[sum1]

Which question?

[Cryostar]

about your long post and my answer

[sum1]

You should do longer posts.

[dukesmom]

Cleaning out my DVR queue this weekend and watched something called The Norliss Tapes. Had no idea it was intended as a pilot back in 1973 so was very surprised at the end when there were a lot (lots and lots and lots) of unanswered questions. The vampire was not like a "traditional" vampire in that he was not created by another vampire. This one was a man who died but made a deal to wear the Osiris Scarab ring and it would allow him to rise from the dead and create a sculpture of a demon that would cross over when it was complete. He did kill a few people and drain them of blood, but he did not drink the blood - he mixed it with the clay to make the sculpture.

[Cryostar]

Hrm....sounds more Golemesque to me.

Sum, why should I do longer posts?

[sum1]

Because it's better for real conversation. Like I bring up lots of thiings in a post and you only address one of them and briefly at that.

I watched an 80s comedy vampire movie called Once Bitten. It was quite likable despite having Jim Carrey in the main role. Karen Kopins was really likable and sexy. Apparently she married her high school sweetheart in 1990 and they're still together and have 4 kids. Apparently she was Miss Connecticut in 1977. Finally, a beauty queen who deserves her crown.

[Melissa Ann]

Based on a lot of the new vampire book series' that have come out in the past 15 years, what are some of the vampire laws you find odd? (e.g. Twilight vampires sparkle)

[Cryostar]

I vaguely remember that movie. It wasn't bad.

Oh, there are too many rules to count. I always found it perplexing that people had to give vampires "dark gifts" a la anne rice. Because superhuman speed/reflexes/strength and immortality isn't enough.

Speaking of vampires, Marvel Comics is starting a Vampire event this summer. A revolt, if you will

[Melissa Ann]

One vampire trait that is most well-known is that when subjescted to sunlight they burn to ash.

But I really liked the edge/change given to that aspect in the short-lived TV show "Moonlight" starring Alex O'Loughlin and Sophia Myles.

The change was it didn't kill then outright but weakened them to the point of death. If they did not feed in time then they would die as if being completely dehydrated.

[sum1]

Originally Posted by Melika (View Post) One vampire trait that is most well-known is that when subjescted to sunlight they burn to ash.

But that was not always part of the story. Vampires being killed by sunlight started with the 1922 German silent film Nosferatu. Dracula in the novel could walk around in sunlight with no harm coming to him. Various modern fictions other than Moonlight have allowed vampires to walk around in sunlight, such as Being Human and Kindred The Embraced. Not to mention Twilight.

Originally Posted by Cryostar (View Post) I vaguely remember that movie. It wasn't bad.

It didn't do well at the box office and was overshadowed by its rival Fright Night, which is a highly overrated film, mediocre stuff.

[Melissa Ann]

But that was not always part of the story. Vampires being killed by sunlight started with the 1922 German silent film Nosferatu. Dracula in the novel could walk around in sunlight with no harm coming to him. Various modern fictions other than Moonlight have allowed vampires to walk around in sunlight, such as Being Human and Kindred The Embraced. Not to mention Twilight.

I agree. But my point is it's one of the most well known ways a vampire can die.

A lot of modern fiction do allow differences in that aspect, like Blade as well.

I honestly have not heard of "Being Human" or "Kindred the Embraced". Are they novels or movies?

To expand this topic:

Another aspect to vampirism that has been making it's way into the mainstream is that not all vampires are human blood drinkers, and a common term for those who only drink animal blood (Twilight) are vegetarians.

I've also seen those, like in Moonlight, where they pay a guy to get blood from hospitals and such.

Third comment to expand topic:

Again, I go to Twilight for this, because I don't recall many others who have done this, but their vampires don't require fangs, as their venom stuns their victim.

It was actually sort of refreshing to see how evolved the idea of a vampire has come.

