Lost - Hooligans #87 {Sawyer/Kate} Fear, Honesty & Compromise. Two Lovers Awaiting Freedom

Darbi · 07-06-2006, 12:35 PM

By In Fair Verona

By Tarhiliel

The Hooligan Stash!

(Please PM Killers Angel Eyes to be added to the list)

Why We Love S/K
1. Because they have a connection.
2. Because she's his 'Freckles.'
3. Because they had the first kiss.
4. Because once you go Sawyer, you never go Jack.
5. Because he knows her type.
6. Because she's seen every square inch of him.
7. Because she made him moan.
8. Because she triggers something in him that's vulnerable.
9. Because they know each others darkest secrets.
10. Because we saw tongue!
11. Because they couldn't say goodbye.
12. Because they've rolled around the floor, several times!
13. Because he got the briefcase for her.
14. Because she has carte-blanche.
15. Because they spent the night together.
16. Because she's his Nurse Kate
17. Because she's his reason to stay
18. Because She was Worth Staying For
19. Because he won´t judge her
20. Because they were the first to kiss in the island
21. Because he wished for her four years before he knew her
22. Because they played "I never"
23. Because they have "something in common after all"
24. Because she just wanted to spend some time with the only other person on this island that just don't belong.
25. Because she was looking for his letter in the botle
26. Because she didn´t say goodbye
27. Because he wouldn't mind sharing a few things with her himself
28. Because he was "protecting" her (Ep. 112)
29. Because he "hate to bicker about positions" (E.112)
30. Because she was on top (E. 112)
31. Because Hoolies are an impatient bunch.
32. Because she got ON THE BED!!
33. Because she bet on him against Jack (Ep. 109)
34. Because her lap is the perfect pillow for him.
35. Because maybe she was not there for the case at all
36. Because she was dieing to get a little closer and warm him up
37. Because they talk one outcast to another
38. Because he doesn´t bore her
39. Because she´ll make him fall in love for the first time
40. Because the head kisses are deep
41. Because she admitted she has feelings for him.
42. Because when he said there was nothing worth staying for, he lied
43. Because her thoughts were of him on the raft, they didn't get to say goodbye
44. Because her "whisper in the ear" technique made him all better
45. Because she sat by his side while he was recovering
46. Because he woke up to the sound of her voice
47. Because they both saw the horse
48. Because they wished they could've said goodbye to eachother.
49. Because we know she really does want to be his nurse.
50. Because they make bananas sexy.
51. Because she wants to wake him up every morning.
52. Because when she helped him up, the sexual tension was nearly explosive.
53. Because Kate could use a little Southern Comfort.
54. Because lets face it we are all Hooligans at heart.

By Killers Angel Eyes

By Tarhiliel

Even TV Guide Loves Them
They aren't officially a couple, but Lost's Sawyer and Kate generate a ton of heat with their spark-filled love/hate attitudes. This unbeatable romantic tension will have to be addressed sooner or later — the island isn't that big. And after the thieving Kate gave the tortured troublemaker one of the hottest kisses of all time, another may send an S.O.S. to Sawyer's heart.

Excerpt from an Evangeline Lilly interview in Lost magazine:
"I try to analyze the situation as realistically as possible and I can only see Kate and Sawyer growing closer from what's happened. If Sawyer gets back to the island, they should have a new sense of value in each other. They say if you love something, let it go, and then see what happens from there. Not only did they break physically, but they really broke ties emotionally before they left. You see them both gazing out across the beach before they left, looking for each other, so they clearly play a significant part in each other's lives. I also think that what Sawyer gives to Kate is a sense of normalcy and mutuality. When she is around Sawyer, suddenly who she is doesn't have to be hidden and I think she's less ashamed of it. I think she is more able to say, This is who I am. Take it or leave it,buddy! That's a real gift. In real life, usually the people we feel the most in love with and attracted to are the people that allow us to be ourselves- faults and all."

Excerpt from a Josh Holloway interview in Lost magazine:
No doubt fans are eagerly anticipating Sawyer and Kate locking lips again but will his absence truly have made their hearts grow fonder? "I don't know how reuniting with Kate will strengthen or weaken their relationship," reports Holloway. "It is yet to be discovered. However, their current relationship definitely is motivating his will to survive."

Excerpt from a Josh Holloway interview in TV Guide:
Viewers will have a chance to see the softer side of Sawyer as his romance with Kate continues to heat up. "He generally cares [for her]," Holloway says. "She triggers something in him that's vulnerable."

From an Evangeline Lilly interview with E! Online's Kristin Veitch:
"How could anyone choose?" Evangeline Lilly tells me. But she does have an opinion for her alter ego, Kate. "Honestly, I think that I have to say sometimes I feel like Kate is a better match for Sawyer, because they've got a lot in common. I mean, Jack's almost like Kate's hero, whereas Sawyer's like her equal. They're kind of just these sparring partners, and Jack is like someone she almost idolizes and that, to me, is not the kind of relationship I'd want to be in. I don't know about you, but I don't wanna worship the guy that I'm with. I wanna kind of play around with him and be on equal terms with him, so I'm gonna have to go with Sawyer... for now!"

