[Chris]

okay, that rings a bell.

[crazy_diamond]

ahh right...

[Chris]

Creative titles are good.

[crazy_diamond]

Star Trek: Voyager 4.01 Scorpion, Part II

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[Chris]

Yep, being Borg is explanation enough even for Tuvok.

[crazy_diamond]

Sure is

[DigificWriter]

I wish that more self-professed Voyager fans accepted and celebrated it for what it was, warts and all, instead of criticizing it for what it wasn't (or what they think it should've been).

[Chris]

No matter what a show does, it will never be able to satisfy all the fans. We just have to appreciate the parts we liked, and learn to accept the bits that we would have preferred to have been done differently.

[DigificWriter]

Originally Posted by Chris (View Post) No matter what a show does, it will never be able to satisfy all the fans. We just have to appreciate the parts we liked, and learn to accept the bits that we would have preferred to have been done differently.

Agreed. That doesn't seem to happen much when it comes to Voyager, though.

[Chris]

What in particular did you have in mind? I'm not a fan of the way they paired Seven and Chakotay at the end. That seemed to come completely out of the blue.

[crazy_diamond]

That was the 1 of 2 things that annoyed me with Voyager really

[Chris]

The other thing I found annoying was that Harry was never promoted.

[DigificWriter]

The fact that there are aspects of Voyager that you guys describe as annoying you gets at the core issues I have with how the fandom talks about the show.

I rarely see the Voyager fandom just celebrating the series for the characters it gave us and the stories it told; most conversations about the show from those who say they're fans of it are paired with "buts" that become the focus of the conversation and end up diminishing the series.

Yes, Voyager has its fair share of issues; it's still an excellent series that melded the Episodic and Serialized together to create a new kind of Star Trek, and I wish the fandom was more inclined v to recognize and champion its strengths instead of focusing on its weaknesses.

[crazy_diamond]

Originally Posted by Chris (View Post) The other thing I found annoying was that Harry was never promoted.

and also Seven having too many storylines in the S4, S5

[Waldfrau]

Some of it is maybe a bit of a love/hate thing. The way you're annoyed about the quirks of a person you love.

F. ex. "Treshold" often gets named as the worst Trek episode ever, but I don't think it really is the worst Trek episode. It's just very memorable and maybe feels like a lot of wasted opportunities because some interesting ideas got mixed up in way that's not thought through.