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Old 09-17-2011, 11:31 AM
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Old 09-17-2011, 11:49 AM
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Old 09-17-2011, 12:04 PM
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Damon/Elena.
Damon/Life.
Every time I think I can't possibly hate Damon more he goes and proves me wrong. I just... what happened to the awesome, genuinely complex character he was on S1? Right now he's nothing but a sad excuse for a tortured hero. I think I was supposed to feel sympathy for him when Stefan killed Andie. I probably would have based on Ian's acting chops alone, since he's a damn good actor. But here's the problem: I'm supposed to feel bad for him because the woman he's been raping and compelling to risk her life repeteadly died? I feel bad for Andie, not for Stefan and definitely not for Damon. He'd been compelling her until that very same morning. He wanted her to tag along with him to a dangerous place though he'd made sure Elena, who knows infinitely more about vampires than Andie, didn't go. And this my main issue with Damon: if you're not Elena, you don't exist for him. He talks about "collateral damage", well, that collateral damage are human lives. Elena is my favorite character so obviously I want someone for her who will appreciate her and treat her wonderfully. What I don't want for her is someone who isn't capable of seeing beyond her. Damon's only capable of caring about one person at a time and even that caring is twisted and selfish. No, I don't want someone like him for Elena. I want her to be with a good person, not a, in my girl's words, self serving psychopath with no redeeming qualities. Plus it'd be cool if said good guy didn't, you know, murder her family if she loved someone else.

Matt/Caroline.
Matt/Life.
I'm not sure if this guy knows he's not the center of the universe. He's a complete whiny, selfish idiot who has zero respect for Caroline, no sense of friendship whatsover and the emotional maturity of a fly. So your ex girlfriend, the one you dumped because you couldn't accept who she was, is moving on instead of moping around begging you to take her back. How dare she, right?

Ripper!Stefan Storyline/Life. The only reason I'm not adding Stefan/Life to this list is because I think it's clear he's doing it to protect his brother, not to be a sadistic bastard. However, it's a very fine line the one the writers are walking and I hope they don't cross to unredeemable territory.
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Technically not because FF is rated PG-13, although I like it!
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Technically not because FF is rated PG-13, although I like it!
Oh, okay, I'll edited it.
I was just looking for funny gifs, and I found that and thought it was awesome!
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This title reminds me of:

JACK/GWEN
GWEN COOPER/LIFE

Luke/Reid
Reid Oliver/Life

Sam/Freddie
Sam Puckett/Life


All horrible and should never be allowed to disgrace TV again.
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Skins gen 2/ seasons 3-4 /existence : I just finished with season 4 and I have to say; what the bleeding hell was that? Why did I watch it? No wait, I know why; I kept saying to myself that the next episode will be better cause it couldn’t possibly be worse. Apparently the Skins writers love to prove me wrong.
I loved gen 1. In my opinion it was honest and realistic, there were repercussions to the characters actions, and the group as a whole felt more believable. Gen 2 was contrived. The friendships at first felt forced and then they kinda fell apart. Everyone would either act like a spoilt-emo-brat or as a plain evil brat. It wasn’t just the cast that changed it was the writing. Everything that I loved in the first two seasons was completely gone in the third and fourth one. Season 4 especially was excruciating to watch.
And don’t get me started on the triangle-of-doom! First of all, what happened to Effy?! I used to LOVE her back in season 1-2 and then...I couldn’t even recognise her anymore! She was acting so out of character some times, it was actually tragic. And Cook! They took the only interesting character they had (always IMO) and turned him into a whinny puppy that ran after Effy all the time like she was his saving grace or something! And Freddie, when and why did he fall in love with Effy?! He didn’t even know her! I can bet you that none of this kids even know what the word love means.
And honestly Effy did not deserve Cook and Freddie’s friendship. I know that they had issues, I mean we are talking about characters in Skins how could they not have?, but I really loved their relationship and Jack and Luke have surreal chemistry together.
So anyway:
Cook/Effy/Freddie
Freddie/Effy
Cook/Effy

Cook/ not having a real SL
Freddie/Dying by the crazy doctor with the bat
Effy/ Turning into OOC!Effy in seasons 3-4

