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So my parents won't be able to use this either. Once I really explained my mother the dimensions of this thing she realized that she has nowhere to put it in the house either .

So I called this morning the courier company and I am waiting for them to come to pick this up. And we will see what would happen.
You are returning for a refund?
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I sometimes take for granted how nice and peaceful this board is, and I’m very grateful that it is.

I’m temporarily moderating the Spoilers board and my memory is being refreshed on how different shippers of different couples like to snipe at each other! LOL!
Wow, Jerry! I hope you don't have too many issues as moderator in that board. Do you have someone to help you? Also for how long will you be also moderator?
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You are returning for a refund?
Yes, I hope so. If everything is OK they have to return the whole price I paid in my bank account. Fingers crossed that it will happen .

So how was this work week for you? I know you had some appointments and meetings. How did they go?
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Awesome that you enjoyed them equally! As far as friendship goes was Harry closer to Ron or Hermione?
Both. I would say Ron is Harry's best guy friend and Hermione is Harry's best girl friend. They are equally as close and together, the Trio is beyond close too even if Ron/Hermione were developing romantically too. Also, in the end, when Harry married Ginny and Ron married Hermione, they all became a true family too which was so neat.

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Night and day. Their physical looks are different, the personalities even slightly are different. It's just not even close. It's humorous, really. Ron/Hermione were pretty good in the films but then again, the directors/producers were in love with Emma Watson and as a result. Rupert was bumped in favor of Emma in many instances even though Rupert is by far the best actor out of the younger actors. They literally had Hermione saying Ron's lines. It was so weird. Harry/Ginny have an Ephram/Amy type of Soulmate bond... you would NEVER know that in the movies. It's a joke, really. Rowling masters the relationships delicately in the books so beautifully. I laugh when people think Harry/Hermione are better romantically and they've only watched the films... LOL They are literally cheering for a sibling pairing since that's what they are in the books! Slightly makes me sick while laughing.

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Wow, Jerry! I hope you don't have too many issues as moderator in that board. Do you have someone to help you? Also for how long will you be also moderator?
I'll be moderating that board for a month. One of the regular moderators is there, but the other one is traveling for a month, so I'm helping out there.

Moderating the Spoilers board is different from moderating most other boards here in that you don't have to lead discussions but you need to establish a moderator presence in the threads so they don't get out of hand. There are only a few volatile threads, like the Arrow thread, the Once Upon A Time thread, The Flash thread, and the Supergirl thread, and from what I've seen so far only a few people take shots at each other.
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Btw Firefox just updated and currently the tabs bar is so hideous. It's some dark blue/black color that just annoys my eyes.
I hate the new tabs bar in the updated Firefox too.
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I'll be moderating that board for a month. One of the regular moderators is there, but the other one is traveling for a month, so I'm helping out there.
So how did you decide to take this offer? I know that there is Moderator support group that usually takes care of stuff like that. I hope that they don't bother you a lot!

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I hope that it is fairly calm during the month you have to moderate. I am also sure that you being Administrator would motivate people to keep up the good tone and atmosphere. And if not you could always take them down .
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I hate the new tabs bar in the updated Firefox too.
Right? It's so annoying. I am waiting for a few days so that people could find a way to get rid of this. It's still rather new so I don't expect any information now.
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Both. I would say Ron is Harry's best guy friend and Hermione is Harry's best girl friend. They are equally as close and together, the Trio is beyond close too even if Ron/Hermione were developing romantically too. Also, in the end, when Harry married Ginny and Ron married Hermione, they all became a true family too which was so neat.
Makes sense . So are both couples married? And if yes which was the first wedding?

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Night and day. Their physical looks are different, the personalities even slightly are different. It's just not even close. It's humorous, really. Ron/Hermione were pretty good in the films but then again, the directors/producers were in love with Emma Watson and as a result. Rupert was bumped in favor of Emma in many instances even though Rupert is by far the best actor out of the younger actors. They literally had Hermione saying Ron's lines. It was so weird. Harry/Ginny have an Ephram/Amy type of Soulmate bond... you would NEVER know that in the movies. It's a joke, really. Rowling masters the relationships delicately in the books so beautifully. I laugh when people think Harry/Hermione are better romantically and they've only watched the films... LOL They are literally cheering for a sibling pairing since that's what they are in the books! Slightly makes me sick while laughing.
So I guess it explains why people who have watched only the movies actually have no idea about the essence of Harry Potter and basically the focal relationships (both romantic and friends wise).

