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Outlaws {Sawyer & Kate} #101 ~ You're so much more than a memory...

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K a t e Austen
Kate Austen was born to run. When Oceanic Flight 815 crashed on September 22nd, 2004,
a pair of handcuffs was found washed up in the debris. A few hours earlier, they were fastened
around Kate’s wrists, as she sat next to the U.S. Marshall on the plane. What was her crime?
She blew up her stepfather. She has gone through almost her entire life both running and
lying, and as the Marshall told her before she got on the plane; she has "no attachments." Nobody
to care about, or at least nobody to care enough about to stay in one place. It’s arguable that
the crash is the best thing that happened to Kate. She got a chance to start over. It was revealed
that she’s actually a strong-willed, independent, kick-ass woman who knows how to handle
a gun and beat up the bad guys better than almost anybody on the entire island. And yet at
the same time, she has a softer side, a vulnerable side that she only shows in certain situations,
around certain people, one person in particular. When she crashed on the island, she finally
had a home. And in that home, she found love, acceptance, and a reason to stand still. On
December 24th, 2004, Kate and five other islanders were rescued. At home she has come to
the realization that she has only Aaron. Off island, she has become the liar she once was. She yet
again put on a mask, a charade to make people believe she was someone other than who she
truly was. But Kate can only “pretend” for so long.


J a m e s Ford
aka Sawyer.

James “Sawyer” Ford went through his life seeking revenge for a conman who ruined his
life, and in the process, he became a conman himself. “I became the man I was hunting.” He never
cared about anything except money. His life has been full of meaningless flings with all kinds
of different women, all for the common goal of gaining their husbands’ money. The only thing
that ever seemed to have meaning to him was a single letter that he wrote as a boy to the man he
was determined to kill. When flight 815 crashed, he was being deported back to the states from
Australia. He became the enemy among the fellow islanders, the “bad guy,” the “troublemaker,”
the “jackass.” There was only one person on the island, a fellow outcast, who he ever listened
to, who he ever did anything for, who he ever opened up to. His connection with her transformed
him, brought out who he truly was in the inside, showed what he was really made of. Despite his
attempts to get people to hate him because he felt like he deserved it, and even though he retaliated
with comments like “I ain’t no hero,” he is indeed the saviour of all those left on the island. At the
beginning he was called a parasite, “always taking, never giving.” Three months later, he was
jumping off a helicopter, ruining his chance at getting off the island, not to mention risking his life,
all to save the woman he loved. He’s a scoundrel and a hero, a fighter and a lover. And we know
that the love that transformed him will one day return to him, and he will be whole again.


The S t o r y


From the moment he called her “sweetheart” for the first time,
it was clear that James Ford and Kate Austen had something.
He had been with girls like her, he told her. But not girls exactly like her,
she responded. And thus began the amazing, frustrating, rocky,
enthralling relationship between the two outcasts.
In the fugitive’s mind, she should be a good woman,
and in order to be a good woman, she needed a good man.
And a good man wasn't a conman like Sawyer.
But as the days passed, her heart would not allow her to stray away from him.
As their time on the island progressed,they shared everything together,
from the most passionate kisses, to their deepest, darkest secrets.
It hasn’t always been easy, but the best love stories never are.
Their relationship is something real, something that is a true joy to watch.

When they crashed on the island, they were strangers,
whose one similarity was that they were lost.
Or.. at least that's what it seemed like at first glance.
Behind all of their fronts, and lies..
they really aren't all that different when it comes down to it.
They both happened to be deported back to the US on the same flight, that same day.
But when they found each other, they found themselves.

Sawyer loves her unconditionally, and he will always love her,
matter what her past looks like and no matter what her future holds.
Kate sees right through Sawyer’s tough exterior, she always has,
but she also sees into James’s heart, which beats only for her.
She makes him a better person, and he gives her a reason to
believe again. Their salvation lies in each other’s love.




