[Orton]

Okay I've seen this thread elsewhere and I though it was a good idea
Obviously every show has a really unrealistic thing that happens - okay so what if its a show but sometimes its pretty annoying.

Like Molly Justin's little sister I mean she was introduced once in the first series and throughout the second and third series she didn't even get mentioned or even popped up - and how about Cynthia she's been here and there over the three years but only for a second or two.

Any other suggestions

Orton

[galela]

i don't know what's unrealistic about supporting characters - if you even wanna call them that - not having much screentime. if we start giving storylines to molly & cynthia ...
cynthia had quite some scenes in season 4 btw.

what i call unrealistic would be the thing with emmett's screenname. obviously that wasn't meant to be realistic, tho.

[Rivulet027]

I don't know I think I agree with the Molly thing. You think we'd hear something about her cause with everything her family's been through in the past few years it would be a bit odd if she didn't start rebelling in a major way.

I may not have the age difference between Molly and Justin with my brother but I still see him every few days and well I guess I just agree with that point. I'd like to know how she's doing.

[Orton]

Yeah so do I I mean they are still brother and sister, and she wasn't even shown when her parents got divorced and stuff. I mean what was she 8 years old in the first series the least she would be 11 or 12 years old - but there was nothing nada!.
It's not ginvin them screen time its about whats the point making them exist if you don't mention what they do once in a while. I mean Daphne got more screen time and got mentioned more.

Emmetts Screen name??????

orton

[galela]

when emmett's screenname became like a real person that he could talk to. in mid-season 1.

unrealistic is also brian's becoming detective & solving a murder with hunter's help end season 3. this storyline always makes me roll my eyes.

[Orton]

Oh Yeah that was sad with Em... it seemed like the twilightzone

Detective Brian... He wanted revenge so maybe 50/50 for me.

I found the fact that Ted was so in love with Michael though it lasted a couple of episodes and it seemed like it was forgotten...

[SassySarah]

Originally posted by Orton I found the fact that Ted was so in love with Michael though it lasted a couple of episodes and it seemed like it was forgotten...

Hmm. Not really. In 208 it was kinda touched on again. They just don't make a big deal about it.

[Film Lover]

Originally posted by galela unrealistic is also brian's becoming detective & solving a murder with hunter's help end season 3. this storyline always makes me roll my eyes.

I don't really agree that it was unrealistic. First, the fact that Stockwell had a chance of winning the election was at least partially Brian's fault, so I can see him trying to do something to correct the situation once he realized that Stockwell wasn't just blowing smoke to get votes, that he really meant what he said.

Second, it's not like Brian suddenly was deeply concerned about the death of Jason Kemp -- he was looking for a way to topple Stockwell. He wasn't on a crusade to catch Dumpster Boy's killer, he was on a crusade to keep the world safe for him to continue using drugs and having promiscuous public sex. I found it very easy to believe Brian would take on a cause like that.

Third, the fact that Brian wasn't very good at the detective thing helped make the story believable to me. Brain didn't find Rikert -- he didn't even know were to start or make the slightest attempt to find the guy until he found out Hunter knew what the killer looked like. It's not like he went out of his way looking for someone who might know the guy, the information was handed to him on a silver platter.

Brian's first attempt to talk to Rikert was pathetic and fruitless, then he tried dragging Justin into it, and that went nowhere. Again, it was Hunter that got the evidence, Brian just delivered it to the police. Then Brian tried talking to Rikert again, and ended up unwittingly pushing the man into committing suicide, which could easily have ruined everything. Dead Rikert meant nobody to arrest, meant no publicity painting Stockwell in a bad light, which could very well have meant bye-bye election.

So then Brian dropped his miserable attempt to be a detective and did what he does best -- advertising. And that's what kept Stockwell out of office.

Anyway, I guess it's mostly because of the fact that Brian was a lousy detective that I didn't have any problem finding the story believable.

[Orton]

Lousy Detective I can vouch for that. but I didn't think the whole Hunter doing the guy was realistic sure the kid wanted to impress Brian but that took things a little too far.

I know that they did mention the whole Ted and Michael thing again but, I don't know it was so easily forgotten but thats how I see it.