How many Harry Potter movies there are and is there some that you like more compared to the others? I get that you don't think that the movies are good in general. I think that it is a rare case where the movie is better than the book. As a rule the books are always better.

What sucks is that I can't read books that much. It causes eye strain for me. Plus I hate reading pages of describing stuff . Like literally find this complete borefest. Now science books I love to read. Only facts and no essence, no descriptive pages .

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Makes sense . So are both couples married? And if yes which was the first wedding?
This is what it says (wiki) and Rowling has also mentioned it in interviews, books, Pottermore as well so I know wiki is accurate because it is taken right from Rowling:

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So I guess it explains why people who have watched only the movies actually have no idea about the essence of Harry Potter and basically the focal relationships (both romantic and friends wise).
Yes, 100%. If you've only watched the movies, you honestly have no idea what the Harry Potter Book Series is truly all about. You're missing the essence, precisely.

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There are 8 movies with the 7/8 covering the last book.

I guess my favorites are the first two because they actually follow the main mystery fairly nicely. The third movie is when things go all crazy not only with the main mystery and leaving so much out, but the characters turn weird and not accurate either.

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What sucks is that I can't read books that much. It causes eye strain for me. Plus I hate reading pages of describing stuff . Like literally find this complete borefest. Now science books I love to read. Only facts and no essence, no descriptive pages .
This is why I couldn't see you in Ravenclaw, haha. Ravenclaw's have books attached to us, every kind of book you could imagine... like, painted on us.

I do wonder what you'd think about the Harry Potter Series though. It takes you into a different world. I wonder if you'd make an exception because it's really compelling.

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This is what it says (wiki) and Rowling has also mentioned it in interviews, books, Pottermore as well so I know wiki is accurate because it is taken right from Rowling:
So basically both couples marry around the same year. Though there is some speculation that Harry/Ginny got married by influence from their friends (presumably Hermione and Ron are the once being referenced).

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Yes, 100%. If you've only watched the movies, you honestly have no idea what the Harry Potter Book Series is truly all about. You're missing the essence, precisely.
Do you think that there are a lot of fans of the movies that have not read the books?
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There are 8 movies with the 7/8 covering the last book.
So there are enough movies. I was wondering it is just one/two and this is why they had to omit specific stories from the book.

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I guess my favorites are the first two because they actually follow the main mystery fairly nicely. The third movie is when things go all crazy not only with the main mystery and leaving so much out, but the characters turn weird and not accurate either.
Who would you say was the least accurate character personality wise in the movie?
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This is why I couldn't see you in Ravenclaw, haha. Ravenclaw's have books attached to us, every kind of book you could imagine... like, painted on us.
I like to read when it gives me something. I love to learn new things so I love to read any science books or any subject related books. I do not like fiction for few reasons:

1. Quite often they are too descriptive to the point where it distracts from the story itself. I don't care to read a page about some scenery. I am not there and I won't go there. It does not add to my experience as a reader. It does distract me however. I have developed a system where I easily spot on the dialogue and basically omit all those moments in the books
2. In a lot of cases the characters are not fleshed out enough
3. In a lot of cases there is drama that is a bit artificial meaning that in real life it would not make sense
4. In a lot of cases the main mystery is not carried on properly. Instead of having direction, it's just random stuff that need AHA moment in the last chapter to make sense.
5. In a lot of cases the motivation of the bad guys is totally lacking
6. In a lot of cases the dialogue is not authentic and not how people actually converse in real life
7. Huge gripe is the way authors make artificial words. Things just don't add up and don't make sense. Even if a writer comes up with their own world, this world has rules and those rules need to be laid out very well and to make sense. In most cases this is not done and the rules of the world are changed for the sake of drama which goes in point 3.

Also in general I do not like reading about drama. Mystery and sci fi world (but done properly so without the issues in point 7) I could enjoy. Drama? No. I can't take in real life, let alone in books .

In other words I can be very bad critic when it comes to fiction books. Well both movies and books. However movies waste 90 minutes of my time while books require more time. And then I am math person. I am very to the point person. On top of that I spot problems like no one else. It's why I never read books for school. Not only they were boring as hell, but they also had issues. I do believe that we need to know how to defend argument and a point we want to make, but most of the old literature is not interesting for me. I can't find characters to relate to and the story itself does not translate well in our day to day life now.
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It depends. Like I said I could read it diagonally skipping most of the descriptive details and checking for logistics of the world she created. But in books like that I would spend my time tearing apart indeed the world in the book trying to see if it is consistent . And if I find that something does not make sense I can't complete the book because it annoys me and it diminishes my pleasure for reading.