Excerpt from an Evangeline Lilly interview in the British Elle Magazine:
"Sawyer makes so much more sense than Jack because Kate is inferior to Jack in so many ways at this point. Jack is so righteously superior to her and that's not attractive. She and Sawyer are on a level. They get each other. They might get each other in a depraved, wild way, but at least it's parallel."

Excerpt from an Evangeline Lilly article in the UK Daily Express:
"Kate has gravitated more toward Sawyer. She's not completeley in love with him yet, but she has an attraction to him."

Official Hooligan Greeting
The Sawyer Tackle

The Drinking Game

That's right, Hooliganians! You can't wait for him to call her 'Freckles.' You get giddy when they're in a scene together. You spend all week thinking about what the next new episode will bring. Now there's a game that's just as crazy as the Hooliganians! The Hooligan Drinking Game.

Kate Gives Sawyer a Longing Look - 1 Drink
After a heated conversation, one of the two walks off and Kate shoots her Lover Boy a longing look (i.e. her thoughts are something along the lines of 'I love you,' 'I want to jump you,' 'Let's ditch this island and go get it on in a motel.')

Sawyer Calls Kate 'Freckles' - 1 Drink
It's self explanatory. Take another sip if he gives one of those cute smirks after he says it.

Kate Breaks Up a Fight Between Sawyer and Someone Else - 2 drinks
Kate tries to break up a fight between Sawyer and someone else and does so while remaining calm, cool, and collected. Half a sip more if it's Sayid.

Sawyer Makes an 'Obscene' Comment and Kate Pretends to be Offended - 1 drink
Yeah . . . we all know she's not offended. Take another 5 sips if she actually doesn't make a fake offended face.

Kate and Sawyer Have Physical Contact - 3 drinks
Kate and Sawyer have some sort of physical contact, be it him on top of her or him protecting her from boars. Take one more sip if it's foreplay.

Kate and Sawyer Kiss - Chug, Chug, Chug!
And then tape the episode so you can watch it again and again.

Sawyer and Kate hook up and then ditch Jack to run off into the jungle to live on their own - Keep On Drinking . . . Never Stop

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#69: Soon They'll be at it like Bunnies!
#70: FF is back & we still have all our pretty banners.Yay!
#71: Because they always find their way back to each other!
#72: "Sawyer Makes So Much More Sense" - Evie
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#74: She Is *So* In His Head
#75: Her comfort is in his embrace.
#76: Love is a madness most discreet.
#77: We can see it, we can feel it..but we can't title it!
#78: She's the closest thing he has to a soulmate.
#79: "You in?"
#80: "Ah, Summer. Ample Time To Go Crazy."
#81: She's the person he needs to survive
#82: Season 3 Will Be The Season Of Skate
#83: "He's All Caught Up In It Now. She's Got Him"--Josh
#84: They're a Beautiful Mess, and Every Attic Has A Treasure
#85: Tater Tots & Award-Winning Chemistry!
#86: "She Felt Something When They Kissed For Sure"--Evi

UK Promo

-Katie- · 07-06-2006, 12:46 PM

I was saying at the DH board about how Lost should have sent in a better Emmy tape because the one they sent in wasn't that impressive and could have easily cost them the Emmy nom.

Lost sent in:

Man of Science, Man of Faith
Dave
The 23rd Pslam

These weren't impressive episodes and played more into the hatch and mystery rather than the emotional strings.

I would have picked

1.) The Whole Truth
2.) The Long Con
3.) The Other 48 Days

All were emotional and the first 2 may have been some of the best flashbacks of the year. Other possibilites could be "Collison" and "Maternity Leave". I wasn't happy with what they sent in at all.

Some of those voters may have never seen the show before and therefore, the episodes might have confused them.

Darbi · 07-06-2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by -Katie-

I was saying at the DH board about how Lost should have sent in a better Emmy tape because the one they sent in wasn't that impressive and could have easily cost them the Emmy nom.

Lost sent in:

Man of Science, Man of Faith
Dave
The 23rd Pslam

These weren't impressive episodes and played more into the hatch and mystery rather than the emotional strings.

1.) The Whole Truth
2.) The Long Con
3.) The Other 48 Days

All were emotional and the first 2 may have been some of the best flashbacks of the year. Other possibilites could be "Collison" and "Maternity Leave". I wasn't happy with what they sent in at all.

Some of those voters may have never seen the show before and therefore, the episodes might have confused them.

The 23rd Psalm was fine since there was a emotional cord running throughout the episode along with really great performances from AAA, Emilie and Dom (although he was a annoying in that episode) Not to mention it ampted up the sci-fi effect for all the geek heads. MOS, MOF and Dave were too convaluted for someone who hasn't seen the show before wouldn't get a good sense of what the show was about...at all.

Crystaline · 07-06-2006, 02:05 PM

Thanks for the new thread.

Darbi · 07-06-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason's Lover4life

Thanks for the new thread.

You're welcome.