"I can see through you, see to the real you."
Those words sum up Skate perfectly. They didn't have to pretend
to be someone they aren't, they didn't need to to run away,
they felt comfortable around each other. They didn't hide,
they weren't afraid to show their true nature because
they knew they would be accepted and loved. They were drawn
to each other from the beginning. Kate saw Sawyer's real nature
from the start, Kate could never fool Sawyer. Their relationship was
about trust and mutual respect. Sawyer never judged Kate,
never wanted her to change and Kate never felt like she
needed to change, for the first time in her life she felt loved
for who she was. They were on the run their entire life,
when they met, they found comfort in each other and it felt like home.
~ Karma Police



Sawyer and Kate, two outlaws with an epic journey.
They met in a island and there they survived, they helped each other,
they fought, they laughed, they felt in love.Tragically they
didn't end up togeter,but the feelings will always be there and
their story won't be forgotten.
"It's not about the destination, It's about the journey"
~ SkateGirl88






It's about the journey, not the destination specially
is the destination is death.Skate got to leave the island and survive
, to live a long happy life.It's ridiculous to think nothing is gonna happen
between now, they will give each other a clean slate,
they can't deny their feeling for the other.Skate got an spectacular
journey during 6 season of the show and I love every minute of it.
Thank you Evi and Josh for those amazing scenes,
you guys chemistry is one of kind.
~ tatibsblp



Sawyer and Kate were the little spitfire of LOST.
Definetely. They got the whole package since day one; the chemistry,
the up's and downs, the push and pull they kept during for most part of the
show, the first sexual tension, the first i love you, the first love making
and for God sakes: A SOUNDTRACK THEME. It was enticing to see them,
it broke the cliche story we get every single day 'badgirl/boy
with goodgirl/boy'. They were both outsiders, not fitting in any place..
cause they later found out the only place they could definetely
fit in was with each other, without the conning without the running
they could definetely bethemselves with each other, there was
no need to be better or live up to anything, cause they
were the same, flaws and all.
~ timtyra



F A N F I C T I O N
In Hiding
On The Road
The Dreams of Tortured Souls
Collapse
Ink
Sawyer's A Romantic
Children Of The Hatch
Redneck Sushi
What Jack Could Never Do
Musings
Heat
The Way Home
Highgrove
Obsessions and Fantasies
All Ya Gotta Do Is Ask
Reasons To Be Missed




A W A R D S
US Weekly TV Sexiest Couple
TV Guide 2005 Best TV Kiss #6
Tater Top 2005 Best Kiss
TV Guide 2006 Skate Cover
TV Guide 2006 Skate photoshoot
Tater Top 2006 Best Chemistry
Best On Screen Pairings by Phil Parker
TV Guide Big Moment 2006
TV Guide Sexiest Couples 2006
Skate sex at #8 of the Top TV Moments of 2006 According to TiVo
DarkUFO's LOST S3 Awards - Favourite Couple Winners
Unforgettable First Kisses by Globo.com
Tater Top 2007: Best Chemistry - Best Kiss - Best Show of Skin
Nicest couples on present TV by Globo.com
TV Gal's TV's Best Kisses - Skate kiss places in at #5
Great Skate vs. Jate Debate
TV’s steamiest love scenes
TV's 10 Hottest Scenes Ever - Skate sex places in at #2





J O S H & E V I

'I told Josh, "There is going to be a tongue in this kiss", and he said, "Fine by me!"'
- Evangeline Lilly

"I did as many takes on the kiss scene as I could! Evi and I talked about it.
I asked: "Do you want to do the Hollywood kiss or do you want to do a real kiss?"
She was like: "I think we should do a real kiss"
- Josh Holloway

"The sexiest thing about Josh is his dimples. He's just got such a beautiful,
genuine smile — it shines from inside out. Because he plays a bad boy on the
show, people assume that's how he really is. But Josh is the warmest-hearted guy and he's so chivalrous. He will always carry a bag for a girl or open the door
for her, and it's a really, really attractive quality. In so many ways he's a good,
old-fashioned Southern man. I think that Sawyer has a very big and vulnerable
heart, and I think Josh does, too."
- Evangeline Lilly