Noami/Emily : I loved them at first but then the writers worked their magic again...
Pandora/Thomas: What? No, seriously, what?
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Old 09-17-2011, 01:49 PM
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Damon/Elena -

'I wasn't the favored child.' 'My father didn't love me as much as my brother.' 'The girl I loved loved my brother more.' 'My brother made me turn into a vampire.' 'My girlfriend, who was supposed to be a dried up piece of jerky in a cave, was actually alive and creepy-stalking my brother because she is a lying liar from Liarsburg.' Cry me a river, bro. There is a point when reasons become excuses. Let's say a century is the cut off point, okay? Since millions of people manage to push past violent childhoods of rape, beatings, degradation, genocide, war, slavery, etc., within a few decades and while those traumatic events never leave them they don't allow those things to rule them, and they don't use them as excuses to ruin the lives of others. People learn to recognize their behavioral patterns, triggers, etc., and control them and learn to form healthy adult relationships. And Damon does know his (like the back of his hand, I suspect) he just doesn't really care; he enjoys the control and the security that control provides.

Am I being cold, un-compassionate? No. I pity Damon. I dislike Katherine for the way she treated him. I think what happened between him and Stefan was tragic, but not any one person's fault. (Which is not me saying Stefan is a saint; simply that if Damon was manipulated into feeding from that first girl and so can't be blamed then I find it hard to fault Stefan who, accidentally, was also in the grip of bloodlust. One tragedy created another.) Feeling sorry for someone doesn't mean you absolve them. "Damon's trying." Fine then, writers, but attempting to change isn't the same as having changed and it doesn't get a ****ing gold star. "I want to not be a murderer!" Uh.....that's very nice for you, Damon, and I hope that works out and all, but until then stay the hell away from Elena. "He wants to be hated!" Well then, he's doing a damn good job. Next?

Damon is not a victim. Damon makes choices. Damon does crappy things because he can do crappy things and luckily enough for him there's always some reason just laying around that he can use to get himself off the hook. "Damon's feelings are intensified because he's a vampire." So were Rose's and she made it very clear in The Descent that ripping into people was not something she generally did. So are Caroline's and she's getting a freaking A+ in vampirism. So are Stefan's and he manages to control himself 99% of the time. So were Lexi's and I wouldn't have hesitated to sleep in the same room as her. It's not/wasn't easy for them; it was something they have/had to fight to control all the time. But they make/made the effort because you do not have the right to make your **** everyone else's.

Damon's relationships, all of them, are abusive and Damon is the abuser. Emotional manipulation? Check; people live in fear of Damon - hiding their weaknesses from him, worrying how he'll respond to changes - and altering their normal behavior to try to control his responses, which in turn makes them feel (to a degree) almost responsible for his actions (I should've done this differently, said it differently, gotten his permission first). Psychological/emotional abuse? Check; Damon particularly likes name-calling and badgering people for their perceived weaknesses. Physically abusive? Check; using women as blood bags, having sex with women after compelling them to not run away from him in fear (because he is a blood-sucking vampire, after all; this is their natural self-preservation instinct he's robbing them of) and to love him, snapping a young boy's neck, killing people out of sheer boredom or "emotional turmoil".

People say Elena doesn't have a self-preservation instinct; those people haven't looked close enough. In the beginning, Elena was flat-out opposed to Damon being around once she learned who and what he is. (And I don't mean being a vampire, I mean being a monster: when she saw how he treated poor Caroline.) But Elena had no say in it, did she? It's not like Elena could politely ask Damon to stop sneaking into her bedroom while she slept and touching her face like freaking Edward Cullen, or to not try to compel her to kiss him, or to just leave her alone; Damon is a 145 year old vampire who steamrolls everyone who attempts to assert their autonomy. So what did Elena do? What she does best: tried to riddle out his personality, his history (while making it very plain she did not want him around). Elena does this - she did it with Trevor and Rose, with Elijah, with Anna. She tries to understand their motivations and find a common link between that person and herself; with Trevor and Rose she played the sympathetic and ignorant kidnap victim once she realized assertiveness got her nowhere and reminded them too much of Katherine, with Elijah she ended up stressing the importance of her family and her word when she realized how important those things are to him, with Anna she tried the mother angle in the hotel room. Once she's found that link she uses it as the foundation of her relationship with that person. She builds from that, with positive actions (Elijah letting her go to Jenna) getting positive responses from her (her returning to him that night), negative actions (Damon snapping Jeremy's neck) getting negative responses ("You've lost me forever."). It's like voluntary Stockholm Syndrome designed to, for lack of a better word, domesticate the other person. "I can't get rid of this person and he/she won't leave. So how do I work this to make it non-threatening?" And while I hate the tolerance....she's a human girl. She ain't Buffy. Damon murdered her brother because she refused him. Supposedly, Damon loves Elena. And yet he rushed her baby brother - one of the few surviving relatives she had - toyed with him for a few seconds while she panicked and begged, then snapped his neck.




