Star Trek - [Picard] 1:07 - "Nepenthe" - March 6th episode discussion - Page 2

Waldfrau · 03-08-2020, 01:49 AM

I think it's understandable if they don't suspect her of being a spy on purpose because she doesn't seem capable and mind control or influencing through a forced mind meld is probably rare.

However Rios and probably Raffi too know that a person could be host to a tracker without knowing it so both of them should suspect Jurati and each other.

**crazy_diamond** · 03-08-2020, 04:30 AM

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I didn't get the impression that Rios and Raffi suspected Agnes at all. That's why they came over as quite dumb to me. There was clearly something wrong and they repeatedly missed opportunities to find out what it was.

The death of Hugh was pointless, and the execution of it was awful, he could have least died in a better way, not because he wasn't hiding very well. Then to pull out the knife and make very little attempt to stop the bleeding, was a rubbish way to end it. I'd say it was a plot device, but I really don't know how the plot was improved by it.

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ITA Claire

***Chris*** · 03-08-2020, 05:44 AM

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I'd say it was a plot device, but I really don't know how the plot was improved by it.

Completely agree.

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I think it's understandable if they don't suspect her of being a spy on purpose because she doesn't seem capable and mind control or influencing through a forced mind meld is probably rare.

However Rios and probably Raffi too know that a person could be host to a tracker without knowing it so both of them should suspect Jurati and each other.

Raffi is much easier to suspect as the host of the tracker , especially since she's been off the ship and on her own after the journey started. Picard got the crew together rather quickly after Dahj's assassination, so it's hard to think that somebody was able to get a spy aboard so quickly.

**Arrakis** · 03-08-2020, 11:28 AM

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Fortunately those scenes were not the majority of the episode, which is why I enjoyed it. It gave nostalgia vibes and I started watching TNG from the beginning again yesterday...

I also rewatched some tng lately and realized how much better it actually is than Picard tbh.

***Chris*** · 03-08-2020, 12:28 PM

at this point, I have to admit to preferring TNG too.

**crazy_diamond** · 03-08-2020, 12:55 PM

TNG is miles better than this...

**Meliana** · 03-09-2020, 11:26 AM

I can't help remembering the fan backlash when TNG first came out though, so I'm willing to give this a chance. TNG took a while to get into its stride and become its own thing too.

***Chris*** · 03-09-2020, 12:27 PM

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TNG took a while to get into its stride and become its own thing too.

That's true.

**crazy_diamond** · 03-09-2020, 01:21 PM

Claire, good point

***Chris*** · 03-09-2020, 01:55 PM

I think there's only 3 more episodes this season.

**wickedrum** · 03-09-2020, 01:58 PM

when it's starting to get good!

***Chris*** · 03-09-2020, 02:03 PM

Agree with you there. It seems to have taken far too long for them to establish their storyline.

**crazy_diamond** · 03-10-2020, 04:05 AM

ITA..

***Chris*** · 03-10-2020, 06:12 AM

Maybe we'll still learn that some of the stuff that's seemed to be superfluous is relevant information.

**Arrakis** · 03-10-2020, 05:15 PM

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I can't help remembering the fan backlash when TNG first came out though, so I'm willing to give this a chance. TNG took a while to get into its stride and become its own thing too.

But they didn't kill off tos characters for shock value, I think that is already one big mistake that picard did that tng didn't.

As for the stuff agnes saw in that vulcan mind thing, I think it was related to that what happened in discovery season two with that artificial intelligence destroying the galaxy in the future. But from a vulcan point of vew I think it's not logical to hate all artificial life just bc of one occasion of evil AIs. I don't get why she works with the romulans. Also I'm sure the attack on mars was not bc the andorids were evil but bc someone programmed them to do this.

Also this episode makes me hate agnes even more. I mean she kills a friend of hers, just bc of something some shady vulcan lady is showing her? Good lord. She deserves some hard punishment, I hope she gets killed off. (narek and his sister should die too tbh).

It's nice that Riker mentioned the Xindi at some point.

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