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Outlaws {Sawyer & Kate} #101 ~ You're so much more than a memory...
Welcome to the 101st Sawyer & Kate Appreciation Thread  O U T L A W S: 1. Deiaa 2. L i N d $ @ y 3. Hawthorn 4. Laurababora 5. AC_love 6. 4brathan&brucas 7. electricpeppers 8. becky43078 9. Sark and Draco Lover 10. blueschild007 11. Lazy 12. _gloria 13. StubbornWhite 14. Titch22 15. CryOMystic 16. xxxninaxxx 17. allybubba 18. starryeyed15 19. Forever&Always 20. Soeshie20 21. ~Amarula~ 22. Kelly_Dylan 23. SkateGirl88 24. IceKat055 25. chemistry86 26. bickering love 27. hot fuss 28. njbrc 29. Freckles87 30. {christie} 31. spotlight 32. SharTheLove 33. blazing star 34. alysummers 35. TulieMajulie7 36. LucyHyde 37. Satine Lilly 38. _xGemmax_ 39. Sierra_H 40. ~*¤Amelia¤*~ 41. Little_Grey 42. Niahm 43. loveisrubyred 44. purplestuff48 45. NBalways 46. tatibsblp 47. samy10 48. vlc460 49. WalaBridget 50. xkellyx 51. ~AIR~ 52. naturellebella 53. fides10 54. the_aprilpie 55. Crystaline 56. *CopperBoom* 57. buffy4ever 58. shattered jewels 59. skater_souny 60. timtyra 61. KateFGMP 62. miss_salvatore 63. just 64. Nymph Marty 65. Scheming Star 66. scary_bunny 67. redrose13 68. Liz01 69. padfootsprincess02 70. obsessed_aussie 71. Karma Police 72. manja 73. *Nette* 74. true colours 75. shipperFan* 76. mary ksand 77. Random.Attention 78. Lelly 79. SaraSidleStokes 80. JRBudgrl8 81. MaryS-NJ 82. Aurelia 83. roadtime 84. madamex 85. Moonray13 86. `toomuchpurple 87. FumblingTowardsEcstasy 88. callie1327 89. the 4th Lorelai 90. I've Loved You Since 12 91. klyn77 92. -Ida-o- 93. Slayerette89 94. iNevergirl 95. 'toomuchpurple
The S t o r y  From the moment he called her “sweetheart” for the first time, it was clear that James Ford and Kate Austen had something. He had been with girls like her, he told her. But not girls exactly like her, she responded. And thus began the amazing, frustrating, rocky, enthralling relationship between the two outcasts. In the fugitive’s mind, she should be a good woman, and in order to be a good woman, she needed a good man. And a good man wasn't a conman like Sawyer. But as the days passed, her heart would not allow her to stray away from him. As their time on the island progressed,they shared everything together, from the most passionate kisses, to their deepest, darkest secrets. It hasn’t always been easy, but the best love stories never are. Their relationship is something real, something that is a true joy to watch. When they crashed on the island, they were strangers, whose one similarity was that they were lost. Or.. at least that's what it seemed like at first glance. Behind all of their fronts, and lies.. they really aren't all that different when it comes down to it. They both happened to be deported back to the US on the same flight, that same day. But when they found each other, they found themselves. Sawyer loves her unconditionally, and he will always love her, matter what her past looks like and no matter what her future holds. Kate sees right through Sawyer’s tough exterior, she always has, but she also sees into James’s heart, which beats only for her. She makes him a better person, and he gives her a reason to believe again. Their salvation lies in each other’s love.  "I can see through you, see to the real you." Those words sum up Skate perfectly. They didn't have to pretend to be someone they aren't, they didn't need to to run away, they felt comfortable around each other. They didn't hide, they weren't afraid to show their true nature because they knew they would be accepted and loved. They were drawn to each other from the beginning. Kate saw Sawyer's real nature from the start, Kate could never fool Sawyer. Their relationship was about trust and mutual respect. Sawyer never judged Kate, never wanted her to change and Kate never felt like she needed to change, for the first time in her life she felt loved for who she was. They were on the run their entire life, when they met, they found comfort in each other and it felt like home. ~ Karma Police Sawyer and Kate, two outlaws with an epic journey. They met in a island and there they survived, they helped each other, they fought, they laughed, they felt in love.Tragically they didn't end up togeter,but the feelings will always be there and their story won't be forgotten. "It's not about the destination, It's about the journey" ~ SkateGirl88
