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Old 08-14-2022, 10:15 PM
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David was so stifling ugh

He literally took the joy out of a lot the scenes he was in with Michael. I have seen happiness leave Michael's eyes whenever he would start being controlling.
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Old 08-15-2022, 11:28 AM
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Ben was far from good too.
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Old 08-21-2022, 08:52 PM
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Ben could be insufferable too when he was insecure or hurting about something. True.
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Old 08-24-2022, 06:06 PM
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Ben wasn't stable person.
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Old 11-03-2022, 05:38 PM
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He really wasn't.
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Old 11-08-2022, 01:45 PM
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Ben definitely had his good moments but in the end he kept Michael in line, even if Michael never objected.
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Old 11-09-2022, 09:51 PM
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Why wasn't Ben stable? Was it the steroid use and how he became with it?
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Old 11-10-2022, 03:47 PM
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Why wasn't Ben stable? Was it the steroid use and how he became with it?
Mostly. He was whenever his mood swung, which normally is ok, everyone has better or worse days/times. He was great when he was feeling good, when he wasn't he was treating Michael very wrong.
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Old 11-12-2022, 12:08 AM
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I think been was unstable in the sense of being insecure, and that sometimes made him act out in ways not considered rational or mature.

Like that time Michael experienced a little success. Instead of being happy for him, Ben kinda developed an attitude.

He almost cheated with the bug chaser.. but it just took him finding out what the guy was up to for him to turn away. Only then did he really prioritize everything and re-evaluate certain decisions he was about to make based off emotions.
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Old 11-17-2022, 03:49 PM
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I think Michael and Ben's story was pushed into a fairytale with some bumps on the way. I don't think they would become a great couple for years to come.
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Old 11-17-2022, 06:33 PM
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There's not one couple on this show that was perfect.
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Old 11-18-2022, 04:09 PM
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That's true. It's not about perfect but being good for each other in more ways than one.
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Old 11-21-2022, 09:42 AM
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I think been was unstable in the sense of being insecure, and that sometimes made him act out in ways not considered rational or mature.

Like that time Michael experienced a little success. Instead of being happy for him, Ben kinda developed an attitude.

He almost cheated with the bug chaser.. but it just took him finding out what the guy was up to for him to turn away. Only then did he really prioritize everything and re-evaluate certain decisions he was about to make based off emotions.
I didn't feel like HE would've cheated. He was definitely distraught that his book was a failure, but I don't think he'd stoop so low, despite the bug chaser.

Also, Michaels success reminded him of his failure and he had a difficult time dealing with it. I think this is pretty human. He did come around though.

And, I think Ben was mostly tolerant of Brian. He knew that he was important to Michael even though he didn't like him. Unlike the a$$hole in the first season.
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Old 11-21-2022, 04:49 PM
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When you coming into someone's life, I can't imagine people who let themselves to fight for friends place. So yeah, he never did a big problem of it, but also it's not a plus. It shouldn't be. It should be normal.

It's hard to say if he could cheat or not on Michael. I think he would be capable of it, if the circumstances were good, like drugs.
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Old 11-21-2022, 09:28 PM
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You are right. It SHOULD be normal. Sadly, the only normal one was Gus, but he didn't even talk at 5, so....
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