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a new hope 01-31-2016 07:58 AM

Kylo ♥ Rey [Adam | Daisy] #5 | "He believed the girl was all we needed."
 
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katlicious 01-31-2016 08:06 AM

Guys, what do you make of this:

http://starwarsnonsense.tumblr.com/p...poilers-awaken

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This post contains a potential spoiler for Star Wars Episode VIII - do not read on if you wish to go into Episode VIII completely fresh.
Okay, are you 100% sure that you want to read this? 110% sure?
If you are, delve beneath the cut.
I’ve heard a rumour - a very tentative rumour, mind you, but one that’s definitely worth discussing - that Adam Driver will be joining Mark Hamill and Daisy Ridley on location in Ireland for shooting later in the year (in August 2016). Location shooting in Ireland is taking place for the Ach-To sequences, aka. the sequences on Luke’s island. This is highly significant for several reasons:
1. It suggests that Luke, Rey and Kylo will share at least one scene together.
2. It suggests that Kylo may travel to Ach-To to retrieve Rey from Luke’s training. August 2016 would be right at the end of the location filming in Ireland (they actually filmed some location stuff in Ireland in 2015, but need to go back when the weather is better to finish filming), which implies Driver would only be present for the filming of the final scenes to take place at the location.
Personally, I find this rumour very exciting - there’s potential for massively intense and emotional drama with these three characters, and I really hope that the rumour is true. I’d love to see how Mark, Daisy and Adam play off each other.
I posted this is Reylo thread as opposed to Episode VIII because the source of the rumor is a Reylo fan so I don't know what to think. How reliable is this person? I checked her blog ( a very thoughtful, balanced intelligent blog) and she definitely doesn't strike me as a clickbaiter or liar but, again, that kind of info is something only industry people are privy to. Does anyone follow her blog or know more about her?

a new hope 01-31-2016 08:10 AM

I've never heard of the blog or her to be honest, so I really couldn't say how reliable it is, but it is something easy to make up and kind of generic information. I love the thought of it (the three of them together would be amazing to watch) but I'm not trusting the information 100%.

katlicious 01-31-2016 08:15 AM

I'm thinking that, if the info is true, there will be more than just Luke, Rey and KR. There will be KoR with him. The reason being, Episode VIII storyboard (link is in Ep VIII spoilers thread)
had Rey and Luke train in the rain. Rey's vision has KR kill a KoR in the rain. Hmmm.

Also, novleization says about that scene "lit by the firelight from the burning temple". We know that Luke was looking for First Jedi Temple.

Any thoughts?

a new hope 01-31-2016 08:18 AM

That does add up for sure :eek: I'm intrigued.

asterism 01-31-2016 12:11 PM

Hey, my name is Julia and I'm new to this forum. I'm a huge fan of TFA and I ship Reylo so I'd love to join in on the discussions here. I'm not sure if this has been posted but I'd like to share a fanvid here (it was not made by me). What makes this Reylo vid so unique is that the vidder used sound clips from the audiobook of the TFA novelization, specifically, Snoke's line to Kylo Ren about having compassion for 'the girl' (Rey). It's a must-watch, if you like this pairing.



The vidder said she might remake it once better footage of the movie is released. I feel like Snoke's line to Kylo Ren is so significant and I wish they had kept it in the movie.

katlicious 01-31-2016 12:26 PM

Love that one! I think they didn't keep Snoke's line in the movie cause they don't want to beat us over the head with KR's compassion and you could see it coming through from the performance.

I've noticed that Reylo community is mostly analyzing bridal carry and interrogation, cause they are alpha and omega of Reylo, but I'd like to hear more about:

a) KR's reaction when Rey's got the ligthsaber - he wasn't angry at all (unlike when Finn lit it up) but was a mix of awe and smitten. I just love his reaction here, he looked almost happy. Hmmmm.

b) the Force lock. I read few complaints that his waiting for her answer or whatever he did was stupid but I think that he just wanted to look at her. She's so beautiful and I don't think he was simply confident that she'd accept to be thought by him. I think he just couldn't take his eyes off her even when she was clearly tapping into the Force (he received some Jedi training so he knew what it meant when she whispered "the Force?" and then closed her eyes).

c) Ground opening with KR and Rey exchanging long look from opposite sides. She could have run away as soon as the groudn cracked but she didn't. She stood there and looked at him, while he was lying in the snow looking at her. Then she ran away but before Falcon took off, she posed at the door and looked back! She didn't have to look back but she did and you bet it was because of KR. I wish someone gif's that moment.

sum1 01-31-2016 01:10 PM

Welcome to the board, Julia. :)

katlicious 01-31-2016 02:27 PM

Do you think rey will unbraid her hair for KR so he can run his fingers through it? or let him unbraid it?

Also, they never called each other by their name.

asterism 01-31-2016 02:55 PM

Thank you, sum1!