"Evi is truly amazing. She’s so giving as a person and actress
and a pleasure to work with."
- Josh Holloway

"He’s the sweetest, most tender-hearted guy – and he’s sexy!"
- Evangeline Lilly

"Apart from being a pretty girl with a hot bod, what makes Evi sexy is her
willingness to play. I like a girl who's unafraid to get dirty and throw herself into
the physical aspect of what we do. Evi's willing to be a little warrior, and I appreciate that. Yet she maintains her femininity.
She's a tomboy, and that's sexy. Climbing out of those freaking cages and
jumping down with no rope, no nothin' - she did it every single time, probably ten
times. She got huge bruises. I'm protective of her because as our friendship has grown, I've seen that she does crazy s---.
Stuff that a stuntperson should do. I'm like a scolding mother to her now.
I'm like, 'Hey! That's enough of that! Let someone else do it.'"
- Josh Holloway



F U T U R E
t i t l e s
I won't give in. I can't give up on this love.
Take me back into your arms and don't ever let me go. I’m not lost anymore, I'm home.
I may not be the one for you, but I'll always be there for you...
It was long ago and far away, but it never disappears.
It's so hard to forget someone who gave you so much to remember.
Somewhere in this city is a road I know, where we could make it; but maybe there's no making it now.
When lies become the truth, that's when I run to you.
It’s never over; she’s a tear that hangs inside my heart forever...
This type of love isn't rational; it's physical.
If you feel like running today, you know I'd understand.
I won't believe that all these days and all these dreams we're only meant to fall.
You've done nothing at all to make me love you less, so come back when you can.
Turn back time, we can do better than this.
Through the years we had it all; this house of cards, it had to fall.
You are the best thing that's ever been mine.
In truth she’s feeling everything for Sawyer. – I Do Script
But even he tosses it off like it’s not big deal—it’s the most sincere thing he’s ever said in his entire life. – I Do Script
Kate’s heart lifts. And for this one moment, in time, they are COMPLETELY CONNECTED. – I Do Script
They move further into Sawyer’s cage, oblivious to everything but THIS MOMENT. – I Do Script
And as they begin to go at it big time. They tastefully sink OUT OF FRAME. – I Do Script
Kate and Sawyer are officially GOING AT IT. – I Do Script
Maybe it’s because he showed genuine FEELING. And maybe it’s because she really LOVES him. – I Do Script
She immediately looks around for Sawyer. But his cage is empty. and now she’s worried. – I Do Script
On Kate—visible relief. He’s OKAY. – I Do Script
Sawyer seeing her anguish. Trying to be brave, but knowing it’s OVER. – I Do Script
And Sawyer looks up at her, tears in HIS eyes now. – I Do Script
"Kate's going to marry Sawyer, if my son has a heart." - Damon Lindelof's Mama




15 | 51
"Looks like we got something in common after all..."



S C E N E o f t h e M O M E N T


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TFTNT bb!

I haven't watched Deadgirl yet btw. Was too busy.
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No problem.

I don't know if I'll ever be watching it. It sounds scary.
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According to my friend it's ****ed up and distrurbing.
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Alright, well that puts me off.

A lot Candice's movies seem to be really odd. The only one that's not is Juno.
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Kate hate is something I really don't understand, I mean, I get where it is coming from and what scenes could turn people into Kate haters, but the fact that she is getting more hate than any other LOST character is a mystery to me.
I didn't hate Kate, so much as I hated what the writers would do to her when they had her flopping at Jack's feet. It was degrading to see her grovel, crying and apologizing constantly for just being herself. Having her act that way, after we'd seen in other instances what a tough, independent, capable and kickass Outlaw she could be, was disappointing and unrealistic.