To be honest though there are only few fiction book that I have read quite fast. Meaning 450 pages for 2 days. And this was a book about the Greek mythology. The other book was Iliad where unlike most people I loved Achilles. I even wrote a paper on it why I actually found him the most compelling character in that poem. I don't know if you read Iliad, but I think that you will hate Achilles . You would have loved Hector though. I remember everyone in my class liked Hector and I was like all Achilles. And then we had literature exam and there were two groups. One had to write about Hector, the other about Achilles. I was in the second group and was like the only one being happy about this . The others did not like him at all .
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So basically both couples marry around the same year. Though there is some speculation that Harry/Ginny got married by influence from their friends (presumably Hermione and Ron are the once being referenced).
Yes, Harry/Ginny got married sooner which makes sense because they were in a romantic relationship in book 6. So they experienced the relationship and how meant to be they were. Harry broke up with her after Dumbledore died and he knew he had to kill Lord Voldemort. He knew he had to stop Voldemort and thus, kind of pushed her away romantically. He was trying to protect her which is funny because Ginny was tough as nails and didn't need protecting. She was a strong Witch. Hermione was the smartest Witch of their generation and Ginny was the strongest Witch of their generation as far as spells and wand work. Ginny also played professional Quidditch for a living before she and Harry decided to have children.

Harry/Ginny broke up at the end of book 6, but then in book 7 before he went off to finally stop Voldemort they had romantic moments too... they kissed, there was emotional/romantic stuff flying around them whenever they saw each other. Book 7 they were basically on hold is how I see it because they reunited right after the final war was won. We didn't SEE it. We just know that since they married and had children in the Epilogue which we did see/hear about.

Ron/Hermione, didn't finally do something about their romantic feelings until the final war, which was around the end of book 7. So Ron/Hermione, lol. They danced around each other, strongly bantered and bickered, lol, got jealous when they were near other people in a romantic way or potential romantic way... Harry/Ginny, everyone knew they had to get together romantically, lol. Finally, in a heated moment Ron kissed Hermione. It was really cool. Harry's all, "WTF, there's a war going on, finally you go there, now?"

So yes, just based on the above... Harry/Ginny were more evolved romantically at the end of present time in book 7 as far as romantically which makes sense they'd marry a bit sooner than Ron/Hermione.

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So there are enough movies. I was wondering it is just one/two and this is why they had to omit specific stories from the book.
Yes, there are a lot of fans of the movies that haven't read the books... some of these people are loud and obnoxious to say that least. They truly believe they understand the Harry Potter Series and say things as fact when more times as not, it was something made up in the books, lol. It wouldn't be a problem if they separated and talked about what happened "in the movies" but they try to pass it off as the real deal, books included. If these people actually read the books they'd realize how ridiculous they sound. Oh well, lol.

There's a good amount of time to get in the main themes in the movies but sometimes that didn't always happen and like I said, characters and pairings were often inaccurate too.

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Who would you say was the least accurate character personality wise in the movie?
Emma Watson as Hermione. It's... not even close.

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I like to read when it gives me something. I love to learn new things so I love to read any science books or any subject related books. I do not like fiction for few reasons:

1. Quite often they are too descriptive to the point where it distracts from the story itself. I don't care to read a page about some scenery. I am not there and I won't go there. It does not add to my experience as a reader. It does distract me however. I have developed a system where I easily spot on the dialogue and basically omit all those moments in the books
2. In a lot of cases the characters are not fleshed out enough
3. In a lot of cases there is drama that is a bit artificial meaning that in real life it would not make sense
4. In a lot of cases the main mystery is not carried on properly. Instead of having direction, it's just random stuff that need AHA moment in the last chapter to make sense.
5. In a lot of cases the motivation of the bad guys is totally lacking
6. In a lot of cases the dialogue is not authentic and not how people actually converse in real life
7. Huge gripe is the way authors make artificial words. Things just don't add up and don't make sense. Even if a writer comes up with their own world, this world has rules and those rules need to be laid out very well and to make sense. In most cases this is not done and the rules of the world are changed for the sake of drama which goes in point 3.

Also in general I do not like reading about drama. Mystery and sci fi world (but done properly so without the issues in point 7) I could enjoy. Drama? No. I can't take in real life, let alone in books .

