majesdane

jeez now you sound like manu and me. there's still time.



well it WAS a woman who wrote it, so i'm gonna give her some credit that she was trying to be sincere. i mean PT was trying to pit all 4 women against each other in the dinner scene, so it may be clumsily written, but not untrue.

mte.

i have thoughts as to why it was important, but i'm too tired to articulate them. interesting how that sex scene is a foil to episode 108 tho. like actually seeing the scene, here now cosima and delphine have laid themselves bare for once and it's almost like the real first time.

danvers

EXCUSE ME.

majesdane

Aurora Cormier

Yeah, that was also

That was my favorite thing, honestly.

Nobody is as bitter as you guys And yeah, I know there's something with them in later episodes, but I doubt it will be anything big. From how much they teased this episode, I think this was supposed to be the Cophiniest episode of the season, and I'm mad that it turned out to be so lame I'm glad most of the fandom seems happy with it, though

I'm not saying it's untrue, I'm saying it was poorly written, knowing it was written by a woman doesn't change that at all to me.

madam magpie

It was great. Clone Club has crapped on Delphine, that's for sure. But I think it's only fair to allow Cosima the chance to make mistakes and grow up. She seems so young sometimes: she's crazy smart, but also impulsive and fairly black and white with her ethics. On some level, that fuels the integrity Delphine mentioned (and I do think one of Cosima's best qualities is her fierce belief in right and wrong), but it can also be myopic. How old are the clones supposed to be...27, 28? Maybe younger? Are they all the same age? Beth/Alison seem older, but Cosima was still in school...and I think Tatiana herself was only 26 or something when the show started.

This show relies a lot on subtext, probably because the actors are so incredibly good. But I think we've seen growth in Cosima. I hope that by the end of the series, she takes a big leap.

danvers

blasphemy!
but probably true.

MOOT

Iffy dialogue is something of a running theme in OB, some of season three was quite terrible, this not quite so bad. But isn't iffy dialogue a reflection on life, don't we all at some point say things that are odd, uncomfortable, an "ugh what did I say that for" moment. Are TV shows not allowed to have these moments too?

Maybe before the end of the season we'll see Cosima rush into Delphine's arms and tell her how she feels, a genuine ILY rather than the somewhat veiled ones of the past.

Less Than Perfect

Oh man, I feel like I walked into the twilight zone in this thread. Ju is disappointed and Manu and Twist are all positive. This is weird.

majesdane

i know it's true

i can't speak for manu, but i'm personally at the point where any cophine is good cophine for me. i've honestly hated 90% of this show since they introduced the castor clones, and i barely even watched s3/4, so i'm just like, whatever. i don't care anymore. cophine were never treated the way they deserved to be treated. i enjoy them as a couple, but it's like LG 2.0 for me where i am literally slugging it out JUST for cophine and i'll just be chill with whatever we get, because i don't trust this show to ever give me the good **** i want/deserve. so i'm "positive" because i'm just happy it's ending soon.

danvers

you can. and you did

Scully_fan

Going into 5x05 this was my biggest fear and I weirdly turned out loving it. Yeah it's true that when it comes to "big" cophine moments this episode was pimped out the most, and it will be the episode with the most screentime between them, and it is the turning point in terms of trust, and it does have the fancy pants editing with the flashback, but that's not to say THIS IS IT and the remaining 4 episodes yield nothing great. I'm not too concerned about it. There is a cophine plot in 5x08 and Cosima shouldn't be constantly throwing shade and Delphine is going to be able to tell Cosima more of what she's doing now they are interacting outside of Revival, and they should be much more of a united front. If they aren't I'll be the first to cry foul over it. Then there's 5x10 where it's almost certain they have a happy ending so I think, I hope, you can take heart that there is something to look forward to. Even EBro who may have loved 5x05 the most is still teasing the episodes after.


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(These gifs are terribly sized wtf)

I'm pretty sure Cosima is the oldest clone actually by a few weeks and Cosima is even older than Delphine supposedly.

majesdane

i love that cosima seems younger, even tho in reality she's older. i think it's realistic. i know plenty of people my age who are more "mature" than i am with a house and family, even though i'm their age/a little older.

madam magpie

Really?? That's so hard to believe! Where did that info come from? Delphine already had her PhD and was working with Dyad when the series began. I guess she could be a prodigy, but that's a leap. Then again, TV shows are notoriously bad with age.

Cosima/Sarah seem super young to me, while Alison/Beth/Rachel seem older. (Helena...I don't know.) I wonder why Tatiana chose to play them that way.

majesdane

s1 where delphine discovered cosima's book with all of their birthdays and stuff in it. delphine's info was on a computer screen monitor in s2.

Scully_fan

BTS:



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I kinda hope there's gonna be bloopers.