Star Wars - Anakin Skywalker | Hayden Christensen #15 - "Anakin wants more power and we want more Anakin!" - Page 14

**dracarys** · 04-03-2020, 09:47 PM

The older generation tend to steer clear of it even though people can only access internet banking if they have your customer number, password and mobile number

we also have been limiting bank hours as well which makes sense.

Oh btw has anyone seen Jumper? I feel like I have but I can't remember

**BehrItAll** · 04-05-2020, 10:13 AM

Yea, I feel like they do what they can to make it hard for thieves to get access. And now banks set up alerts for you when they think the account had been compromised.

I have seen Jumper! That was so good. I wish it did better so that they could have done sequels.

This tweet has a video showing that Vader's fighting style is different from Anakin's.

atwoodsmariano · 04-05-2020, 11:34 AM

I love Jumper too! Haven’t re-watched it in a while though

**BehrItAll** · 04-06-2020, 10:06 AM

Been a long time for me too.

I wanted to share this deep insight into Anakin that I saw on Tumblr.

Source: gffa

https://66.media.tumblr.com/99c0f716...ueftr3_540.jpg

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This comment reminded me of the above lines–which are literally like two minutes apart. One of the things that’s really well done about Anakin’s story that I think often gets passed off as “bad writing” is that Anakin is all over the place. He doesn’t have a strong stance about how he wants to be loyal to the Republic, he wants to blame the Jedi, he wants to do this for Padme, he loves her, he chokes her, he wants to create an Empire, he wants to follow Palpatine, he wants to overthrow Palpatine, he wants to follow Palpatine again, etc.

And I think THAT’S THE POINT. This is like how Hayden’s voice is not strong and clear and projecting well in his portrayal of Anakin because that, too, IS THE POINT. This is someone brittle and fragile and unstable, who is coming unhinged and you’re supposed to feel awkward and uncomfortable around him. When you listen to him, it’s not a **** YEAH villain moment, but the tragedy of someone crumbling into this horrible, awful tragedy.

This is someone who does not really believe what he’s saying, but he’s literally quoting Palpatine’s lies (“He’ll betray you just as he’s betrayed me.” / “You were right. The Jedi betrayed both of us.” - “The Sith are not afraid of the Dark Side of the Force.” / “I do not fear the Dark Side as you do.” - “Good is a point of view, Anakin. […] yet they are considered by the Jedi to be –” “Evil.” / “From my point of view, the Jedi are evil.”). This is someone who does not really believe in doing this for the Republic, but in a justification for the horrible things he’s done.

That’s why he goes from “I have brought peace to the Republic” to “I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new Empire” in the span of like two minutes, because it doesn’t really matter what he’s grasping for, just that he’s reaching for something, anything to justify the horrors he’s done, the children he’s murdered, the innocents he’s attacked, the loved ones he’s betrayed.

I think that lack of core central beliefs often gets written off as Anakin not being a clearly written character, when I think the truth is that he’s not supposed to have a clear, solid point of view. That, instead, we’re watching someone who is falling apart, who is scrambling to justify his horrible actions, who is coming unhinged in a really ugly, awful way and that is the point. Having him be coherent about his motivations would have taken away the heart of what was so awful and painful about his fall, what was so heartbreaking and tragic about his fall.

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thewillowbends replied:

It’s a fundamental character point. Anakin isn’t moved by abstracts. The system has never given him a reason to believe in it. His personal connections have always been the driving force in his life.

Anakin is someone who believes in the system with a big caveat–so long as it goes as he thinks it should.

ANAKIN: We need a system where the politicians sit down and discuss the problem… agree what’s in the best interest of all the people, and then do it.
PADME: That’s exactly what we do. The trouble is that people don’t always agree. ANAKIN: Well, then they should be made to.
PADME: By whom? Who’s gonna make them? You?
ANAKIN: I don’t know. Someone. Of course not me. But someone. Someone wise.

This is also one of his biggest problems with being a Jedi–which he wants to be, up to the very last moment, he wants to be a Jedi AND MORE–because they don’t do things the way he thinks they should. “The Jedi Code prevents them from going far enough to achieve victory, to do whatever it takes to win, the very reason why peacekeepers should not be leading a war. Have I offended you?” Tarkin says. “No. I’ve also found that we sometimes fall short of victory because of our methods,” Anakin replies.

And then as Darth Vader, of course, he is all about the system, because that’s what he’s always believed–that it should make people do the right thing, it should go far enough to actually solve this problem, whatever that takes, otherwise it’s not enough.

But that’s only half of Anakin, the other half is that those personal connections so very, very often supersede those beliefs. He has none has Darth Vader for two decades, and then Padme’s child supersedes the loyalty to the Emperor, but he still wants to make Luke a Sith, wants to rule over the system with him. He was willing to throw over the entire system for Padme because he wants to save her. But then he won’t throw away his desire to wield that replacement system (with her in charge, most likely) to run away with her, when she pleads with him to.

