Honesty? That 4th season was god-awful. That crossover event made no sense and they didn't even incorporate it with the show. I hated Jack after he killed his own grandson and broke his daughter. I think Gwen was the way she was because on some level, she was in love with Jack. I like JB better as Malcolm Merlyn because Jack was tortured and wanted to be seen as the good guy,even when he screwed up. Malcolm did not give a and he was who he was. Unless they come up with new characters that aren't annoying as hell and a rip-off of Gwen and Jack, I won't watch season 5. For me,it all ended having Toshiko and Owen died.