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dg31 · 01-19-2014, 09:30 PM

Not my words but from someone who wanted to contribute but does not have an account on this site.

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Why S&C is AU to iCarly.
There is a mountain of evidence that points to the fact that Sam & Cat is AU to iCarly and Victorious but I'll limit it to just iCarly since that is the relevant point when it comes to Creddie:

1. Sam and Cat do not recognize one another when they meet in Pilot other than Cat recognizing her from the web show. It blatantly ignores iParty with Victorious, an iCarly episode no matter how well Dan tries to twist the truth in trying to claim it happened with some nonsense that they didn't talk or interact.

2. In Killer Tuna Jump, none of the guest stars recognise one another from iParty with Victorious when there has been several instances after the episode where they've kept in contact after the party so the 'oh they didn't interact after the credits roll excuse': Carly listened to Jade & Cat's duet from Freak the Freak Out, Jade uses Spencer's private zombie footage from iGet Pranky to try to sabotage her school's prom (Spencer had to send that to her), Freddie appeared in the Victorious episode 'Who Did it to Trina?' to watch Tori's directorial debut and yet no one recognized him or he recognized them in Killer Tuna Jump (TheSlap confirmed it was him and not just some random guy that looked like Freddie). S&C has to ignore those episodes of iCarly and Victorious since it can't retcon away things from the previous series then S&C has to be AU where those things didn't take place.

3. Sam is 16 and still in school in Sam & Cat while in iCarly she is 19 and has to have graduated.

Other shows may have inconsistency about the passage of time, but iCarly surprisingly doesn't with some key episodes giving us a fairly good idea about when stuff is happening. One can simply start with iStill Psycho in which Carly clearly states they have already gone to their junior prom then you have as a plot point in iOMG they are working on their final projects to wrap up the school year. At that point, Freddie and Sam are 17 while Carly is 16. You fast forward to iHalfoween and they give a definitive date to when the episode takes place within a margin of error of a week of the end of April which has to be their senior year at that point. At that time Sam is eighteen as it is past Dan's approved date for Sam's birthdate and they have to be just weeks away from graduating. iGoodbye ends with Freddie and Sam as 18 and Carly as 17.

You look at Sam & Cat and they have repeated incidences hammering home the fact that she's a minor on S&C: it was the underlining premise for GoatSitting where they can't live there alone if they are minors. Babysitting Commercial states that she's not an adult. In MagicATM when they were arrested, they were going to go to juvie. In MyPooper it not only states that she's a minor but clearly show on Sam's juvie record that she is currently 16.

Sam cannot both be 16 and 19 years old at the same time and since S&C can't retcon anything in iCarly, the show has to be taking place in another universe to resolve these discrepancies.

4. The fact that Seddie actually happened in both shows.

In iCarly, Seddie took place while they both were 17 years old since it happened after their junior prom when Sam's birthday is either April 11 by the show or April 17 from the website and she's only 16 now in S&C. Seddie had to have happened at least two years ago at this point of S&C since Cat has mentioned two Victorious episodes taking place a year (Tori Goes Plantium) and more than a year ago (The Blonde Squad) which each was a year after Seddie broke up. So for Sam, Seddie had to take place when they were both 14 which puts them somewhere between 'iChristmas' and 'iMake Sam Girlier' for it to have taken place, which it couldn't.