She was always her real self with Sawyer. Moments like 'I Never'; pulling a gun on the Others & going back-to-back with Sawyer, opening fire; scaling the bars of her cage and smashing Sawyer's cage open with a rock; snatching the gun and threatening to blow Jason's leg off; swan-diving into the ocean to escape the Island; those sorts of moments were Kate. Her other 'Monica' moments were disgusting, but fortunately, her scenes with Sawyer dominated her story. Well, at least until she was dead & rotting, that is. And even then, she couldn't stop flirting with him through cage bars.
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The thing is that I think Kate had a potential to be one of the most well developed characters ever on television hadn't her so called ~ romance with Jack happened. She was an outlaw, a murderer. She made a horrible, awfull mistake and boom, she was on the island with so many people some of which made mistakes worse than her. And she helped those people when they where in trouble though they would never do this for her; she was there for them though they wouldn't be there for her; and finally, she met Sawyer whom she cared about figuring out and understanding - she didn't have any idea why at that point - and that's why she read his letter again and again to finally understand it was a letter to himself. That's why Sawyer wanted to figure her out too and it was on a level of instinct that they opened up to each other, dropped the masks they where wearing to hide their true selves, problems and feelings from other people, long before they became each other's romantic interests (that's why we had to wait for THREE entire seasons before their first sex scene happened. Kinda loads of build up for a couple that is "just about sex" don't you think? ). But then what do we see? This girl who would never EVER do something she doesn't want to do, because she had no problem with getting what she wanted (and if she wanted Jack, she would come and have him in every sense of that word and would be all "Sawyer who?" for the most part of her time on island) - this girl was actually supposed to be "using" Sawyer while wanting Jack? Give me a break. That awfull scene was awfull and almost put me off Skate shipping, but then I remembered everything that happened before that and laughed at it very hard, because looking back we had absolutelly NO indication of Kate's ~ deep feelings for Jack, other than her sharing with him few scenes that she as well shared with Kate, Sayid and other Losties (perhaps, she was in love with them too?) and a kiss that she RAN AWAY FROM. That's why this character insult that Jate and everything about it was I blamed on writers and not on Kate.
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She was very judgy in season 1 and 2 though. She was strong and independent - when she wasn't around Jack - but she was also very judgemental imo.

But the truth is that a lot of female characters had potential on Lost but the writing just went downhill. Each woman was degraded to being a love interest at some point.
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I actually didn't view it as being judgemental, I could respect the fact that despite having issues she also had morals that she tried to stick to. Idk, of course it's just my personal opinion

Claire had so much potential but it was never explored after a certain point. Same with Ana Lucia.
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Okay just adding myself to this, since Skate are the first couple who ever broke my shipping heart. I gave up on Lost tbh, but still couldn't bear not to know, so watched through my fingers as it hurtled towards disaster and still, still, even with Juliet and his whatever that was, when Kate came back they were just...and I hated the writers. Oh man I'm gonna go on a rant.

I may be sexist, but I don't care, we need more female writers in TV land. Because men suck at it. Romance that is. Skate was the only fully fleshed relationship Kate had on that show, yet they had her end up with Jack in heaven? Why? WTF? He was the broken one incapable of loving others, yet the writers made him the freakin' be all and end all and it was so bad. He would have been heroic if he hadn't actually ruined other people on his way to it. That's not heroism. Character development in TV right now sucks, and for me it started with Skate. Did they think it was cliche? Whatever. To me, Skate were the best thing about Lost. Oh them and Charlie.

Sorry if not coherent lol, my Skate bitterness swelled up and spilled out unintelligibly. Initial rage over now, I'll lurk.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts I completelly agree with everything you said. The thing is that Skate had everything from start to finish and it was more than we could wish for a couple to have. Writers tried to cheapen their love, but it never worked because they where two people that wher willing to die for each other = purest form of love ever. Periode. I think Jack could love, but when it came to Kate, I think he was more obsessed with the idea of her, he only saw what she was on the surface and everything else about her he just didn't know, or didn't like or didn't even try to understand and nor did she ever try to open up to him about anything.

