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Chris 01-25-2012 10:36 AM

Voyager Thread #6
 
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Originally Posted by Johnnie (Post 60977607)
Yeah, I suppose the writers would have to all be up on what has happened in previous Trek series and other episodes rather than writing standalone episodes, granted most things on the show has continuity there is a few things... Though the way Temporal Paradoxes work, who knows. :P

Yes, for the most part it was pretty good, but it would have been nice to have occasional references to past events.

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Originally Posted by lyb42 (Post 60979713)
Having personally caused several temporal paradoxes I can tell you that they are a real pain to...Wait. I just showed up to tell myself that I've worked them all out? Great! Nevermind, then.

:look: ;)

(Eighty eight miles per hour!!)

:lol: Martin

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Originally Posted by *KIA* (Post 60983284)
:lol: Nice save!

And Martin, I agree, but I guess it's getting pretty complicated keeping in mind all the aspects that should or could in the future be of importance... and planning ahead and going through with it may not be their strong suit... there is no other explanation for Chakotay and Seven and yes, I know this is more something for the J/C thread which is why my rant will end now

Totally agree with you there Kia.

lyb42 01-25-2012 01:08 PM

I'm sure someone will chastise me roundly for this, but I was fine with Chakotay/Seven. :gone:

Chris 01-25-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lyb42 (Post 60987460)
I'm sure someone will chastise me roundly for this, but I was fine with Chakotay/Seven. :gone:

To me, it just came totally out of the blue. Especially after there had been so much tension between Chakotay and Janeway over the years. Personally, I prefer to forget the C/7 scenes in the last few episodes.

lyb42 01-25-2012 10:30 PM

I did feel kind of bad for the EMH...

crazy_diamond 01-26-2012 04:18 AM

Me too, and where did Ch/7 come from :look:

lyb42 01-26-2012 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by crazy_diamond (Post 60998374)
Me too, and where did Ch/7 come from :look:

I'd put money on "Focus Groups."

kiamay 01-26-2012 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by lyb42 (Post 60996082)
I did feel kind of bad for the EMH...

What about poor Kathryn?!?

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Originally Posted by lyb42 (Post 60987460)
I'm sure someone will chastise me roundly for this, but I was fine with Chakotay/Seven. :gone:

While I can see how the male brain might be inclined to be enthusiastic about it, you have to admit that they didn't do a very good job telling this story and building a foundation for this nasty and heinous backstabbing plotline attack ;)

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 60990124)
To me, it just came totally out of the blue. Especially after there had been so much tension between Chakotay and Janeway over the years. Personally, I prefer to forget the C/7 scenes in the last few episodes.

:nod: :high_five:

lyb42 01-26-2012 10:39 AM

Wasn't "poor Kathryn" already married? Or did I hallucinate that part? :look:

Chris 01-26-2012 12:15 PM

She was engaged. I think his name was Mark.

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Originally Posted by lyb42 (Post 60996082)
I did feel kind of bad for the EMH...

Me too. Although there's that slight issue about him being a hologram. Still, the characters had a lot of chemistry together.

crazy_diamond 01-26-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lyb42 (Post 60999827)
I'd put money on "Focus Groups."

Seems a good bet..

kiamay 01-26-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lyb42 (Post 61002354)
Wasn't "poor Kathryn" already married? Or did I hallucinate that part? :look:

Yeah, you're right, you hallucinated ;)
Oh come on, he was back in the Alpha quadrant... 70 years away as far as they knew AND he broke up with her when they had communication via that communcation network that belonged to the Hirogen... She stayed faithful and kept her hands off Chakotay while he married someone else...
So yes, poor Kathryn! :P

lyb42 01-26-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by *KIA* (Post 61003910)
Yeah, you're right, you hallucinated ;)
Oh come on, he was back in the Alpha quadrant... 70 years away as far as they knew AND he broke up with her when they had communication via that communication network that belonged to the Hirogen... She stayed faithful and kept her hands off Chakotay while he married someone else...
So yes, poor Kathryn! :P

See, if I were tossed 70 years across the cosmos, I would be just as obliged to be true to my Snugglebunny as if I were just across the planet. Granted, part of that's my religion talking (I have no doubt that after I died, I'd get to explain any deviation from that obligation to her in detail :lol:). I still don't see her as much "poor Kathryn" as I do "good for her." I feel worse for her beau cutting her loose than I do for her being faithful.

kiamay 01-26-2012 01:22 PM

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See, if I were tossed 70 years across the cosmos, I would be just as obliged to be true to my Snugglebunny as if I were just across the planet.
:lol: :thumbs_up:

I'm not saying it's a bad thing to be faithful, just that I feel sorry for her being all alone in the end. After having been dumped she was single for a big part of the journey but being captain 24/7 always came first.
But the fact that her crew was always more important than any personal matters, that getting home was a priority she never strayed from is very much in character. So in that sense the writers did right by her.

Chris 01-26-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lyb42 (Post 61004278)
I feel worse for her beau cutting her loose than I do for her being faithful.

Agree with that. Commitment is more than just a word.

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Originally Posted by *KIA* (Post 61004601)
being captain 24/7 always came first.
But the fact that her crew was always more important than any personal matters, that getting home was a priority she never strayed from is very much in character. So in that sense the writers did right by her.

Very true. A good captain will put that first.

lyb42 01-26-2012 09:52 PM

I agree. It was in character for her, and it's one of things I always liked about her. :)


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