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DollyJfan4life 12-20-2011 08:20 PM

Thanks!

Phoebe1_ 12-22-2011 01:08 PM

Hi all! I'm :new: to the forum, but I'm an old Phole fan! Phoebe and Cole is the most epic couple in TV history, my favorite EVER!! :woot:
This appreciation thread is beyond AWESOME! :jaw_drop: :thumbs_up: Add me to your list plZ! :)

americanamuchacha020 12-22-2011 01:55 PM

I loved Phoebe/Cole, the writers ruined them, to me, they were one of the IT couples outside of Piper/Leo.

pruedens_!! 12-22-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by americanamuchacha020 (Post 60365160)
I loved Phoebe/Cole, the writers ruined them, to me, they were one of the IT couples outside of Piper/Leo.

i have years to post here. who burried that thread>>??

i agree the writers gave no proper closure and i dont count the s7 cameo of julian as closure...since he had like one not even scene with phoebe....just the whole sense moment.

they were the first couple i ever shipped hardcore in my life and i was let down BIG TIME!! i cant watch season 5 = completely killed Coles character .

eternalfate 12-22-2011 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DollyJfan4life (Post 60332934)
Thanks!

No Problemo!

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Originally Posted by Phoebe1_ (Post 60364389)
Hi all! I'm :new: to the forum, but I'm an old Phole fan! Phoebe and Cole is the most epic couple in TV history, my favorite EVER!! :woot:
This appreciation thread is beyond AWESOME! :jaw_drop: :thumbs_up: Add me to your list plZ! :)

Welcome to the forum:wave: and welcome to the thread, I'm Tia and they were just amazing as you said and I'll add you now.

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Originally Posted by americanamuchacha020 (Post 60365160)
I loved Phoebe/Cole, the writers ruined them, to me, they were one of the IT couples outside of Piper/Leo.

I agree with you, it's difficult for me to watch the first 12 episodes of Season 5 so yeah I just skip those episodes...I mean I still can't. I liked them better than Piper/Leo...although we all know how great Piper/Leo were.

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Originally Posted by pruedens_!! (Post 60366227)
i have years to post here. who burried that thread>>??

they were the first couple i ever shipped hardcore in my life and i was let down BIG TIME!! i cant watch season 5 = completely killed Coles character .

Good you have years to post here.:lol: and I sure didn't bury it since I'm always trying to post after I see someone else post...I was the last post before someone finally brought it back up!

Too be honest I don't think Season 5 killed Cole's character...he was the same. His love for Phoebe was still the same and stronger then ever. Phoebe character is the one that change although she's my favorite I found her character OOC, I just don't believe she fell out of love with him...after all that happened in Season 3 & 4 we are seriously suppose to believe she would finally fall out of love with him? please.

But yeah with Cole, even after death his love still remained.

Jaime Bee 12-22-2011 08:26 PM

Cordy/Angel and Phoebe/Cole broke my shipping heart big time.:bawl:

I wish that they never brought him back for Season 5 and we got the sad ending of Season 4 as closure. At least Phoebe still loved him and they still wanted to be together.

DollyJfan4life 12-22-2011 08:49 PM

I think it's fair to say we just about all feel the same about season 5. They should have found a better way to write the Cole character out.

Jaime Bee 12-22-2011 08:57 PM

Yeah.:nod:

I hated that they blamed Cole for all the things he did as the source. It's not like he had control of himself then.

I've had good and bad luck with my ships but I think what was done to PC is the worst.:bawl:

DollyJfan4life 12-22-2011 09:03 PM

It was such bs that they blamed him for that.

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:bawl:

americanamuchacha020 12-22-2011 09:59 PM

Phoebe loved Cole, her sister's disapproval of them really pissed me off, especially Paige, it's called keep your nose out of your sister's love life please and thank you. What I don't seem to understand, Cole was willing to give someone else the throne of the source so he can be with Phoebe! Yet no one even seems to bring that up! Their love was epic and I'm sorry but I'll never believe Phoebe stopped loving Cole,a love that strong doesnt vanish into thin air, I think she wouldn't allow herself to show her love for Cole because he would of taken advantage of that. I just hate the writers for ruining them, they werent a real end to this couple at all:mad:

Phoebe1_ 12-23-2011 02:32 AM

Season 5 was disappointing and if it wasn't for Julian McMahon's desire to leave Charmed for Nip/Tuck, we would have the happy Phole ending we all wanted and 3 more seasons of Phole awesomeness. :drool: Maybe more!

