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Old 02-15-2013, 11:56 PM
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Inesal
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Originally Posted by JustMe2000 (View Post)
Maya, Dallas, Alli, Zig, Tristan, maybe one or two others I'm forgetting right now. I think this episode did a really good job of showing how those characters all had some "if I had just done that instead of this" moments that should haunt them if we think happens does end up happening. And with the possible exception of Zig (and Cam gave as good as he got there), none of the stuff those characters was over the top or out of character. Nicely done, Degrassi, nicely done.
I am glad you brought up Tristan. Tristan, upset over Zig's repugnant treatment of Tori, ended up provoking Cam when he meant to bad talk Zig.

Cam didn't give as good as he got. Not even close. Zig attacked Cam's identity. It is the equivalent of two people getting in an argument and one calling the other, a closeted youth, the "f" word and pointing out how his family will turn their back on him. It is the equivalent of two people getting in an argument with one bringing up how the other was adopted because his biological parents did not want him. I am bringing up two situations I saw in high school which are in the same area of what Zig did.

To attack a person who has mental issues, a person who knows he has mental issues (including possibly clinical depression), and call them a psycho whose girlfriend will leave him once she figures it out steps over the boundaries into attacking the identity of the other individual. The only defense I will slightly give Zig on this is his immaturity.

I watched with several female friends tonight. All of us found Zig's comments to be among the most horrific ever spouted on television. They came from the darkest, most hateful place possible. Now Cam is a 9er and it is likely that if he does something stupid he will be okay. But reality is, and this is not hyperbole, saying something like that is the kind of thing that leads to people hurting or even killing themselves. Sounds silly maybe but it isn't. Again Zig is immature but this is not an offsetting thing. This is one person doing something wrong and another person, in retaliation, crossing into a place of staggering inhumanity. That is not hyperbole. It is also not uncommon.

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Originally Posted by semmanclana (View Post)
All you have done is ignore Cam starting BOTH times.
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Originally Posted by semmanclana (View Post)
So maybe whats troublesome is you ignoring Cam's actions throughout this episode.
Please don't say I did things I did not do. These are from my first post.

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Cam though is wrong to get violent against the utterely repellent Zig.
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Cam starts it but what he says is understandable.
If you want to reply to me and debate points - cool. If you want to reply to me and make up me doing things - not so much.

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