It's about the journey, not the destination specially is the destination is death.Skate got to leave the island and survive , to live a long happy life.It's ridiculous to think nothing is gonna happen between now, they will give each other a clean slate, they can't deny their feeling for the other.Skate got an spectacular journey during 6 season of the show and I love every minute of it. Thank you Evi and Josh for those amazing scenes, you guys chemistry is one of kind. ~ tatibsblp Sawyer and Kate were the little spitfire of LOST. Definetely. They got the whole package since day one; the chemistry, the up's and downs, the push and pull they kept during for most part of the show, the first sexual tension, the first i love you, the first love making and for God sakes: A SOUNDTRACK THEME. It was enticing to see them, it broke the cliche story we get every single day 'badgirl/boy with goodgirl/boy'. They were both outsiders, not fitting in any place.. cause they later found out the only place they could definetely fit in was with each other, without the conning without the running they could definetely bethemselves with each other, there was no need to be better or live up to anything, cause they were the same, flaws and all. ~ timtyra
 J O S H & E V I 'I told Josh, "There is going to be a tongue in this kiss", and he said, "Fine by me!"' - Evangeline Lilly "I did as many takes on the kiss scene as I could! Evi and I talked about it. I asked: "Do you want to do the Hollywood kiss or do you want to do a real kiss?" She was like: "I think we should do a real kiss" - Josh Holloway "The sexiest thing about Josh is his dimples. He's just got such a beautiful, genuine smile — it shines from inside out. Because he plays a bad boy on the show, people assume that's how he really is. But Josh is the warmest-hearted guy and he's so chivalrous. He will always carry a bag for a girl or open the door for her, and it's a really, really attractive quality. In so many ways he's a good, old-fashioned Southern man. I think that Sawyer has a very big and vulnerable heart, and I think Josh does, too." - Evangeline Lilly "Evi is truly amazing. She’s so giving as a person and actress and a pleasure to work with." - Josh Holloway "He’s the sweetest, most tender-hearted guy – and he’s sexy!" - Evangeline Lilly "Apart from being a pretty girl with a hot bod, what makes Evi sexy is her willingness to play. I like a girl who's unafraid to get dirty and throw herself into the physical aspect of what we do. Evi's willing to be a little warrior, and I appreciate that. Yet she maintains her femininity. She's a tomboy, and that's sexy. Climbing out of those freaking cages and jumping down with no rope, no nothin' - she did it every single time, probably ten times. She got huge bruises. I'm protective of her because as our friendship has grown, I've seen that she does crazy s---. Stuff that a stuntperson should do. I'm like a scolding mother to her now. I'm like, 'Hey! That's enough of that! Let someone else do it.'" - Josh Holloway P R E V I O U S#1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 #9 #10 #11 #12 #13 #14 #15 #16 #17 #18 #19 #20 #21 #22 #23 #24 #25 #26 #27 #28 #29 #30 #31 #32 #33 #34 #35 #36 #37 #38 #39 #40 #41 #42 #43 #44 #45 #46 #47 #48 #49 #49.1 #50 #52 #53 #54 #55 #56 #57 #58 #59 #60 #61 #62 #63 #64 #65 #66 #67 #68 #69 #70 #71 #72 #73 #74 #75 #76 #77 #78 #79 #80 #81 #82 #83 #84 #85 #86 #87 #88 #89 #90 #91 #92 #93 #94 #95 #96 #97 #98 #99