I actually rolled my eyes at when justin was doing the King of Baylon dance guranteed it was cool, but it just seemed sad to me too

Orton

[dorksrock]

Originally posted by Orton Yeah so do I I mean they are still brother and sister, and she wasn't even shown when her parents got divorced and stuff. I mean what was she 8 years old in the first series the least she would be 11 or 12 years old - but there was nothing nada!. It's not ginvin them screen time its about whats the point making them exist if you don't mention what they do once in a while. I mean Daphne got more screen time and got mentioned more.

I think the last time Molly was mentioned was in season 3 when Jennifer had been having lunch with Ethan and Justin (aaah...those names together! bleh). She was talking about Justin's tuition and how he could ask his dad since he was helping Molly so much. Something along those lines. Don't think we've heard of her since.

What about in 108 when Brian is shopping with Lindsay for a new Jeep. He decided to test the Jeep after the salesman told him that a lot of fags seem to like it. He drove straight into the the building, breaking the large window and said "We'll take it." Don't you think there'd be some legal action or something? Oh and I think QAF US took this directly out of Stuart doing the same thing in QAF UK.

[Orton]

What about in 108 when Brian is shopping with Lindsay for a new Jeep. He decided to test the Jeep after the salesman told him that a lot of fags seem to like it. He drove straight into the the building, breaking the large window and said "We'll take it." Don't you think there'd be some legal action or something? Oh and I think QAF US took this directly out of Stuart doing the same thing in QAF UK.

Yeah thats very true...and there was no legal action, and Yeah it was taken straight out of the UK one. But to me when stuart did it seemed funnier But afterwards in the UK one when Stuarts secetary was telling everyone what stuart did, she said that the people said they were gonna sue, but the boss said they can but they were are dealing with a PA company or something like that, so that made it realstic cause it was mentioned after Stuart did, but when Brian did it nothing zilch.

[SassySarah]

Film Lover- Well said.

Originally posted by Orton Lousy Detective I can vouch for that. but I didn't think the whole Hunter doing the guy was realistic sure the kid wanted to impress Brian but that took things a little too far.

I wouldn't say that. Hunter was a hustler then. And as a hustler you have to be emotionally numb to be able to do the things that you do. When it came down to the actual act it was probably very easy for Hunter because in the end all the guy was was another trick. Basically, Hunter's a pro at detaching himself from sex. At least at that time.

Originally posted by dorksrock What about in 108 when Brian is shopping with Lindsay for a new Jeep. He decided to test the Jeep after the salesman told him that a lot of fags seem to like it. He drove straight into the the building, breaking the large window and said "We'll take it." Don't you think there'd be some legal action or something? Oh and I think QAF US took this directly out of Stuart doing the same thing in QAF UK.

That's a very good point. I would think that he'd get arrested for damaging property, but I guess not in CowLip's world. Doesn't matter, I guess. In the end it was still a very cool scene.

[Film Lover]

Originally posted by SassySarah That's a very good point. I would think that he'd get arrested for damaging property, but I guess not in CowLip's world. Doesn't matter, I guess. In the end it was still a very cool scene.

It would have been nice if they had showed us what it was that kept Brian out of trouble (IIRC, they did give an explanation in the UK version), but I can think of a lot of reasons why Brian wouldn't have gotten in trouble for that. Maybe Brian told the salesman he was dealing with that, if he told anyone it was deliberate rather than just an accident, he would let the man's manager know how he was trying to discourage a potential customer from making a purchase. Or he might have said something like, "I'll start an anti-public relations campaign against your dealership so you'll never sell another car again." There are plenty of ways Brian could have made it in either the salesman's or the the car dealership's best interests to just let the whole thing drop.

Sometimes I think Brian lives by the words of the late, great, Robert A. Heinlein:

Never appeal to a man's "better nature." He may not have one. Invoking his self-interest gives you more leverage.

[Orton]

Originally posted by Film Lover It would have been nice if they had showed us what it was that kept Brian out of trouble (IIRC, they did give an explanation in the UK version), but I can think of a lot of reasons why Brian wouldn't have gotten in trouble for that.

Yeah... they did give and explanation in the UK one

I don't know if this is illegal but when Justin ws putting posters up all over the walls of Stockwell, aren't you suppose to get permission, obviously Justin isn't going to but would that still be considered illegal?

Orton

[SassySarah]

Originally posted by Orton I don't know if this is illegal but when Justin ws putting posters up all over the walls of Stockwell, aren't you suppose to get permission, obviously Justin isn't going to but would that still be considered illegal?

I don't think it'd be illegal. I mean, yes, it is slander, but at the same time he's using his right of free expression.