In other words I can be very bad critic when it comes to fiction books. Well both movies and books. However movies waste 90 minutes of my time while books require more time. And then I am math person. I am very to the point person. On top of that I spot problems like no one else. It's why I never read books for school. Not only they were boring as hell, but they also had issues. I do believe that we need to know how to defend argument and a point we want to make, but most of the old literature is not interesting for me. I can't find characters to relate to and the story itself does not translate well in our day to day life now.


It depends. Like I said I could read it diagonally skipping most of the descriptive details and checking for logistics of the world she created. But in books like that I would spend my time tearing apart indeed the world in the book trying to see if it is consistent . And if I find that something does not make sense I can't complete the book because it annoys me and it diminishes my pleasure for reading.

To be honest though there are only few fiction book that I have read quite fast. Meaning 450 pages for 2 days. And this was a book about the Greek mythology. The other book was Iliad where unlike most people I loved Achilles. I even wrote a paper on it why I actually found him the most compelling character in that poem. I don't know if you read Iliad, but I think that you will hate Achilles . You would have loved Hector though. I remember everyone in my class liked Hector and I was like all Achilles. And then we had literature exam and there were two groups. One had to write about Hector, the other about Achilles. I was in the second group and was like the only one being happy about this . The others did not like him at all .
LOL Makes sense.

I like both fiction and non-fiction for different reasons. The main reason I love fiction though is due to introversion. I like that a good fiction book will take me to a different world that I can disappear in. TV doesn't do that for me enough. Non-fiction doesn't either. I like to escape reality with the introversion and even psychic/empath stuff. I love being able to pick up a book and just travel to the setting/story and exist there for as long as I want to. Fiction does this for me. LEGO does as well. I can escape to that LEGO World and love it.
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I'll be moderating that board for a month. One of the regular moderators is there, but the other one is traveling for a month, so I'm helping out there.

Moderating the Spoilers board is different from moderating most other boards here in that you don't have to lead discussions but you need to establish a moderator presence in the threads so they don't get out of hand. There are only a few volatile threads, like the Arrow thread, the Once Upon A Time thread, The Flash thread, and the Supergirl thread, and from what I've seen so far only a few people take shots at each other.
Man I always feel sorry for the mods of that board. Is Nikki still a mod there?
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Yes she is. She's been there forever. She's away right now so I'm helping out.
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Yes, Harry/Ginny got married sooner which makes sense because they were in a romantic relationship in book 6. So they experienced the relationship and how meant to be they were. Harry broke up with her after Dumbledore died and he knew he had to kill Lord Voldemort. He knew he had to stop Voldemort and thus, kind of pushed her away romantically. He was trying to protect her which is funny because Ginny was tough as nails and didn't need protecting. She was a strong Witch. Hermione was the smartest Witch of their generation and Ginny was the strongest Witch of their generation as far as spells and wand work. Ginny also played professional Quidditch for a living before she and Harry decided to have children.

Harry/Ginny broke up at the end of book 6, but then in book 7 before he went off to finally stop Voldemort they had romantic moments too... they kissed, there was emotional/romantic stuff flying around them whenever they saw each other. Book 7 they were basically on hold is how I see it because they reunited right after the final war was won. We didn't SEE it. We just know that since they married and had children in the Epilogue which we did see/hear about.

Ron/Hermione, didn't finally do something about their romantic feelings until the final war, which was around the end of book 7. So Ron/Hermione, lol. They danced around each other, strongly bantered and bickered, lol, got jealous when they were near other people in a romantic way or potential romantic way... Harry/Ginny, everyone knew they had to get together romantically, lol. Finally, in a heated moment Ron kissed Hermione. It was really cool. Harry's all, "WTF, there's a war going on, finally you go there, now?"

So yes, just based on the above... Harry/Ginny were more evolved romantically at the end of present time in book 7 as far as romantically which makes sense they'd marry a bit sooner than Ron/Hermione.



Yes, there are a lot of fans of the movies that haven't read the books... some of these people are loud and obnoxious to say that least. They truly believe they understand the Harry Potter Series and say things as fact when more times as not, it was something made up in the books, lol. It wouldn't be a problem if they separated and talked about what happened "in the movies" but they try to pass it off as the real deal, books included. If these people actually read the books they'd realize how ridiculous they sound. Oh well, lol.

There's a good amount of time to get in the main themes in the movies but sometimes that didn't always happen and like I said, characters and pairings were often inaccurate too.

Emma Watson as Hermione. It's... not even close.
The Harry and Ginny romance was barely hinted at in the movies, and the Ron and Hermione was shown a little but not a lot. I really need to read the books!

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