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She was always her real self with Sawyer. Moments like 'I Never'; pulling a gun on the Others & going back-to-back with Sawyer, opening fire; scaling the bars of her cage and smashing Sawyer's cage open with a rock; snatching the gun and threatening to blow Jason's leg off; swan-diving into the ocean to escape the Island; those sorts of moments were Kate. Her other 'Monica' moments were disgusting, but fortunately, her scenes with Sawyer dominated her story. Well, at least until she was dead & rotting, that is. And even then, she couldn't stop flirting with him through cage bars.  __________________
Up and up and up he’d borne her, high above the pyramids and pits, his wings outstretched to catch the warm air rising from the city’s sun baked bricks. ‘If I fall and die, it will still have been worth it,’ she had thought. Last edited by IceKat055; 09-14-2011 at 06:23 AM |
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The thing is that I think Kate had a potential to be one of the most well developed characters ever on television hadn't her so called ~ romance with Jack happened. She was an outlaw, a murderer. She made a horrible, awfull mistake and boom, she was on the island with so many people some of which made mistakes worse than her. And she helped those people when they where in trouble though they would never do this for her; she was there for them though they wouldn't be there for her; and finally, she met Sawyer whom she cared about figuring out and understanding - she didn't have any idea why at that point - and that's why she read his letter again and again to finally understand it was a letter to himself. That's why Sawyer wanted to figure her out too and it was on a level of instinct that they opened up to each other, dropped the masks they where wearing to hide their true selves, problems and feelings from other people, long before they became each other's romantic interests (that's why we had to wait for THREE entire seasons before their first sex scene happened. Kinda loads of build up for a couple that is "just about sex" don't you think?
 ). But then what do we see? This girl who would never EVER do something she doesn't want to do, because she had no problem with getting what she wanted (and if she wanted Jack, she would come and have him in every sense of that word and would be all "Sawyer who?" for the most part of her time on island) - this girl was actually supposed to be "using" Sawyer while wanting Jack? Give me a break. That awfull scene was awfull and almost put me off Skate shipping, but then I remembered everything that happened before that and laughed at it very hard, because looking back we had absolutelly NO indication of Kate's ~ deep feelings for Jack, other than her sharing with him few scenes that she as well shared with Kate, Sayid and other Losties (perhaps, she was in love with them too?) and a kiss that she RAN AWAY FROM. That's why this character insult that Jate and everything about it was I blamed on writers and not on Kate.__________________
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She was very judgy in season 1 and 2 though. She was strong and independent - when she wasn't around Jack - but she was also very judgemental imo.
But the truth is that a lot of female characters had potential on Lost but the writing just went downhill. Each woman was degraded to being a love interest at some point. __________________
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I actually didn't view it as being judgemental, I could respect the fact that despite having issues she also had morals that she tried to stick to. Idk, of course it's just my personal opinion
 Claire had so much potential but it was never explored after a certain point. Same with Ana Lucia. __________________
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Okay just adding myself to this, since Skate are the first couple who ever broke my shipping heart. I gave up on Lost tbh, but still couldn't bear not to know, so watched through my fingers as it hurtled towards disaster and still, still, even with Juliet and his whatever that was, when Kate came back they were just...and I hated the writers. Oh man I'm gonna go on a rant.
