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That's how I feel too. LOL
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No. He has the same type of ego I have. We show our ego when we know 10000 % that we are right and someone disregards our opinion. For example there is in area in our work that my boss and I do not have experience with. I am not saying that it's difficult or impossible to understand. I just find it boring to be honest so I do not want to deal with.
We had a co-worker that had enough experience in this. He was my age and he wanted to become Senior. The jerk refused to make him Senior. He questioned the guy's expertise and told him that his job is nothing spectacular and we have separate team that can do it (they can't actually but details). He told the guy that he did not support the co-workers enough and the jerk could not have idea about this because first he was not with us on the same floor, second he does not understand this area at all, third he has no idea who is working on what. The guy got pissed and left the company.
They hired three people to fill in this spot and two of them are just not good. M has experience in this area and he told them that they are not just good or efficient. M has commented in the past that there are things in this area that are not done well in my project and the boss gets defensive which is so funny considering that the boss had not even worked on this and he does not understand it anyway. Last time the boss tried to act this way I simply interjected myself in the conversation and basically supported M's claim. There are indeed things there that are just not done the right way. And I have no issues admitting this.
On the other hand this task I mentioned back in 2009 is the foundation of something in my project that most people do not understand. I do not find it complex but man most people complain that it is. The former female co-worker, M and a new co-worker we hired this year are the only ones that had not complained about this which for me is a test on how smart the people are . Anyway as my boss does not get this he always criticizes this solution. I have told him that it is not perfect and it has issues, but it was the better option compared to what we would have. He of course takes this as me not accepting criticism. I take this as him being lazy to understand stuff and then blame the stuff (he does the same with English and refuses to learn it).
Stuff like that piss off both me and M. I would never question people expertise in something I completely know that I do not understand. It is absurd. I would never tell someone that they are not contribute enough if I have no idea what they are working on. I would never be aggressive in arguing with someone over something I do not know. I could ask questions but I would be quite careful how I ask them.
The thing is that just few months after this we started working with the French exactly in this area. This guy that left the company knew enough and has great English skills. He would have helped fighting with the French and the jerk and the boss completely ruined our chances there just because they could not surpass their ego and make him Senior. In this regard however even the HR is on their back and tells them that they have unrealistic requirements.
The boss has even claimed that this area is not difficult and it's not even programming and everyone can do it. Mm if everyone can do it why he does not start doing it? Once this guy left the company and the former female company left as well, the boss wanted me to start working on this. I told him that this won't happen. I have no interest there and I do not plan to dig into deep there. Especially not because he was a stupid jerk and let the other jerk mistreated the person that knew. I did read the stuff so that I could have general idea what is going on, but I do not plan to change my area of work just because the boss can't make correct decisions.
The boss put M in the joined French team because the female co-worker left the team. M specifically told him that he does not want to go there. The boss did not care as he had no one else to put there. He did not want to put O because well he defends O and knows that working in this joined team is bad. He however had no issues throwing me or M under the bus and put us there. He even wanted me to work there on 100 %. I told him three times that I do not want to work there 100 % and he ignored my decision. So I went to my German boss told him that if I am put 100 % there I will leave the company. He talked to the guy from Austria that is responsible for our tasks planning and explained to him the situation. The guy obviously likes me enough because he not just agreed with my German boss, but he always gives me tasks so that I can't work 100 % on that project.
And M left the team directly without consulting our boss. So if you are talking about this both of us have ego. Both of us question authority that we find incompetent. Both of us see inefficiency from a mile away and we do not excuse it. So yeah we could be real pleasure to work with, let alone if someone wants to control us . We could make the job of a boss that we do not respect quite difficult. We do not care about someone's title. We judge people by their actions. You are either competent or not. You either make correct decisions or not. You either appreciate your people or not. You either argue only when you are correct or you argue for the sport and show incompetence. In this regard we are black and white.
And I do know that some people might get annoyed at such behavior but I do not care. I would not compensate for someone else mistakes. I compensate for my own. If the boss had realized his mistake and had been honest with me asking for help I could have understood his point of view, but not like this.
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Got it. I see what you mean.
Honestly, I typically have zero ego (only inside my mind, I never share it with others) yet if I had to work with your boss and the jerk I would certainly be testing that lack of ego... it might just be coming out of hiding.
I just thought of something... if your boss is so big on outside interaction between coworkers and building chemistry with the team both in and out of the office.... yet doesn't he have a problem with the jerk who is so unlikable at times that people call him out for sucking and/or literally leaving/quitting because they cannot stand to work with him? So your boss just makes an exception for the jerk and how he drives people away because he seems to not have a caring bone in his body?
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I am betting on the second. Nevertheless her action on the outside could be interpreted in only way and that way is lack of competence. I do not care what her real motives are. I mean I do understand them but it does not matter for me. She is there to be professional not a friend to the jerk. They do not pay her to make biased decisions based on friendships.
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It would almost be better if she lacked intelligence and somehow slipped through the cracks receiving a nice job even though she's not qualified versus the second option which is playing dumb to cover up for the jerk since it crosses lines and is disgusting.
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M told them right away that aside the fact that people get stressed by this, he finds simply such behavior is unprofessional and unacceptable and the HR felt forced to agree with him. That was fun . M is the one of the few brave persons that could tell the jerk that he is unprofessional in his face. I am the other one that have done this in the past though I questioned his knowledge about my project and basically told him that he does not know it so it's better to not argue with the Germans for stuff he does not know.
The HR definitely believe that they can. She tried the same fakeness with that guy that left I was talking above. I have never liked her to be honest. I sensed her front facade persona right away. However I realized that instead of going directly against her it's better to use this behavior for my own agenda. She might be fake, but she is not that stupid. She just pretends to not get some stuff. So I say the stuff, she pretends to not understand them, but she does and in the end I get what I want and I can't be even reprimanded for bad behavior because I was nice and diplomatic  .
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Just gross on every level. I am shocked they actually wanted to get rid of M because this disgusting trio understands they are not playing a clean game. I guess they might have been ridiculous in thinking M doesn't realize they have a cult. They know you understand their cult though so when you got involved they had no other choice but to keep M. I am sure they realize now M understands how they tick.