I just wish Phoebe hadn't given up on Cole like she did in the episode "The Importance of Being Phoebe". What she said to him at the basement was so mean. So mean and heartbreaking. Cole's face said it all. :broken_heart: I was so :mad: at her. The writers could have written their ending better.

Then, in "Centennial Charmed", Julian's last episode as a regular, was a bit disappointing too. I'd prefer him returning to the past. I really wanted and needed some happy moments between Phoebe and Cole and instead of that, what did we get? More Phoebe hating on poor Cole, who did everything for her. Plus, it wasn't Phoebe-Phoebe. It was Phoebe in an alternate reality. What was that about?

It's a good thing that Cole came back in season 7 and we saw that despite everything, of course he still cared and loved her. What was disappointing about that was the fact that all Cole's scenes were with... Piper. Say whaaaat? Are you kidding me? We were so excited for Cole's return :pout: and they didn't even try to make things right between Phoebe and Cole. Such a huge disappointment. :sigh:

Not to mention the whole baby story. The baby was not Phoebe and Cole's? That's BS. It so was and when he died with the Seer, they didn't even mention it again on the show. I wanted scenes with Phoebe and Cole mourning their loss. :rant:

pruedens_!! 12-23-2011 04:36 AM

I dont blame Julian because ive read years ago before he decide to leave he talked with the writers and they didnt had anything different stored for Cole all the same being evil and blah blah they even had in mind and writed paige/cole/phoebe triangle early s5 and they dropped it. ive read it and its in the second episode when Phoebe turns to mermaid .

I think the destroy character was when he lost his mind and he tried to kill himself and get Phoebe with mummy guy by killing Paige. SO OVER THE LINE!!

The whole source thing was confusing because i got the impression it wasnt HIM it was the weak him half self giving in {check the nightmare before he accepts the source with future phoebe coming back } and he wasnt REALLY HIM in ways but after that they made it look like it was HIS BIG PLAN .

He gave up to his demon self decide to be good for Phoebe saved her and her sister by taking the source in s4 finale and he was killed for it and not only that he comes back takes gazillion powers and everything is worst since Phoebe doesnt like him and keeps pushing him away .

I think in a point in the siren song Phoebe was ready to go back with him .

I think the writers didnt really wanted cole to be good completely . What i never understood why they didnt give us a nice and closure worthy scene in s7 .

I will always love these two. Despite the ending we got.

americanamuchacha020 12-23-2011 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pruedens_!! (Post 60374924)
I dont blame Julian because ive read years ago before he decide to leave he talked with the writers and they didnt had anything different stored for Cole all the same being evil and blah blah they even had in mind and writed paige/cole/phoebe triangle early s5 and they dropped it. ive read it and its in the second episode when Phoebe turns to mermaid .

I think the destroy character was when he lost his mind and he tried to kill himself and get Phoebe with mummy guy by killing Paige. SO OVER THE LINE!!

The whole source thing was confusing because i got the impression it wasnt HIM it was the weak him half self giving in {check the nightmare before he accepts the source with future phoebe coming back } and he wasnt REALLY HIM in ways but after that they made it look like it was HIS BIG PLAN .

He gave up to his demon self decide to be good for Phoebe saved her and her sister by taking the source in s4 finale and he was killed for it and not only that he comes back takes gazillion powers and everything is worst since Phoebe doesnt like him and keeps pushing him away .

I think in a point in the siren song Phoebe was ready to go back with him .

I think the writers didnt really wanted cole to be good completely . What i never understood why they didnt give us a nice and closure worthy scene in s7 .

I will always love these two. Despite the ending we got.


