Season 3 discussion #29: "Want some Peach Yoghurt?"
 

How do you know Ethan's not a loyal friend? :look:
We barely saw him with any friend, not to mention, best friend.

Michael is loyal to anyone but Justin!

you're sweet, Steffi. I'll make myself at home here and never go away

TFTNT

I couldn't come up with anything so I thought "Peach Yoghurt" is kinda neutral :lol:

tftnt, Steffi, I realy love the title ;)

We didn't get to see Ethan with his friends very often but from what we saw I think it doesn't look like they were such close group of friends such as Brian and the gang. they were quite snoby and I'm not sure if they could develop much loyelty to each other... plus I think Ethan was mostly loyal to his music and his carrer so much so that he could never be loyal and show true love to another person which is rather sad, really.

I don't think Micheal wasn't loyal to Justin. He didn't like the fact Justin became more present in Brian's life, that's for sure, and his major loyalty was to Brian but he's the one who took care of Justin back in early S1 and then later on in S2 he was even able to bond with Justin to create Rage...

For me Michael isn't loyal to Justin.
It might change in Season 5 - but until then I was already done with this wannabe-pseudo friendship.

And as you said, the friends we saw didn't seem to be so close to Ethan. So we don't know anything about him. I mean, he doesn't seem to have a real close friend, like Michael/Brian or Daphne/Justin, so we can't say that he's not a loyal friend.

I don't think what Justin and Micheal had was a pseudo relationship but I can def say that about what Justin and Ethan had...

Hm no, I think Ethan and Justin really wanted that relationship. We could see it wouldn't work out, it was obvious, but I can see them not seeing it.

With Michael it's different. He was never Justin's "fan". "Rage" just happened and nothing more. To me they never had been real friends. Sorry.

I think first and foremost Michael was Brian's best friend and then he was Justin's friend so at the end of the day Michael was going to be more loyal to Brian than to Justin.

Of course Micheal was more loyal to Brian and i guess he would always feel as though Justin 'took' Brian from him. We can hear a slight bitterness in his voice when he told Hunter he shouldn't try to impress Brian because he's already got a boyfriend for example, but I think he was trying to be a friend to Justin and that they had a few things in common.

I think they would have got along for Brian's sake, Michael would have been nice to please Brian and Justin would have tolerated Michael. Michael needed to make nice with Justin for Rage, it's a lot easier to come up with a storyline, but it takes someone with great talent to bring it to life...Michael knew that. :nod:

did you read comic books when you were young(er)?
do you still read comic books or mangas?

would you read Rage?

I've never read comic books, they're not my kind of thing. But I would love to read Rage :lol:

About Michael and Justin... I think they could have been good friends if there hadn't been Brian and Michael's feelings for him. I don't think Michael and Justin ever really disliked each other, but the jealousy created lots of problems in the beginning. But in S5, Michael became quite loyal to Justin, even more than to Brian.

Though in season 3, at least at the beginning Michael and Justin were in bad terms..

I would read Rage since I used to be addicted to yaoi(boy's love) mangas esp. Love Mode and Junjou Romantica...:D

They were definitely friends in Season 5 to the point that they were exchanging recipes :lol: