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{Immortal Beloveds} BelleღRumplestiltskin #128: "I just wanted you"

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"My thoughts got out to you, my Immortal Beloved, now and then joyfully, then sadly, waiting to learn whether or not fate will hear us
I can live only wholly with you or not at all
Yes, I am resolved to wander so long away from you until I can fly to your arms and say that I am really at home with you, and can send my soul en-wrapped in you into the land of spirits
Yes, unhappily it must be so
You will be the more contained since you know my fidelity to you. No one else can ever posses my heart never
Never
Oh God, why must be one parted from one whom one so loves.
Your love makes me at once the happiest and the unhappiest of men
Oh, continue to love me
Never misjudge the most faithful heart of your beloved.
Ever thine
Ever mine
Ever ours"

- Ludwig van Beethoven










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"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage."- Lao Tzu


The ABC's of Rumbelle, a TV romance as Old as Time









Gennifer Goodwin - "I would say that I love Rumpelstiltskin and Belle story." "This breathtaking scene between Robert Carlyle and Emile De Ravin made me cry upon reading the script." [on Gold's phone call to Belle]
Jane Espenson - "Yeah i ship them."
Adam Horowitz - "It was a beautiful thing to see the depths of love that one can have for another and that could mean is no matter what you face, no matter what you go through,you will never give up on the other person."
William Shatner - Shipping it and no one argues with the Captain
Jefferson/Mad Hatter - Because he helped Belle escaped
Prince Charming/David Nolan - Because he was Gold's wingman twice
Red/Ruby - Because she helped Gold find Belle
Grumpy - Because he gave Gold a potion to help Belle remember
Chip - Because this is the symbol of their True Love
Ariel - She helped Belle in showing Rumple is still alive
Archie - Officiated their wedding
Moe - Gave Belle away at their wedding









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" There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. We love because he first loved us." - 1 John 4:18-19






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"Belle is certainly the counterpoint to Gold. There’s no doubt about that. If there’s any possibility at all of Rumple or Gold changing, it’ll come through this character. She brings out the better side of him, and she’s the only one that can do that. She is his strength, in fact.”
― Robert Carlyle commentary from Girl Power Bonus Feature
"The theme of…this episode actually changed in the writing of it, which is very unusual on the show, ‘cause normally the guys know exactly what the episode’s about, and you go in knowing it and it never changes, but this one started out being about ‘Rumple chooses power over love’ and then I sort of realised during the writing of it, as I was going through drafts, and talking with the guys about it that that’s what Rumple wants to think he’s doing, but really it’s about that he doesn’t think he’s lovable or worthy of love. It just kept getting deeper and deeper as we worked with it. “
― Jane Espenson (writer), Skin Deep episode commentary
“I think he’d probably see, in his mind’s eye, nirvana for him with Belle, Bae, a castle, power—enough to take care of the kids—and be quite happy.”
― Robert Carlyle


"There won’t be uninterrupted happiness for Rumple and Belle until season seven.] “There will be a few children in between.”
― Emilie de Ravin
“To us it was a beautiful thing to see the depth of love that one can have for another, and that what that can mean is, no matter what you face, no matter what you go through, you will never give up on the other person if you really have that love and that belief in them.”
― Adam Horowitz










“She fell pretty hard and pretty quickly for him.
It was interesting for her to maybe not have the other person just react how she’s used to, like him just falling in love with her or you know being…basically not like him, that was really confused why this girl liked him at all. And I think that made her [fall in love with him] even more.”

― Emilie de Ravin at Comic Con (regarding Belle’s feelings for Rumplestiltskin)
"In terms of my career, that’s among the best 42 minutes of TV I’ve ever been involved in."
― Robert Carlyle ( concerning 'Skin Deep')
"Belle’s always been an independent woman, but she’s just always hanging out with Rumple. I don’t think that’s ever trampled on her independence. I think it’s almost lifted it in a sense."
― Emilie de Ravin








"But then we realized during the writing of it, as I was going through drafts and talking to the guys about it, that that's what Rumple wants to think he's doing...? But really, it's about that he doesn't think he's lovable. Or worthy of love. It just kept getting deeper and deeper as we worked with it."
- Jane Espenson (writer of 'Skin Deep')
"From the net and through twitter, I get such beautiful comments from people, hinting that they love this episode so much because it's proof that they could be loved."
- Robert Carlyle
"At the end of it all, he's got a really good heart, and he cares for her more than anything, and that's pretty obvious"
- Emilie de Ravin



A Dream Within a Dream
By Edgar Allan Poe


Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow:
You are not wrong who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand--
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep--while I weep!
O God! can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?





"I think that Happy Endings are, are earned. I don’t think they’re necessarily just given to you, you know just lying around."
- Robert Carlyle

"These two characters coming together, it’s the beast, but it’s Rumplestiltskin. I think it’s a fantastic dynamic, it’s such a fun relationship to play."
- Emilie de Ravin




“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered,
it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”

― 1 Corinthians 13:4
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Beauty & The Beast





"I think true love is massive, y’know? And that’s a big part of it."
― Robert Carlyle

" Most of these fairytales and the characters phonetically all have a good message in there somewhere, like you look at Beauty and the Beast, it’s what’s in the inside that counts."
― Emilie de Ravin

"I really enjoyed preforming it and working with Emilie, but what no one could plan for was the reaction that that had, people were saying that this episode gives them hope that everyone has a chance to find love."
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True Love Kisses











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"I love you, I love you, my heart is a rose which you have brought to bloom,
my life is a desert fanned by the delicious breeze of your breath, and whose cool spring are your eyes."
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"He’s the only one love she ever has had"
― Emilie de Ravin

"Belle is Rumplestiltskin’s emotional centre, that’s what keeps him in the side of good. The closer he is to Belle, the better he is. The farther he gets away, the more dangerous he is for everyone"
― Robert Carlyle

"She’s the love of his bloody life, they’ve gone through Hell together. I guess that’s what love is. [Laughs] It’s not that easy.”
― Emilie de Ravin








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“I have not spent a day without loving you; I have not spent a night without embracing you’ I have not so much as drunk one cup of tea without curing the pride and ambition which force me to remain apart from the moving spirit of my life.” - Napoleon Bonaparte



“I would say that I love the Rumplestilskin-Belle story. I love the idea that he’s the Beast — and why not? There’s nothing in that story that implies that it could not have been the same Beast.”
― Ginnifer Goodwin


“She fell pretty hard and pretty quickly for him”
― Emilie de Ravin


“In the episode ‘Skin Deep’ you see Rumplestiltskin in all his glory — good, bad or otherwise.” After that aired, fans went wild. “They loved him for some reason. They felt for him and wanted him to find Belle and be happy. And he’s the monster.”
― Robert Carlyle







Reasons

Future Titles


"What? First you tell me I let the pirate live, and now you tell me I fall for the help?"
"What are you saying?" "Will you marry me?" Yes, yes yes"
"Sometimes the best book has the dustiest jacket. And sometimes the best teacup is chipped.”
"Your unwavering faith constantly astounds me."
"My walls were up. But you brought them down. You brought me home."
"You brought light into my life and chased away all the darkness."
"I owe more to you than I can ever say. How you can see the man behind the monster I will never know."
" But now I realize… I realize that I have not spent my life losing you. I’ve spent my life finding you."
"I will never comprehend why you continue to stand by my side."
"Your unwavering faith constantly astounds me."
"I love him. All of him. Even the parts that belong to the darkness."
"What you're giving me is more than I can ever give you."
"Now we're married." - "Now we're married." - Robert and Emilie
"The man beneath the monster may be flawed, but we all are. And I love you for it." - Belle
"Sometimes the best book has the dustiest jacket, and sometimes the best teacup is chipped." - Belle
"We were both genuinely kind of teary" "Yeah" - Robert and Emilie regarding the wedding
"The Belle and Rumple Show" "Rumbelle" "Rumbelle" - Robert and Emilie
"Belle knows this is a dangerous person to even be with at all. But she’s tried to see through, see behind the monster. And she’s got closer than anyone has in hundreds of years.” - Robert Carlyle
"Their love and their relationship is so strong and it was so wonderful to see them coming together like this at the end" -Adam
"I mean these two just break my heart and these vows are so beautiful…" -Eddy
I wish I could turn back the clock. I'd find you sooner and love you longer.
"Why would you do that? I mean, with that object-" - "They still won't be able to harm you."?



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Ripped your heart out scene that, amazing acting from Robert and Emilie

Now onto the long road back to their recovery and then dating
They always bring their A game to those soul crushing scenes.
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Do they ever!!! one of the many reasons I love Robert and Emilie so much!! LMAO!

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They do have some good eye sex arguing moments! LMAO!
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TFTNT! And IA that Emelie and Robert always bring their A Game in angsty scenes. Well, they do in all of Rumbelle's scenes. But there's something about them ripping my heart out and leaving me bleeding on the floor when there's angst that I can't get over.
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OK, I'm getting over the flu, so I don't know if this is a sensible post or not, but I'm an Imagine Dragons fan. It's probably just my current mood, but I could turn a lot of their new songs into very angsty theme music for Rumbelle if I had any talent for putting together videos. That said, here's the image in my head for a Rumbelle video for one of their songs (and, no, I haven't seen the Transformers movie that used this):

Battle Cry

Opening Scene: Rumple and Belle at the town line as Belle forces him over. I think you can tell where Rumple says the part about being afraid.

One more time for our goal
I'll let you know
And all this time I've been afraid wouldn't let it show
Nobody can save me now, no
Nobody can save me now


Rumple opening the hat in the tower. Emma and Snow don't appear in these clips. Just the stars and Rumple, climaxing on when he starts to squeeze the heart. Quick switch to shocked/grief-stricken Belle looking at him while holding the dagger.

Stars can only be visible in the darkness,
Fear is always changing in
And I I I can poison these eyes


Scene of Belle opening the curtains and being caught by Rumple. She falls on "the king is down."

Nobody can save you now
The king is down
It's do or die!


Belle escaping from Hook in the library into the elevator. Elevator opens on Rumple coming to save Belle.

Nobody can save you now
Nowhere safe
It's the battle cry
It's the battle cry
Battle cry


Belle at the end of season one when she'd just reached Gold's shop and Gold realizes she's alive, then embraces her.

Nobody can save you now
It's do or die


Scene of Zelena ordering Rumple to kill Belle

Nobody can save you now
The king is down
It's do or die!


Scene of Belle being shot at town line and falling into Rumple's arms.

Nobody can save you now
Nowhere safe
It's the battle cry
It's the battle cry
Battle cry


Scene of Rumple standing alone in Belle's cell, eyes closed. Voice over, "I don't want you anymore, dearie."

Nobody can save you now
It's do or die


Scene of Rumple in cell fades into Rumple crumbling to the ground as he crosses the town line.

Voice over: "I will never comprehend why you continue to stand by side."

One more time for our goal
I'll let you know


Voice over: "There's only one of those paths that I'm interested in. . . . The one where you and I are together.

And all this time I've been afraid wouldn't let it show
Nobody can save me now, no
Nobody can save me now


Voice over: "She's gone. She's gone forever."

Fade out on Gold in the street, reaching for Belle after she's vanished. Music dies away to silence.

Voice over: She's not coming back.
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Thanks for the new thread..
and Happy New Year!!

I've been posting from the grave myself since their amazing scene at the finale.

I don't think any couple had given us so much!

They really play off each other perfectly.

This is A/E's IT couple. The couple that is getting talked about since the finale, since last's winter's finale.
4b will be their journey back discovering themselves and making their way back to each other




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Thanks for the new thread!

Bringing this from Rumple thread.. my thoughts about Rumbelle this season:

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I think the writers wanted to kind of start over with Rumbelle, because during the first 3 seasons their story wasn't really about them - it was mostly about Rumple looking for his son and making amends to him, with Belle as a moral support (which probably is why she was so sidelined). Now that story is over and Neal is dead (*glares angrily at the writers*), so the show can really focus on Rumbelle, and retell the story of Beauty and the Beast. And for that, Belle needed to see Rumple first as "a beast", so they had to make him dark again (Besides, if they make Rumple a good guy too soon, Robert might walk out - he likes to play conflicted/dark Rumple). So yeah, I do believe he will get his act together by the end of the season, so Belle can see "the man behind the beast" again.
It also looks like Rumbelle's story is being told more from Belle's POV now (as BatB is supposed to be told - she is the hero of that story, after all): The Rumple-centric episode didn't have a lot of Rumbelle in it, but the Belle-centric was basically about Rumbelle. The midseason finale was Rumbelle-centric with Belle playing the key part.

I like it, actually. And I can't wait to see how their story will continue.

Kelaine, I like Imagine Dragons too.They have many songs that give me Rumbelle/Rumple feels ("Demons", "I Bet My Life", and "Monster" for example).
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Very true..

I agree. I think it will be awesome to see their story take off now and be centric to the arc.



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The above is an interesting parallel. I've seen arguments about why Rumple was so against going off to a new place with Milah when she asked and why he wanted to go off with Belle. That Rumple took Milah's agency away.

But this is not true.
Rumple was poor and unable to walk w/o crutches. Moving his home, work(spinning wheel, sheep) would not have been an easy task for someone in their financial position. Plus Milah's outright hatred for him, and abuse. How could he take her agency away when she treated him like this all the time? He was not the one with the power in the house, so no agency could be taken.

I look at this parallel and see if Rumple knew that even if he and Milah did move, that she still wouldn't have been happy. The problem was she hated him, where they lived wasn't going to change that.

Where as with Belle loved him, faults and all. She never abused him, wished him dead, or hated him.
Even now she doesn't hate him. He made her happy, and he knew that where ever they had gone that love would have been there.
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Thanks for the new thread.
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Happy new year, guys, and thanks for the new thread.

Fingers crossed for some follow-through with the angst in 4B.

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Somehow I missed the word "eye" the first time I read that...
Let them be locked in a confining space and every single will get worked out in a shouting match that would hopefully end in a hot and heavy, clothes ripping, intense bout of make up sex! hahah!
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Let them be locked in a confining space and every single will get worked out in a shouting match that would hopefully end in a hot and heavy, clothes ripping, intense bout of make up sex! hahah!
Adam and Eddie would never be that kind to us! LOL!

I am tired of angst and I want them to work out their problems together without interference from the others!
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Kelaine, I like Imagine Dragons too.They have many songs that give me Rumbelle/Rumple feels ("Demons", "I Bet My Life", and "Monster" for example).
Imagine Dragons are the Rumbelle/Rumple soundtrack people (even when it looks like a song was written before the show, these guys must have had some kind of link to Storybrooke before the curse broke ).

Realized I should have said on the song, I was (hopefully) putting the images in an order that showed the basics of what happened--Rumple is exiled and why it happened--in context of part of what was driving Rumple, images of the times he saved Belle leading into images of the times he was powerless to save to save her. Being powerless terrifies him ("No one can save me now") but so does being unable to protect those he loves. "No one can save you now" means more to him. When Belle vanishes from his sight, the final voice over is from when he thought she was dead.

He's afraid for himself, but I think he's even more afraid to not know if Belle is alive or dead.

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Rumple was poor and unable to walk w/o crutches. Moving his home, work(spinning wheel, sheep) would not have been an easy task for someone in their financial position. Plus Milah's outright hatred for him, and abuse. How could he take her agency away when she treated him like this all the time? He was not the one with the power in the house, so no agency could be taken.
Milah herself was unwilling to make changes that would have helped the family's reputation, like giving up drinking away the family's earnings in the local tavern and cavorting with passing strangers.

And, now to give a tediously long thing about the dangers of leaving home in the middle ages.

Leaving would have been difficult and expensive. It's likely there were already significant numbers of refugees because of the Ogres, some of them skilled craftsmen, like Rumple. Personal friends and contacts meant much more in a medieval society than ours. Many people spent their whole lives in communities where they knew everyone. Establishing a business in a place where you were unknown, where you had no friends or ties, was extremely difficult. Rumple may have been an outcast in his village, but (assuming the spinsters knew what they were talking about) he was creating high level goods before he was ten. We can only guess how good he was as an adult. But, we know that, despite being a social pariah and Milah drinking away a significant part of the family income, they were reasonably prosperous when Milah left. We can probably assume people still did business with him because they knew the quality of his work. He wouldn't have had that in a new town. He also would have lacked grazing rights for his flock that established residents had. If it was an area that had attracted other people fleeing the war or other troubles, we can assume higher prices for homes and other resources.

Plus, we know that violent crime was up. Pirates were, if you'll recall, were operating fairly openly in the area. If there were a lot of refugees on the road, it's likely there were thieves on the road preying on them as well. If they'd traveled by ship to a new home, they might have been on one Hook himself attacked. They would have faced similar dangers overland.
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Adam and Eddie would never be that kind to us! LOL!

I am tired of angst and I want them to work out their problems together without interference from the others!
*heavy sigh* I know.... it's nice to dream though that things could get that HAWT for them! They are the only ones who haven't gotten a scrocher of a PG scene. Not like OQ.... ugh... not fair.

DOWN WITH ANGST. There has been too much of it as of late. I mean it's all well and good to have some of it, some of the tme, but constantly is just out of hand. There are ways to cause discord between couples without BREAKING them apart every season.
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