The heaven thing was just... *sigh*... well, lets say, the whole final and sideways being a purtagory set in Jack's wet dead dream was a major fail and Skate happened to be a part of it. Kate happened to be a part of it and Sawyer happened to be a part of it. It was everything Jack couldn't get in real life, respect and trust from other people and loyalty from Kate. And so he got it in last 5 minutes of a WTF final.

Charlie was an amazing character with so much potential and I think when writers killed him off it was obvious that writers where gonna go for easy ways of writing by throwing random "gotcha!" moments on us instead of real character developement.

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Hey!!

Yeah. That ending. Sorry but what a cop out fest that was.

In my head, and heart, Lost ended with Kate and Sawyer on that plane.

To me, Jacks character was diminished a lot, and whilst I didn't want him to have Kate, I wanted him to get something more than what they gave him.

He reminded me of people I know, whose hard times become the thing that define them, and they never fully let that stuff go in order to live in the now. Too busy trying to live like you think you are supposed to, rather than how your heart tells you. If that makes sense?

Sawyer and Kate's experiences did the opposite in many ways (till stuff went wrong) they learnt to grasp happy and to see them accept each other wholly was wonderful to me. Kate was a square peg shoved into a round hole in Jacks life, with Sawyer, they were puzzle pieces that snapped into place.

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In my head, and heart, Lost ended with Kate and Sawyer on that plane.
And that's the most hopeful thing to take from the farce of a finale.

Sawyer & Kate chose to fight for life. They decided to get the hell off the Island, and they did - - together - - just as Sawyer promised her. Where their lives took them from there is anyone's guess, but I have a feeling that they remained incredibly close (in all ways possible! ) and important to each other, for the rest of their lives.

Then, they died. And got their ZOMG!YAYZ!!! "ultimate reward"...they were allowed to fart rainbows in Jack's shiny light. Cue the s.
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Your description is great! The biggest issue with Jack was the fact that he could have been an awesome character: troubled, lost in every kind of way person who was forced to lead the group of people though it was him who needed to be shown the light because he was so messed up. I found it very interesting SL for him to explore. But quite soon it became obvious that writers where not gonna solve Jack's issues and work at his character properly, they where gonna make it look as if he has no issues AT ALL and is the most perfect human being ever who is supposed to be always right even when he would torture someone to get something because he thinks he has a right to. And finally, instead of actually making Jack to get to know all those people and become close to them they made Jack show a complete apathy and disrespect to everyone's feelings and thoughts and those people basically did everything on their own without turning their heads in the side of their so-called leader.

Like you said, with Skate it was like all the pieces fell into place. Despite them both being damaged and troubled people they found a way to complete each other and make the life of one another better for such a short periode of time. This is everything I could ask for a couple. And even if Sawyer had died jumping out of the helicopter their story would have still been epic.
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And that's the most hopeful thing to take from the farce of a finale.

Sawyer & Kate chose to fight for life. They decided to get the hell off the Island, and they did - - together - - just as Sawyer promised her. Where their lives took them from there is anyone's guess, but I have a feeling that they remained incredibly close (in all ways possible! ) and important to each other, for the rest of their lives.

Then, they died. And got their ZOMG!YAYZ!!! "ultimate reward"...they were allowed to fart rainbows in Jack's shiny light. Cue the s.
Too true!!

Everything beyond that got ...well. I shall not splatter this board with my venom on that matter.

Hell yeah they got to spend life together. IMO. Even the writers couldn't mess that up, or deny that these two would fight to survive, it was who they were.

And you know, life's what I focus on, not maybes after it, so the fact they made it out together, in my world, gives me their happy ending. Endings after endings make no sense. Life doesn't get a PS. Much as it would be awesome. IMO of-course.
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