I may be sexist, but I don't care, we need more female writers in TV land. Because men suck at it. Romance that is. Skate was the only fully fleshed relationship Kate had on that show, yet they had her end up with Jack in heaven? Why? WTF? He was the broken one incapable of loving others, yet the writers made him the freakin' be all and end all and it was so bad. He would have been heroic if he hadn't actually ruined other people on his way to it. That's not heroism. Character development in TV right now sucks, and for me it started with Skate. Did they think it was cliche? Whatever. To me, Skate were the best thing about Lost. Oh them and Charlie.  Sorry if not coherent lol, my Skate bitterness swelled up and spilled out unintelligibly. Initial rage over now, I'll lurk.  |
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts
I completelly agree with everything you said. The thing is that Skate had everything from start to finish and it was more than we could wish for a couple to have. Writers tried to cheapen their love, but it never worked because they where two people that wher willing to die for each other = purest form of love ever. Periode. I think Jack could love, but when it came to Kate, I think he was more obsessed with the idea of her, he only saw what she was on the surface and everything else about her he just didn't know, or didn't like or didn't even try to understand and nor did she ever try to open up to him about anything. The heaven thing was just... *sigh*... well, lets say, the whole final and sideways being a purtagory set in Jack's wet dead dream was a major fail and Skate happened to be a part of it. Kate happened to be a part of it and Sawyer happened to be a part of it. It was everything Jack couldn't get in real life, respect and trust from other people and loyalty from Kate. And so he got it in last 5 minutes of a WTF final. Charlie was an amazing character with so much potential and I think when writers killed him off it was obvious that writers where gonna go for easy ways of writing by throwing random "gotcha!" moments on us instead of real character developement. And feel free to rant anytime you want __________________
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Hey!!
Yeah. That ending. Sorry but what a cop out fest that was. In my head, and heart, Lost ended with Kate and Sawyer on that plane.  To me, Jacks character was diminished a lot, and whilst I didn't want him to have Kate, I wanted him to get something more than what they gave him. He reminded me of people I know, whose hard times become the thing that define them, and they never fully let that stuff go in order to live in the now. Too busy trying to live like you think you are supposed to, rather than how your heart tells you. If that makes sense? Sawyer and Kate's experiences did the opposite in many ways (till stuff went wrong) they learnt to grasp happy and to see them accept each other wholly was wonderful to me. Kate was a square peg shoved into a round hole in Jacks life, with Sawyer, they were puzzle pieces that snapped into place. oh Skate. I do miss you!! |
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Sawyer & Kate chose to fight for life. They decided to get the hell off the Island, and they did - - together - - just as Sawyer promised her. Where their lives took them from there is anyone's guess, but I have a feeling that they remained incredibly close (in all ways possible!  ) and important to each other, for the rest of their lives.Then, they died. And got their ZOMG!YAYZ!!! "ultimate reward"...they were allowed to fart rainbows in Jack's shiny light. Cue the s.__________________
Up and up and up he’d borne her, high above the pyramids and pits, his wings outstretched to catch the warm air rising from the city’s sun baked bricks. ‘If I fall and die, it will still have been worth it,’ she had thought. |
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Your description is great! The biggest issue with Jack was the fact that he could have been an awesome character: troubled, lost in every kind of way person who was forced to lead the group of people though it was him who needed to be shown the light because he was so messed up. I found it very interesting SL for him to explore. But quite soon it became obvious that writers where not gonna solve Jack's issues and work at his character properly, they where gonna make it look as if he has no issues AT ALL and is the most perfect human being ever who is supposed to be always right even when he would torture someone to get something because he thinks he has a right to. And finally, instead of actually making Jack to get to know all those people and become close to them they made Jack show a complete apathy and disrespect to everyone's feelings and thoughts and those people basically did everything on their own without turning their heads in the side of their so-called leader.
Like you said, with Skate it was like all the pieces fell into place. Despite them both being damaged and troubled people they found a way to complete each other and make the life of one another better for such a short periode of time. This is everything I could ask for a couple. And even if Sawyer had died jumping out of the helicopter their story would have still been epic. __________________
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Everything beyond that got ...well. I shall not splatter this board with my venom on that matter. Hell yeah they got to spend life together. IMO. Even the writers couldn't mess that up, or deny that these two would fight to survive, it was who they were. And you know, life's what I focus on, not maybes after it, so the fact they made it out together, in my world, gives me their happy ending. Endings after endings make no sense. Life doesn't get a PS. Much as it would be awesome. IMO of-course. |
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It sounds scary. 
