Star Wars - Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker #2: It's an instinct, a feeling. The force brought us together. [SPOILERS]

Karma Police · 12-23-2019, 10:05 AM

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crash landing · 12-23-2019, 12:00 PM

Thanks for the new thread

**BehrItAll** · 12-25-2019, 03:46 PM

Well ... what did I think of this expensive fan fiction? It was way better than The Last Jedi. Still I like The Force Awakens a bit better. Only because the ending of The Rise of Skywalker was very long and drawn out. I was getting frustrated and looking at my watch. There were parts I enjoyed but there are some plot holes, in my opinion, and inconsistent aspects. I miss George Lucas. His films were consistent with each other. This Sequel Trilogy (I am calling it the Fan Fiction Trilogy) feels like a mish mosh of 3 different films. The makers should have sat down and planned it all out from the get go. Not each director/writer doing their own thing. It truly feels like J.J. Abrams started his own movie, then Rian Johnson did his own thing completely off course, and then Abrams went back to finish his own story.

I am going to break this up into things I liked, things I disliked and things I hated it.

Spoiler:

I am so glad this mess is over. (I would love to know what were George's plans for 7, 8, and 9.)

I am sticking to the Original and Prequel Trilogies, and Rogue One. Solo wasn't bad either. *Next I'll check out The Mandalorian and rewatch The Clone Wars.

crash landing · 12-27-2019, 03:08 PM

Hoping soon to watch this

Rewatching the first 2 but it’s going slowly where hoping this weekend

***Jerry D*** · 12-28-2019, 12:44 PM

I saw the new movie on Christmas. I enjoyed watching it but I found it confusing and a bit of a mess.

crash landing · 12-28-2019, 12:46 PM

Think overall that’s been much of what people are saying

hope to watch it soon, next week

**wickedrum** · 12-28-2019, 02:07 PM

I'd give it 7/10. Can't give it more cause I'm a bit bias and so not happy they've killed off my boy.

**BehrItAll** · 12-28-2019, 02:18 PM

I'd give it a 4 out of 10.
And I don't even rank it with the others because it's just so fan fiction-y.

**BehrItAll** · 12-29-2019, 02:12 PM

The Rise of Skywalker writer explains why Kelly Marie Tran had a reduced role

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A writer on The Rise of Skywalker is explaining the film’s handling of a character that some say was shortchanged in the new Star Wars film.

Chris Terrio, who co-wrote the movie with director J.J. Abrams, was asked about the lack of screen time for Kelly Marie Tran’s character Rose Tico. The Resistance engineer was introduced in Rian Johnson’s The Last Jedi where she had a major role in the film, but — spoiler alert — Tico spent The Rise of Skywalker back at the base and didn’t have many lines.

Terrio told Awards Daily that he and Abrams “adore” Tran and that the character’s role was originally more significant. Tran shot scenes where the character interacts with General Leia Organa, whose performance was created using Carrie Fisher’s deleted scenes from The Force Awaken. But the team ran into post-production difficulties making the Tico-Leia scenes believable.

“One of the reasons that Rose has a few less scenes than we would like her to have has to do with the difficulty of using Carrie Fisher’s footage in the way we wanted to,” Terrio told Awards Daily. “We wanted Rose to be the anchor at the rebel base who was with Leia. We thought we couldn’t leave Leia at the base without any of the principals who we love, so Leia and Rose were working together … As the process evolved, a few scenes we’d written with Rose and Leia turned out to not meet the standard of photorealism that we’d hoped for. Those scenes, unfortunately, fell out of the film.”

Terrio added: “The last thing we were doing was deliberately trying to sideline Rose. We adore the character, and we adore Kelly — so much so that we anchored her with our favorite person in this galaxy, General Leia.”

Tran also had at least one scene cut with Rey (Daisy Ridley), as seen in this pre-release promotional photo:

Tico’s role in The Last Jedi was heralded as the first major Star Wars role for an Asian actress. While many praised Tran’s inclusion and performance in Last Jedi, the actress was also subject to racist and sexist attacks online, which began even before that film was shown. Tran wrote an op-ed for the New York Times about the experience, noting that the bullying “reinforced a narrative I had heard my whole life: that I was ‘other’, that I didn’t belong, that I wasn’t good enough, simply because I wasn’t like them.” So Tran having such a slight role in the new film was considered at best unfortunate given the history, and at worst pandering to her attackers.

Tran’s fans have been protesting film with the hashtag campaign #RoseTicoDeservedBetter, spearheaded by Crazy Rich Asians director Jon M. Chu, who has offered to direct a Star Wars series about Tico if Disney Plus were to get on board.

crash landing · 12-29-2019, 02:17 PM

Glad that they addressed the lack of Rose and what they say about her/Leia makes sense

would believe it would have been near impossible working wth old footage related to Leia

**BehrItAll** · 12-29-2019, 02:35 PM

But also, why not give her something else to do? Why box her in at the base? Someone said why not have her go into 3PO's head to get the translation? Why did they have to go to Babu Frik?

I am posting this here because it is RoS news but, it makes me

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker: Abrams says Anakin was the Chosen One but the balance wasn’t forever

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During a recent panel at the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker writer-director J.J. Abrams said that he considers Anakin Skywalker to be the Chosen One. But he thinks that bringing balance to the Force didn’t mean it was forever.

Click the link above to see the video.

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“This whole trilogy — this VII, VIII, and IX — is really about the generation that sort of follows the great generation and the idea of balance, bringing balance to The Force. Which is the whole point of the Chosen One Anakin in the original trilogy. What I love was the idea that balance brought to The Force doesn’t mean it’s forever. It’s not immediately everlasting. And I think the idea that if we are not careful, the ultimate evil will rise again. That we have to be proactive in doing what we can to maintain the balance, and how does the generation that follows the great generation do that.

And the idea that these two main characters, both the grandchildren of these crucially important characters of Palpatine and Skywalker — as [co-writer] Chris [Terrio] was saying, these two houses coming together in this next generation felt like there was an inevitability to it. And if one were to watch [Episodes] I through IX, you know, 50, 100 years from now, hopefully you feel that these stories were inevitably leading there.”

***Jerry D*** · 12-30-2019, 08:18 PM

Thanks for all of this information Steph!

Make Them Laugh · 12-31-2019, 01:20 PM

Happy New Year Jerry, Sarah and Tar

I just got back from Rise of Skywalker an hour or so ago... well, I generally liked it except for one scene

Spoiler:

was there any end credit scenes - I had to go the el bano really really bad - spanish for bathroom

OK...gonna look up speculation on my SP

Spoiler:

**BehrItAll** · 12-31-2019, 08:14 PM

WTF! Brother -sister! ?

Dude....That whole relationship is sick on many deferent levels.

This video is a great analysis of why I don't like The Rise of Skywalker and the Sequel Trilogy. So many excellent points made.

https://youtu.be/BD5mLw0A8vI

crash landing · 01-01-2020, 05:05 AM

Thanks for bringing that over

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