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Originally Posted by katlicious (Post 84893218)
Love that one! I think they didn't keep Snoke's line in the movie cause they don't want to beat us over the head with KR's compassion and you could see it coming through from the performance.

True. I definitely feel like it came through in the performance and the way Kylo treats Rey vs. how he treats everyone else. The problem is that without outright stating it, it leaves things more open to interpretation and those who don't pay attention could miss it entirely.

For instance, it seemed to go over the heads of more casual movie fans. Like the people who complained that Rey was a Mary Sue and claimed she shouldn't have been able to defeat Kylo with no training whatsoever. A lot of them failed to pick up on the fact that Kylo wasn't even trying to kill her during that battle. He was just trying to subdue and recruit her. I feel that if Snoke's line about Kylo's compassion for her had been included it would have made the audience understand his actions better as well as the motivation behind them. If even his evil space boss is noticing his compassion for this girl and chastising him for it, it becomes more of a significant thing that even casual fans can pick up on.

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Originally Posted by katlicious (Post 84893218)
I've noticed that Reylo community is mostly analyzing bridal carry and interrogation, cause they are alpha and omega of Reylo, but I'd like to hear more about:

a) KR's reaction when Rey's got the ligthsaber - he wasn't angry at all (unlike when Finn lit it up) but was a mix of awe and smitten. I just love his reaction here, he looked almost happy. Hmmmm.

https://45.media.tumblr.com/c710792c...g2ujo1_500.gif

I wouldn't say he looked happy about it but he was definitely in awe of her. You could see on his face several instances throughout the movie how much she fascinated him. I also think it's significant to point out that he makes no move to attack her until she ignites her lightsaber. It's kind of a running theme with them. On Takodona when he went looking for her in the forest, she's the one who shot first (he even calls her on it during the interrogation scene "You still want to kill me?" though I think his line in the novelization is better: "You would kill me. Knowing nothing about me.")

When he confronts her and Finn in the snowy forest, she's the one who attacks first by trying to shoot him which is why he force pushes her away in self-defense. It's just very interesting that their interactions are framed this way and it highlights his hesitance around her.

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Originally Posted by katlicious (Post 84893218)
b) the Force lock. I read few complaints that his waiting for her answer or whatever he did was stupid but I think that he just wanted to look at her. She's so beautiful and I don't think he was simply confident that she'd accept to be thought by him. I think he just couldn't take his eyes off her even when she was clearly tapping into the Force (he received some Jedi training so he knew what it meant when she whispered "the Force?" and then closed her eyes).

Agreed. The way he looks at her is just so intense and ultimately he didn't want to be fighting her at all. That was his olive branch moment and he seemed almost desperate that she accept and stop fighting him.

katlicious 01-31-2016 04:27 PM

Great post Asterism. Actually, this is his face right after Rey picks up the lightsaber:

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/phot...64-500-500.jpg

Gotta love suppressed dumb boyish grin.

I also noticed that he didn't beat on his wound when he was fighting Rey but he beat on it when he fought Finn and when he saw Rey and Finn. Interesting.

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The problem is that without outright stating it, it leaves things more open to interpretation and those who don't pay attention could miss it entirely.
Agreed though I think that they deliberately didn't want to overstate it for those who don't pay attention. That way, they get surprised when things turn out certain way later, while we who pay attention see organic development. Personally, I wish they included it just so that I don't have to lash out at "KR doesn't deserve redemption" crowd every time they make their dumb arguments that he doesn't care for Rey, isn't conflicted about killing Han, killed billions in cold blood and other nonsense that is their headcanon.

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Agreed. The way he looks at her is just so intense and ultimately he didn't want to be fighting her at all. That was his olive branch moment and he seemed almost desperate that she accept and stop fighting him.
Totally. Also, that scene is so damn sexy. Add some ooh and aaah audio or at least sound of heavy breathing and grunting and it plays like a sex scene.

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a new hope 01-31-2016 05:23 PM

Welcome asterism :hug: I'm taking the liberty of adding you to our shipper list :D

This discussion is great guys. I'm just too drunk right now to contribute :lol: But I'll say this: he never EVER wants her dead. That's a fact. He wants her by his side. He may want her unconscious, as a prisoner, etc, whatever sick thing villains do. But he never once wanted her killed, differently from the other "light siders". The connection is undeniable. I just hope the writers can handle it right as we move forward. I'm so afraid of Reylo being mishandled :(

katlicious 01-31-2016 05:42 PM

So, I rewatched key scenes just now and Force Bond is real folks. His glove is black when he starts interrogation but glows blue, really glows blue (palm area) when she starts fighting back. It is not a bad video effect, I confirmed it when I saw the movie for that reason alone, and now I noticed black glove/glowing glove thing. It happens when she begins to resist.

Also, when she taps into the Force she fights exactly like him. Circles around like he does, disarms with that one move that he always uses to disarm, plus uses brawl moves that are not typical for the Jedi. For example, he punched Finn in the face before slashing his back, while she kicked KR in the chest before slashing his face.

