ღMitra

Agreed completely. I'm sure they'll address the age thing when it's appropriate to do so. Or maybe, off-cameras.

Agreed I'm surprised as to how much chemistry they had in the SP. I knew they would have chemistry, but not that much. I'm really excited for Tallahassee so things get sorted out already, and we can move on from this WHO'S THE BABY DADDY, thing

I_Love_Siobhan_Magnus

That sounds ridiculous. How could he know that 300 years were compressed into a few second in that vortex that Bae jumped in? Was that a coincidence that he spent the exact same length of time to create the curse? What if Bae was sent to a time which was 300 years earlier than Desperate Soul's era instead of 300 years forward? The "time travel" theory doesn't make sense unless Blue Fairy, who gave Bae the bean, planned it.

I don't believe it. If Jefferson's hat can bring him there, he should've found Hook who "tricked" him. Neverland is supposed to be somewhere beyond his reach. You'd never know what kind of a world Neverland is on this show until you see it.

The curse was designed to send him to a land without magic, not to find Bae. It fulfilled Regina's need to destroy everyone's happiness. What he discovered was that everyone was landed and stuck in a small town where he can't find anything about Bae, therefore he was headed to a wrong world. It was an epic failure. Besides, the actor playing 14-year-old Bae is NOT on the list of Tallahassee's guest stars. Neal is not Bae.

ElizaSparrow

Completely agree with everything you just said, eventhough I still think Neal could be Bae (without being Henry's father actually ^^) all you just said is what makes the most sense to me

I'm not sure yet about Regina/Archie but Daniel told her to love again, and so far Archie seems like the best person out there for her. I think a Therapist/patient relationship would be rather more interesting than another villain/villain relationship for Regina

Serenachan

What does that mean? I mean, what does it prove that 14 year old Bae in not in the episode? Of course he wouldn't be if Neal is Bae, because MRJ would be playing him

And have we already forgotten about the writers saying that there was a clue in Henry's clothes in the promo pics? Henry was wearing Bae's clothes

fox24

The curse brought Rumple back to the time when Bae was in his mid thirties it explains why Rumple thought August was Bae and August was in his mid thirties

Miss Cam

"Love again" doesn't have to be romantic love, though. There is Henry, who Regina clearly at least want to love as a son, but in her own words "don't remember how to love very well".

I would like to see Regina learn to care about others and not just Henry though, so I hope Archie can help with that. Look forward to more of their scenes. (Maybe Regina can adopt a dog and bring to their sessions - a dalmation named Perdita maybe? )

ElizaSparrow

This doesn't work because as it was said earlier Rumple told the Blue Fairy he didn't know who Bae was and not even how old he was. Also there is an interview in which Robert Carlyle clearly states that Rumple thought August was Bae because of how he was acting (trying to find more informations about him) so it had nothing to do with the age

OMG!!!! THIS I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Regina could also be Anita from "101 Dalmatians"

I do think in that context though that Daniel meant "romantic love" in a way to replace him ^^

Miss Cam

I was more thinking of Pongo needing a girlfriend-Dalmatian (he was in that Storybrooke dating service DVD extra), heh. But I suppose it would make a very interesting take on that story with Regina in Anita's role - heck, Cruella de Ville would not want to mess with Regina.

Daniel's comment is ambiguous enough that you can take it several ways, I guess. He could be talking about love in general, talking about loving him enough to let him go or that she should find someone new to love. Or maybe all three at once. Guess the future will tell where the show takes Regina.

ElizaSparrow

That's actually what I was thinking of... Mmmh... What would Regina's relationship be with Cruella de Ville? I think it would be fun that Regina would actually be the good one in that story! Though she would take no **** from Cruella knowing who she is

I agree with you about Daniel's comment I like to think he meant all 3 things though

Jamie Choate

Well hopefully tonight we'll have a clearer picture of things. I still think we'll be left with more questions and speculation than answers but hopefully they throw us a few more clues to work with.

I'm still wary of this. The writers are so clever about easter eggs and including clues in episodes that we sometimes don't even register them on first viewing. Who Henry's father is has been such a big mystery and something they've planned carefully that I can't believe they would just give it away in a promo picture like that. The casual viewer may not pay attention to such things but those of us online who inspect, speculate, and dissect every detail would pick that right out.

I expect ABC to give something away as they have done so before but the writers are more careful about what they give out. It's probably a losing battle but I'm still clinging to the hope that Neal isn't the father and that there is a twist still left.

celesstarr

I agree that the notion sounds ridiculous, but that is what Rumple found in his research for 300 years and we know this is what happened because Rumple told August he crossed time AND space. These are the LOST writers we're talking about and they like to play with notions of portals and time travel and such...

Rumple couldn't find hook because he didn't know that Hook used the magic bean and moreover didn't know Hook used it to go to Neverland specifically.

But Bae told rumple that the magic bean would be used to bring them to a land without magic where rumple could not use his powers. In S2 epi04 we discover that the curse was designed to bring rumple to the world that Bae was in and all rumple had to do was wait for the curse to be broken, right?

Kelaine

Er, speaking as a fan of Doctor Who and other time travel shows/stories, let me put out a theory on how it could work -

Think of each world as a stream. When you are in the stream, you are carried along by the current (time).

However, if you are OUTSIDE the stream, you can pick which point you enter it at (probably with certain limits or else it becomes an easy cop out when the plot gets too complicated).

The current and movement of one stream has no bearing on the current and movement of another. So, having been carried 300 years downriver in one stream doesn't mean that someone in another stream has gone any distance at all (turgid waters, what can I say?).

This theory assumes time is relatively constant once you're in a stream. That is, you can't easily go back in time in a world you have already entered. You either can't change past events or can't change them easily (since these are the Lost writers, I'm not betting against real time travel - plot altering kind of stuff - coming up, I'm just not worrying about it yet).

Or, if it's easier, think of the fairy tales where someone spends years in on world only to find no time has passed in the realy world - or the other way around. The amount of time passing in FTL doesn't have anything to do with time in our world.

Snow White, for example, had her adventures within about three years of coming to our world - but her story has been told in our world for centuries. Obviously, the times between worlds don't match up.

Lutesse

^ I like this explanation.

ღMitra

lol...I actually did forget about that! There is no doubt in my mind that Henry's father is Baelfire...there's just no way lol. Unless they're trying to make something so obvious with their hints, to make something out to be a surprise, but somehow I don't think that's the case. To me, the writers decided on making Baelfire Henry's father because it ties the story in nicely together. It all comes around full circle. I personally like it, but that's just me.

Magic Mirror

Excellent point. I can't believe I forgot about the fact that the fairy tale stories preceded Storybrooke's creation by centuries in our world, so this whole time comparison between FTL and our world has no basis. Time doesn't work in the same way in FTL vs. our reality, and the clocks in FTL don't "tick" at the same rate as in our world.

You can even look at the weird effect of the Curse on time in Storybrooke--frozen for 28 years! It's pretty clear "magical time" and "real time" are not comparable or commensurable.