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Sorry for not replying sooner but I didn't feel like posting much last night & went to bed early. I had a major headache.
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Its okay, i hope you feel better.
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I admit I haven't watched full episodes of Buffy in years. So I can only go by my memory & Spuffy fanvids.  |
Nothing wrong with that since the Spuffy fanvideos are a work of art.
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I've always seen some fans mostly haters say we got Spike's POV but not enough of Buffy's POV.
So I guess that's where thinking we did get Spike's POV really came from honestly.
I think it's most important that Joss didn't sweep it under the rug & made it clear what Spike did was wrong.
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Hm, i need to look this up but i cant really see how we have seen Spikes Pov in any of this really.
Yeah it was not sweeped under the rug but that is why i would have liked to see Spikes POV especially after the soul.
It sounds mean probably but i would have liked to see the soul causing him more pain to really show how wrong it was what he tried to do.
You have him as demon run away to get the soul so it would have been helpfull to get more insight on how exactly the soul is punishing him and how strong he felt he deserved the pain.
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He earned Buffy's forgiveness. It's not like Buffy didn't bring it up either. She did in BY & Him. The show could have dealt with it more but it was enough for me.
Well unlike shows today have actual rape & other terrible things happen all the time but pretend they didn't & the couple get together.
I wouldn't still be able to ship Spuffy ever again if Spike had raped Buffy though.
I can understand being able to get over the trauma of someone almost raping you to be with them but seeing as I've never been in the situation to really know though. That's just where I stand on the issue.
I do believe a man can have a clean slate with another woman & find redemption though in this way.
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Which makes Buffy in turn one of the strongest characters.
That she still took it onto her to Help Spike, that she saw more in him and was ready to accept him in her life...it takes a incredible amount of strength.
I absolutly despise it when Rape gets used in any kind of entertainment...its a awful thing and shouldnt be used for narrative or character purpose.
So im absolutly sure i wouldnt be here if they would have gone through with it in Buffy.
I would absolutly despise Spike even with the Soul so im glad that they didnt go through with it fully.
Seeing Red is a episode i cant stomach often and i will never excuse Spike on this.
There was only the soul that could have saved him for me, either getting the soul or die trying.
I wouldnt have accepted anything less.
There are still days where me being a Spuffy shipper is not easy because of Seeing Red and the fact that the show imo didnt do enough to work through the situation afterwards.
We have now all the insight on it but i can only imagine how bad it must have been for Spuffy shippers back in the day.
Even after all this years its a rough topic and therefore i can understand people who simply cant ship them.
I do because i see the context the how, why and so on.
It is something that never should be excused or swept under the rug...its something that always will be with the characters...thankfully season 10 dealt with it in manner that helps.
Whenever people go on their rant against Spuffy and the topic, i throw season 10 at them because those comics did a ton of good stuff for Spuffy.
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I like the idea of Spike being turned wrong.
Joss just says Spike is unique.
I think in one my earlier posts I explained why Spike couldn't have a healthy relationship with Buffy without his soul. Spike could love but it just couldn't always be in a selfless way. Buffy was lost & So was Spike b/c he let her guide him about what was right or wrong mostly. Like a soul would actually.
I think Spike's demon loved Buffy in the selfish way & he had it still there all the time without any kind of restraint except the chip before he won his soul back or knowing this is wrong b/c it would hurt Buffy or she wouldn't approve of this or that. Then at the same time he has his humanity that is trying to fight the Demon in him b/c h wants to be a good man again for Buffy & himself.
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Saying Spike is simply unique is a good direction too.
It adds to the possibility that he and Buffy were meant to be and gives Spike even more character.
Its a interesting topic when it comes to Spike with or without a soul.
I think he and Buffy could work without him having a soul...when it is well written.
When his Love is so to speak the compensation for his soul.
Its why a huge part of me would have loved to see season 6 continue with how they built up their relationship since the end of season 5.
Could have been cool to focus on Spikes struggle with his demon, his love for Buffy, his growing understanding that love as he knew was wrong.
That would have been interesting and ended with him leaving to get his soul because despite his understanding and so on, he realizes that he wants to be more because he liked what he became when his humanity won the struggle.
You could have done it like this without Seeing Red and the attempted Rape.