[sum1]

Originally Posted by Melika (View Post) I agree. But my point is it's one of the most well known ways a vampire can die. A lot of modern fiction do allow differences in that aspect, like Blade as well. I honestly have not heard of "Being Human" or "Kindred the Embraced". Are they novels or movies? To expand this topic: Another aspect to vampirism that has been making it's way into the mainstream is that not all vampires are human blood drinkers, and a common term for those who only drink animal blood (Twilight) are vegetarians. I've also seen those, like in Moonlight, where they pay a guy to get blood from hospitals and such. Third comment to expand topic: Again, I go to Twilight for this, because I don't recall many others who have done this, but their vampires don't require fangs, as their venom stuns their victim. It was actually sort of refreshing to see how evolved the idea of a vampire has come.

Vampires that don't prey on live humans go back a good ways. There was a Marvel comics character (started in the 70s) called Hannibal King, who was a vampire detective (long before Moonlight, Forever Knight or Angel) and he fed on blood that he bought or stole from blood banks or fed on corpses or animals. He didn't feed on living humans. In the 90s, Nick Knight refrained from drinking human blood when possible. And Angel survived on animal blood.

I honestly have not heard of "Being Human" or "Kindred the Embraced". Are they novels or movies?

Neither.

Vampires without fangs are lame. Vampires need fangs. It's part of the image. Plus it's rather useful for opening throats. Venom won't open a throat.

In Twilight, is it just the Cullen clan who don't drink human blood or are there other vampires out there like that?

[Melissa Ann]

Originally Posted by sum1 (View Post) Vampires that don't prey on live humans go back a good ways. There was a Marvel comics character (started in the 70s) called Hannibal King, who was a vampire detective (long before Moonlight, Forever Knight or Angel) and he fed on blood that he bought or stole from blood banks or fed on corpses or animals. He didn't feed on living humans. In the 90s, Nick Knight refrained from drinking human blood when possible. And Angel survived on animal blood. Neither. Vampires without fangs are lame. Vampires need fangs. It's part of the image. Plus it's rather useful for opening throats. Venom won't open a throat. In Twilight, is it just the Cullen clan who don't drink human blood or are there other vampires out there like that?

The vampire characters you've mentioned are from comics or grapoc novels and I am not familiar with the comic/graphic novel aspect of vampires.

As for your question regarding Twilight, there are others who choose not to drink human blood. But it is important to the Cullen family because they don't feel right in taking a life or feeding on humans because it causes them harm.

I think with the modern vampire ideals, my favourite take on the genre is True Blood.

[Melissa Ann]

Originally Posted by sum1 (View Post) Vampires that don't prey on live humans go back a good ways. There was a Marvel comics character (started in the 70s) called Hannibal King, who was a vampire detective (long before Moonlight, Forever Knight or Angel) and he fed on blood that he bought or stole from blood banks or fed on corpses or animals. He didn't feed on living humans. In the 90s, Nick Knight refrained from drinking human blood when possible. And Angel survived on animal blood. Neither. Vampires without fangs are lame. Vampires need fangs. It's part of the image. Plus it's rather useful for opening throats. Venom won't open a throat. In Twilight, is it just the Cullen clan who don't drink human blood or are there other vampires out there like that?

The vampire characters you've mentioned are from comics or grapoc novels and I am not familiar with the comic/graphic novel aspect of vampires.

As for your question regarding Twilight, there are others who choose not to drink human blood. But it is important to the Cullen family because they don't feel right in taking a life or feeding on humans because it causes them harm.

I think with the modern vampire ideals, my favourite take on the genre is True Blood.

[sum1]

Originally Posted by Melika (View Post) The vampire characters you've mentioned are from comics or grapoc novels and I am not familiar with the comic/graphic novel aspect of vampires.

The only character I mentioned who was from comics or graphic novels was Hannibal King. No other character or story I mentioned was from comics or graphic novels.

As for your question regarding Twilight, there are others who choose not to drink human blood. But it is important to the Cullen family because they don't feel right in taking a life or feeding on humans because it causes them harm.

Thank you.

I think with the modern vampire ideals, my favourite take on the genre is True Blood.

True Blood is a great show.