Yes, he never wanted to kill her, never aimed for her body but to deflect her stabbing moves that clearly went for the body (kill).

Also, she was waiting on the other side of the chasm and left when she was sure he was alright. Then she paused at the Falcon door and looked back.

It's the Force bond. Whether they take the stupid route and make them cousins, or take the right one and make her a Kenobi (cause every SW needs a Kenobi and union of Skywalker/Kenobi bloodlines would be incredible event) or non-legacy character, there's a bond. Strong bond.

Also, I'm almost 99% sure that KoR vision takes place on Luke's Ireland Planet. The terrain in the vision is full of rocks, those are not bodies on the ground or at least not all of them are bodies. It's just that the frequency of those things on the ground and how they are dispersed around seem like ground formations. It's hard to see even in the movie because it happens so fast. We'll know more in April when DVD and Blue Ray come out and people are able to pause and analyse frame by frame.

a new hope 01-31-2016 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by katlicious (Post 84897229)
So, I rewatched key scenes just now and Force Bond is real folks. His glove is black when he starts interrogation but glows blue, really glows blue (palm area) when she starts fighting back. It is not a bad video effect, I confirmed it when I saw the movie for that reason alone, and now I noticed black glove/glowing glove thing. It happens when she begins to resist.

Also, when she taps into the Force she fights exactly like him. Circles around like he does, disarms with that one move that he always uses to disarm, plus uses brawl moves that are not typical for the Jedi. For example, he punched Finn in the face before slashing his back, while she kicked KR in the chest before slashing his face.

Yes, he never wanted to kill her, never aimed for her body but to deflect her stabbing moves that clearly went for the body (kill).

Also, she was waiting on the other side of the chasm and left when she was sure he was alright. Then she paused at the Falcon door and looked back.

It's the Force bond. Whether they take the stupid route and make them cousins, or take the right one and make her a Kenobi (cause every SW needs a Kenobi and union of Skywalker/Kenobi bloodlines would be incredible event) or non-legacy character, there's a bond. Strong bond.

Also, I'm almost 99% sure that KoR vision takes place on Luke's Ireland Planet. The terrain in the vision is full of rocks, those are not bodies on the ground or at least not all of them are bodies. It's just that the frequency of those things on the ground and how they are dispersed around seem like ground formations. It's hard to see even in the movie because it happens so fast. We'll know more in April when DVD and Blue Ray come out and people are able to pause and analyse frame by frame.

**** I really need to watch it again :eek: Especially to see the blue glow. I also wanna pay extra attention to Rey's vision when she holds the saber.

I'm so behind... 01-31-2016 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by asterism (Post 84895342)
Thank you, sum1!



True. I definitely feel like it came through in the performance and the way Kylo treats Rey vs. how he treats everyone else. The problem is that without outright stating it, it leaves things more open to interpretation and those who don't pay attention could miss it entirely.

For instance, it seemed to go over the heads of more casual movie fans. Like the people who complained that Rey was a Mary Sue and claimed she shouldn't have been able to defeat Kylo with no training whatsoever. A lot of them failed to pick up on the fact that Kylo wasn't even trying to kill her during that battle. He was just trying to subdue and recruit her. I feel that if Snoke's line about Kylo's compassion for her had been included it would have made the audience understand his actions better as well as the motivation behind them. If even his evil space boss is noticing his compassion for this girl and chastising him for it, it becomes more of a significant thing that even casual fans can pick up on.

Hello asterism :wave:

I totally agree so much of what happened in this film was rather too subtle that so many interpreted the scenes the wrong way. It's kinda the film's flaw, but at the same time it was interesting that they went in such a direction.



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Originally Posted by asterism (Post 84895342)
https://45.media.tumblr.com/c710792c...g2ujo1_500.gif

I wouldn't say he looked happy about it but he was definitely in awe of her. You could see on his face several instances throughout the movie how much she fascinated him. I also think it's significant to point out that he makes no move to attack her until she ignites her lightsaber. It's kind of a running theme with them. On Takodona when he went looking for her in the forest, she's the one who shot first (he even calls her on it during the interrogation scene "You still want to kill me?" though I think his line in the novelization is better: "You would kill me. Knowing nothing about me.")

When he confronts her and Finn in the snowy forest, she's the one who attacks first by trying to shoot him which is why he force pushes her away in self-defense. It's just very interesting that their interactions are framed this way and it highlights his hesitance around her.



Agreed. The way he looks at her is just so intense and ultimately he didn't want to be fighting her at all. That was his olive branch moment and he seemed almost desperate that she accept and stop fighting him.

All of this is what makes Kylo Ren such a fascinating character to me. The struggle of light vs dark is always there and it comes out in a variety of interesting ways. I say in that gif he's become both confused and curious. You rarely see films where the villain is seen having that kind of conflict in his face. That Adam Driver man...amazing! :cool:


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