I was thinking about '...and Found' last night when Kate tore through the messages in that bottle looking for...? Not sure what she was looking for. But, what if Sawyer would have Kate his letter? It would have been great continuincy from S1 (the last time the letter was mentioned was in 'Outlaws') It would have provided greater depth and meaning as to why Kate reacted the way she did. And it would have been great for Kate to bring it back up once Sawyer returned...or better yet, asked him if he wanted the letter back in 'TLC' since she confronted him about his need to be hated again.

What do you guys think?

lizziefitz · 07-06-2006, 03:00 PM

Lovely title for the new thread.

I think it worked better in ...and Found for there not to have been anything in the bottle for Kate to find--it just drove home for Kate that he was gone, and she'd missed her chance to say whatever it was she needed to say. And there wouldn't have been much reason for Sawyer to put his letter in the bottle, since he had no reason to think it would wash up on shore and end up in Kate's hands. Now, if they had had a chance for that last talk, and he'd given her the letter then....But I still like the way Exodus worked out better.

I keep wondering about that letter. I'm sure Kate doesn't have it, because I think she would have used it in TLC. "Here, I guess you need this after all." That would have been a great moment. I do hope the letter shows up again somehow. I'd hate for that to just be another dropped plotpoint. It's too important to Sawyer's character.

Darbi · 07-06-2006, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lizziefitz

Lovely title for the new thread.

I think it worked better in ...and Found for there not to have been anything in the bottle for Kate to find--it just drove home for Kate that he was gone, and she'd missed her chance to say whatever it was she needed to say. And there wouldn't have been much reason for Sawyer to put his letter in the bottle, since he had no reason to think it would wash up on shore and end up in Kate's hands. Now, if they had had a chance for that last talk, and he'd given her the letter then....But I still like the way Exodus worked out better.

I keep wondering about that letter. I'm sure Kate doesn't have it, because I think she would have used it in TLC. "Here, I guess you need this after all." That would have been a great moment. I do hope the letter shows up again somehow. I'd hate for that to just be another dropped plotpoint. It's too important to Sawyer's character.

Most definitely.

A poster over on the 'Fuse' mentioned maybe Kate was looking for a note that she put in the bottle to see if he got it. I hadn't thought of that, but it's a possibility she figured Sawyer would get bored, want something to read and regardless of the privacy he was violating would look in the bottle eventually to find her note. Now, that would have been a nice twist.

However, like you, I liked the way things ended in Exodus...it was a necessary step to how they came back together in S2. But, I think Sawyer leaving Kate his letter and her returning it in 'TLC' would have been priceless and fantastic continuincy.

Liz01 · 07-06-2006, 03:23 PM

I think the 23rd Psalm was excellent, one of the most fantastic episodes of the season. I don't agree with the rest of their choices though.

New thread!

Crystaline · 07-06-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Darbi

But, I think Sawyer leaving Kate his letter and her returning it in 'TLC' would have been priceless and fantastic continuincy.

Oh, most definitely! In fact, what the hell happened to his letter? Are we to assume it's lost in the ocean after the raft blew up or does Sawyer still have it and the writers have just decided to neglect its purpose like they've done most of the happenings this season?

Darbi · 07-06-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason's Lover4life

Oh, most definitely! In fact, what the hell happened to his letter? Are we to assume it's lost in the ocean after the raft blew up or does Sawyer still have it and the writers have just decided to neglect its purpose like they've done most of the happenings this season?

I don't know what we're to assume about Sawyer's letter. But it does seem odd that there was absolutely no mention of it the entire season...and like Lizzie stated above, it's such a big part of Sawyer's character to just be dropped.

Katiegg108 · 07-06-2006, 05:15 PM

So, i've been watching my DVDs again, and I've fallen in love with S/K all over again... I mean, I already loved them, but just watching it all, knowing all that I know again, wow. And when they went swimming in Whatever the Case May Be,

Crystaline · 07-06-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Darbi

I don't know what we're to assume about Sawyer's letter. But it does seem odd that there was absolutely no mention of it the entire season...and like Lizzie stated above, it's such a big part of Sawyer's character to just be dropped.

Exactly. If there was any episode this season where it would've been plausible to see that letter resurface and serve its purpose on Sawyer's psyche, it would've been TLC. They had him remember his glasses were gone, but not his letter?

Can you say stupid?

Liz01 · 07-06-2006, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason's Lover4life

Oh, most definitely! In fact, what the hell happened to his letter? Are we to assume it's lost in the ocean after the raft blew up or does Sawyer still have it and the writers have just decided to neglect its purpose like they've done most of the happenings this season?

Didn't Sawyer tell Walt he didn't write one? I was never sure if he actually had or not.

Crystaline · 07-06-2006, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liz01

Didn't Sawyer tell Walt he didn't write one? I was never sure if he actually had or not.

No, I was referring to the letter he wrote to the real Sawyer.

IceKat055 · 07-06-2006, 07:42 PM

Evenin', Hoolies! Just swinging by to drop off a little playful Skate vid I threw together...the first song I heard this morning was "So Alive" by Love & Rockets, so...well...

Here 'tis!


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