Anakin believes in the system, so long as it goes the way he thinks it should go, but he’s also willing to burn it all down, with whatever flimsy justification he needs to make, if it’s standing in his way. You’re absolutely right that Anakin isn’t moved by abstracts, he’s moved by tangible things–so long as those tangible things go the way he wants them to go and do what he wants them to do!

**dracarys** · 04-06-2020, 11:40 PM

Thanks so much for sharing that character analysis of Anakin, I always assumed that Anakin's speeches in these prequels were badly written as his voice was always shaky or unsure. It never occurred to me that this could be intentional so that viewers could see that he was not in the right state of mind when he did all those horrible things.

**BehrItAll** · 04-08-2020, 11:21 AM

Glad to share.

Yea, people give Hayden and George a lot of criticism, but I totally think it was intentional.

The Dark Side has truly clouded his mind and he's all over the place. I like that evidence of instability.

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color meme: @itmakesmonstersofusall requested Anakin Skywalker + spring colors

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**dracarys** · 04-09-2020, 09:47 PM

I don't ever think he was ever sure about where he stood which ended up making him emotionally unstable. The only thing he was sure of was that he loved Padme.

atwoodsmariano · 04-09-2020, 11:33 PM

I think Palpatine definitely took advantage of his vulnerable state and emotionally manipulated him

**BehrItAll** · 04-11-2020, 10:38 AM

Oh TOTALLY! On both statements.

He was so focused on saving Padmé that he didn't even stop to think, "How would a chancellor know a Sith legend?"

And Palpatine knew exactly how to play his fears against him. He is a master manipulator. He fooled an entire galaxy and the Jedi Order.

**dracarys** · 04-11-2020, 09:47 PM

That's true, he really did have a charismatic personality that everyone was fooled by.

**BehrItAll** · 04-12-2020, 02:30 PM

Those pesky Sith politicians!

More deep thoughts about Anakin: Source: padawanlost

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anonymous asked:

For people who say Anakin's I hate sand line is utter crap, consider this. When is the last time you were able to even form a coherent sentence around someone you were romantically interested? It's hard, you don't want your crush to know a) how you feel or b) embarrass yourself. Anakin was probs going through that too!

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padawanlost answered:
Especially when that person also happens to look exactly like Natalie Portman

I love the “sand memes” as much as the next person, but in a serious conversation, the dismissal of that line and what it was supposed to convey is bull****. That conversation between Anakin and Padmé isn’t easy to watch because it was poorly written or terribly acted. I believe it was meant to be uncomfortable because we needed to understand how uncomfortable it was for Anakin. how far from his daily reality Naboo and Padmé were. It’d have been OOC for him to be all smooth and charming. Anakin was out of place there.

It gets even more obvious when we see deleted scenes of him meeting Padmé’s family. He was out of place in that big, homely house. He was out a place at the family dinner. He was out of place in Padmé’s bedroom, with her memories of home, with her mementos, we her ability to just go and do whatever she believed was right.

when we consider how foreign Padmé’s life was to him, his past marked by abuse and how emotionally damage he was…Of course he had trouble expressing himself in a way people would be comfortable with.

Expressing yourself is nowhere near as easy as “good movies” wants us to believe. So, kudos to George Lucas for giving us “bad movie dialogue”, for standing his ground and giving us Anakin Skywalker (a an honest, realistic portrayal of a teenager desperately trying to impress the girl he likes, while struggling with his own traumatic past and a lifetime of abuse and neglect) instead of the smooth charmer male hero we usually get.

**dracarys** · 04-13-2020, 06:25 PM

That definitely is comprehendable if we explore Anakin as an awkward teen/adult who probably didn't have any experience talking to people outside of the Jedi and women specifically.

**BehrItAll** · 04-14-2020, 12:03 PM

Totally.

And she's talking about her childhood. Which are filed with happy memories.
And being a slave, he can't really relate. It makes it even more awkward.

I love this illustration.

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THE CHOSEN ONE An illustration of the legendary Anakin Skywalker (played by Hayden Christensen) ❤️. Episode III is one of my favorites from the Star Wars saga (although it’s really dark and make my cry every time I watch it), I wanted to capture this pain in his eyes while he was basically losing himself into the dark side. This moment always makes me super emotional…

My IG: https://www.instagram.com/a.ross.art/
Artstation: https://www.artstation.com/darknessross
DA: https://www.deviantart.com/darknessendless

Source: darknessendless

oooh, scroll through the IG to see the video of how it was done:

atwoodsmariano · 04-14-2020, 12:12 PM

the deep thoughts you shared here make me sad thinking about that but he did have a really good mom who loved and cared for him

nice fan art

**BehrItAll** · 04-15-2020, 05:55 PM

Yeah, Shmi was a good mom. Which makes me even sadder now. Like that was his one good memory from his childhood.

More pretty art: timothydraike

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make me choose: @peterparkcr asked: Anakin Skywalker or ~~Kylo Ren~~

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