She was thinking of returning to cole in siren's song but paige was like you've been through this before and the whole time i'm like SHUT the ***** up, its none of your business! I really hated paige in that storyline!

pruedens_!! 12-23-2011 10:28 AM

not to mention the ending in that ep another slap in the face. I liked Paige as a character after cole time before she was irritaded writing wise because they wanted someone to be in the middle ...and it was shame.

eternalfate 12-23-2011 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaime Bee (Post 60371258)
Yeah.:nod:

I hated that they blamed Cole for all the things he did as the source. It's not like he had control of himself then.

I hated that as well and the thing that hurt me about that storyline is that when Cole was the source, his love for Phoebe was still the most powerful thing in him, he even was happy when he learned he was going to be a father. His love for Phoebe was just huge. It's a moment I dislike from Season 4 that no one seemed to bring up...when Cole said he'll give up all his powers and he's give the powers to the Wizard but Phoebe stopped him and that's when she joined him ....so yeah that disappointed me cause he was going to give up the powers if he couldn't have her and he was the Source of all Evil..so yeah.

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Originally Posted by Jaime Bee (Post 60370898)

I wish that they never brought him back for Season 5 and we got the sad ending of Season 4 as closure. At least Phoebe still loved him and they still wanted to be together.

I agree with you, if they was going to write him off like that then they should have let him die in Season 4...the whole thing is though..as you can tell by Season 4 is even after the source died, Cole still loved him with all her heart but in Season 5 something changed...even the first two episodes of Season 5 where Phoebe says "I'll always love you but we're over"..or something like that....she still loved him so for me it's no way I can believe she just stopped loving him after that.

I really think if Julian didn't want to leave, the whole Phoebe/Cole love story would have been completely different.

Jaime Bee 12-26-2011 02:57 PM

All good points.:nod:

I hate that everything was destroyed. She hated him in the end.:bawl:

eternalfate 12-26-2011 04:38 PM

I still didn't find that believable that she hated him in the end, the show really did realistically show her hatred and you can see she could care less about him but I couldn't realistically believe it if that makes sense, not after everything that's happened and everything they have went through.

pruedens_!! 12-26-2011 04:51 PM

what i hate is the ep it was suppose to be called phoebe's closure the her old loved ones with coop. i mean really??? somehow i wanted more and expected even the last minute something to happen i guess i really shipped them hardcore since i kept watching when everything was off with the show anyways...

i dont think she hated him. "i guess it wasnt meant to be" her last words in his condo after they realize he is dead/ her look/ /i think they never got a proper closure to make justice to the love the writers wanted us to have faith in s4. i mean everytime i rewatch s4 i cant gasp the last eps. when you have nothing to write you ruin everything and you keep doing it.

at least they kept cole true to love her forever even dead and gone. when phoebe forgot about it and everytime she mentioned him it was bitter or bitter . i think ill stop with how the writers messed them up so bad..i might rewatch s3 soon...just for old times sake!

eternalfate 12-26-2011 06:06 PM

Well I guess if you bitter about something, there's a reason? I think somewhere deep inside she'll always love him but it was like the relationship that could never last.:( Phoebe loves kept him alive even when he was dead and it's good the fans can hold on to that. In Season 7 when he returned, the 150th episode even though Phoebe and Cole shared no scenes I loved the episodes one of my favorites and Cole love is still strongly there for Phoebe and Cole was Phoebe longest lasted relationship on Charmed.

It always does hurt to watching Season 3 & 4 knowing they don't end up together.

You're right though the words "I guess it wasn't meant to be" didn't sound like hate to me.

ice choco 01-20-2012 08:15 PM

Oh add me please! :D

shattered jewels 01-20-2012 11:41 PM

I miss them. :(

ice choco 01-20-2012 11:57 PM

Me too. They had a very intense relationship.. him being evil and all.
But they loved each other so much.

eternalfate 01-25-2012 12:32 PM

They sure did, and Cole love is just so huge. I just love how much he loves Phoebe.

ice choco 01-25-2012 01:41 PM

:nod: Same.
I love those gifs that were posted in here last month ^^

It's just as he said "I will always love you." And she had to kill him cuz he was evil. :( She cried for a long time after that.

Btw can I be added please?

eternalfate 01-27-2012 01:08 PM

I'm adding you now!
When she killed him in Season 4 it was really sad...and it was just amazing how strong Cole love for Phoebe was even while being the source.


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