight i've got a question for you.*

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awww that's a cute scene. I enjoyed it the first time I saw it and I wasn't a DJ shipper. Even if you don't ship them as a couple you have to recognise their special bond and relation ship
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Hey great start Brit!! Love the new title!
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Wow, new thread! The other thread ended so fast!
Anyways,

Great title, Brit!
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Love the title you guys. I found this song while listening to my Jesse McCartney CD. It's called "Why Don't You Kiss Her?" the roles are sort of reversed if you think back to season 1, but it reminded me of D/J nonethless"

We're the best of friends
And we share our secrets
She knows everything that is on my mind
Lately something's changed
As I lie awake, in my bed
A voice here inside my head
Softly says

Why don't you kiss her
Why don't you tell her
Why don't you let her see the feelings that you hide
She'll never know
If you never show
The way you feel inside

Oh, I'm so afraid
To make the first move
Just a touch and we could
cross the line
And everytime shes near
I wanna never let her go
Confess to her what my heart
knows, hold her close

Why don't you kiss her
Why don't you tell her
Why don't you let her see the feelings that you hide
She'll never know
If you never show
The way you feel inside

What would she say
I wonder would she just turn away
or would she promise me
that she's here to stay
It hurts me to wait
I keep asking myself

Why Don't you kiss her (tell her you love her)
Why Don't You tell her (tell her you need her)
Why don't you let her see
The Feelings that you hide
Cause she'll never know
If you never show
The way you feel inside
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yay!! well done everyone and thanks for opening the new thread Britney - hope you had a great birthday too

Kates123, that is a great song. I was thinking I wish it was something Dawson had done in the finale -
Why don't you kiss her
Why don't you tell her
Why don't you let her see the feelings that you hide
She'll never know
If you never show
The way you feel inside
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Originally Posted by Kates123
Love the title you guys. I found this song while listening to my Jesse McCartney CD. It's called "Why Don't You Kiss Her?" the roles are sort of reversed if you think back to season 1, but it reminded me of D/J nonethless"

We're the best of friends
And we share our secrets
She knows everything that is on my mind
Lately something's changed
As I lie awake, in my bed
A voice here inside my head
Softly says

Why don't you kiss her
Why don't you tell her
Why don't you let her see the feelings that you hide
She'll never know
If you never show
The way you feel inside

Oh, I'm so afraid
To make the first move
Just a touch and we could
cross the line
And everytime shes near
I wanna never let her go
Confess to her what my heart
knows, hold her close

Why don't you kiss her
Why don't you tell her
Why don't you let her see the feelings that you hide
She'll never know
If you never show
The way you feel inside

What would she say
I wonder would she just turn away
or would she promise me
that she's here to stay
It hurts me to wait
I keep asking myself

Why Don't you kiss her (tell her you love her)
Why Don't You tell her (tell her you need her)
Why don't you let her see
The Feelings that you hide
Cause she'll never know
If you never show
The way you feel inside

omg! i luv that song! it totally relates to D/J!!! i have that cd and i listen to it all the time and i've never really noticed that it matches their relationship perfectly. Thx for starting another thread!
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Amazing song Kates. It fits perfectly with DJ.
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Mornin Kissin In the Rain and Cris
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Mornin Kissin In the Rain and Cris
It's really fun to read that cause for me it's 1.13 am, I should be in my bed
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Morning Deb! Well, for me it is night! Here it's 8:13 pm!
Well, we are all over the world!
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It's 9am here - it's always weird when you stop to think about how we're all across the globe
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Great new thread title, Britney

I that scene at the airport. The airport scenes with D/J in season 5 were definitely my fave part of the whole season. That, and Chad Michael Murray
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