I understand perfectly: the tv series is based on novels about a love triangle, the show was pitched and sold as such, and now those two relationships - Stefan/Elena and Elena/Damon - are considered the backbone of the show and their supporters probably make up the bulk of the fanbase so the writers feel the need to do the triangle no matter what. The problem is: there is, as I understand, a long goddamn way to go between Book!Damon and Show!Damon. B!D was no saint but he didn't do most of the things credited to S!D. And Book!Elena was a self-centered bitch who had little problem fostering an emotional and sexual attraction to one man while involved with his brother. So the triangle on the show, imo, does not feel organic. It's inherited from another group of characters that have a different history. The writers went too far with Damon. I refuse to ****ing romanticize it: all the horrible things Damon has done do not make their love more Epic. They are not on some Great Journey. Damon is not her partner in the Great Dance of Life, for ****'s sake KW/JP! He is her brother's murderer. Her friend's rapist. She has to walk a mile of eggshells every day just in case he's been drinking or, I dunno, had a bad dream about Katherine that night or some other dumb thing that will set him off. So here's the deal, writers:

Either it turns out that: A) Elena went to Damon to take care of him out of loyalty to Stefan and to try and use whatever sway she might have to keep him calm (since she's the only person we know of who's taken care of a vampire dying of a werewolf bite), realized he was on the very brink of death and decided to act in a forgiving way because to do otherwise would bring neither of them peace and she wouldn't have to follow through on it since she was about to be free of him, or B) Elena actually is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. I am not being sarcastic. Damon is a predator - on this show he is second only to Klaus in his willingness to kill others - and that whole stupid Lion and Lamb thing is best left to Twilight. There is nothing romantic or epic about the pairing. The only option is that Elena really has learned, as a means of survival, to identify with Damon.

I'M SUPPOSED TO WANT TO SEE THAT PLAY OUT? No, no, no, no, and no, also: GDIAF.

Pairing Damon with anyone or anything but a stake is wrong. But with Elena? It somehow manages to be worse than almost any potential pairing but perhaps Damon/Caroline and Damon/Andie. And I say perhaps because: he slept with her biological mother and then killed her. This is after having slept with her ancestor who looks exactly like her. He killed her biological father, he killed her brother. It's like he's been spinning this web around her and it's ****ing nauseating to watch.

And it's very sad that after less than a week (by show time) that we last saw him use and abuse Andie he's suddenly deemed "worthy" of being involved with Elena because he accidentally got bitten by a werewolf and was dying. Are the writers insane?! JP&KW need to make an excel file of all of Elena's potential suitors and make a Pro and Con column for all of them. Like:

Stefan: Boring.
Stalked her for a few months.
Gets self-righteous at times.
Was once/is currently a ripper.

Matt: Can get kinda ragey sometimes.
Can't handle Elena's life.

Elijah: Currently dead.

Damon: Murdered Elena's brother.
Raped Caroline.
Raped Andie.
Murdered Vicki.
Tried to force Elena to become a vampire.

And then explain exactly how Damon is a good choice, much less the best choice, for Elena! Especially since he's still doing this crap. He hasn't changed. He hasn't evolved. His crappy plan literally came back to bite him () and now suddenly: all's forgiven?

I can't even comment how laughably insane it is that I'm supposed to feel something for Damon because Stefan offed Andie. Boo hoo. Now Mary Sue Damon has to find another woman to compel to love him, have sex with him, and let him use her as a blood bag.
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