ToFuJello

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I'm making this new thread becuase there isn't really a proper thread to where you can talk about your speculations, discuss all the rumours you here, and think of all the possiblities to where the facts may lead.

I've recently been rereading the OotP I"m I'm realizing a lot of stuff that I never really noticed before. But here are a lot of random things that I have noticed and have just jotted down.

*SS- In the movie the Dursley's car is silver and all the other cars are black. The Dursley's try so hard to fit in why would they have a different car color?

*SS- Harry set a snake free in the beginning. Considering that a snake pretty much symbolizes his enemy, is that sayd that Harry is going to help out a 'snake' in the furture? Set him free to go home?

*I don't think Ron, Hermione, or Harry are ever going to go to turn bad, due to Crookshanks. Because he's that creature I for got what their called.

*OotP- Why didn't Harry just put his thought into a Pensive(sp?) when no one believed him and showed it to Fudge? I'm sure JK has a reasonable anwser to this. It was just a thought.

*I think Ron could be a possible Seer, and that he's going to be the Weasley to die.

*As for the breaking news of the Half Blood Prince, I think it's Colin Creevy. I'm going to figure it's a person who is introduced in CoS, because of the story change that JK made to wait for the 6th book. And that person just pops up to me, I know it's even a little weird for me.





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Qfanny

Hi ToFuJello:

I originally posted this on the Latest News thread, and I need to paste it right away. Here it goes.

HBP was an appropriate title for the 2nd book because it could have been Voldemort in the sense that he's a half-blood. But Prince suggests someone with dignity and morals, that Voldemort is not either. I am sure that JKR felt that the title fitted a different character better, and I'd bet all of my gold the HBP is James Potter .

Here are my reasons why I conclude this:

1: James Potter was official unemployed. (Petunia never suggested that he was not well to do, just unemployed.)

2: James Potter was good at sport. (Something that rich people get to do quite a bit.)

3: James Potter was able to pass a very large fortune to his son, Harry.

4: James Potter's family supported Sirius before and after he left the Black household.

5: James Potter possibly got his invisibility cloak at a young age. It's an item that is "rare" and coveted by the wizarding world. Its value suggest the owners were people of prestige and honor.

6: Also, Draco immediately wants to be friends with Harry once he knows who he is, and shuns Ron for being poor or a Weasley.

Maybe I'm nuts, but I think that the canon really points to James.

Qfanny

I like this idea very much. I do feel that the book 7 will end with either Harry dying or Harry losing all his magic. But that's all I'll say on that right now.

ToFuJello

Wow QFanny.

I totally agree with you with the James Potter thing, forget the Colin Creevy. That makes since and excelent points. And with that JK is also able to tell back ground about James, when Harry finds out.
But I thought I read in interview that Harry's grandparents woud be talked about but is not a signifigance to the story line.

I also thing That Harry has to die in the end cause I think Voldermort is connected through Harry and will always be able to survive until Harry is dead.

Qfanny

The nice thing about JKR is that you can get close to the truth and still be surprised. Before OotP I was certain that Ginny was going to be the next Keeper only to be surprised that it was Ron instead. Later, I was surprised to see Ginny playing Seeker. So, if I am wrong, it will just be a nice surprise. It's not going to end my day or anything.

ToFuJello

Another thing I wonder about is that what did the Potter's do that Voldermort had to come and kill them himself. Cause I remember reading in somewhere thatyou had to really of done something to be killed by Voldermort personally. That would make since if James Potter was the Half Blood Prince. Makes since why he had to kill Harry, and countinues to try. Even though some of it is probably out of spite.

Qfanny

The thing that Voldemort cares about is power. How to get it, how to increase it, how to exploit it. If the Potters and the Longbottoms interfered with Voldemort's pursuit, then yes, I think he would make a personal appearance to remove the obstacle.

I am sure that he delegates lesser tasks to his Deatheaters, but Voldemort cares about power and somehow, the Potters were stopping him from getting it.

--only my opinion here---

ToFuJello

Oh Wait!!
The Originaly title for CoS was going to be HBP, right. Well that would make since, the time for when Harry pulled out the sword for the sorting hat making him the heir to Gryffindor. That's when it could be explained to him why he was and it was because of James! That makes sooo much since!!

Ben

Changed the title to reflect the thread better.

Can't be James surely? Since he is pure-blood.

Qfanny

Can you show me exactly where it says James is a Pureblood? What book? Or was there something JKR said about it?

You know, it occurs to me, half-blood could be a title and not necessarily a description. Let me see - not being famaliar with monarachy - is it possible to be say, Prince of Wales, and not actually be Welsh? Or say, "Protector of the Faith" and be unfaithful?

Just because I suggest that James is the HBP doesn't necessarily make him a half blood does it? (Of course, it makes everything a lot cleaner if it does )

- Alex -

well, I'm with Ben in this, James is pure-blood, at least for me he is.. we've always been told how wonderful it was for Lily and her family to discover that she was a witch, etc.. and we've been suggested that James came from a pure-blood family, they "adopted" Sirius too, who also was a wizard.. I actually can't explain what I think, it would be too difficult to write for me since English is not my lanbguage, but for me James is clearly pure-blood.. it's my opinion

baileycat

Qfanny, you make a very strong arguement for James. And it's only been implied that James is a pureblood. We don't know for sure. So you could be right. And it makes sense because Harry might want to find out more about his dad as he grows up. This might be a family secret. His wealth sure is strange. And it's already established that he was a cocky s.o.b. Not that this is proof that he's a spoiled prince but it is interesting that with each book comes another revelation about James.

My money's still of Godric Gryffindor but that might change down the road. As ToFuJello said, it might all be connected.

Harry is " a true Gryffindor" - so say Dumbledore.

ToFuJello

BUt didn't Sirius say in OotP that all Pure-Blood are inter twined someway. So wouldn't at least one Potter name showed up on the ancestrial chart thing, if the Potter name was at any chance pure-blood

Dream Girl

I wrote this on the Latest News thread before I got down to this thread:

"I believe the 'Half Blood Prince' is Dean.

On JK's website, in the extra stuff, she explains that Dean is in fact a half blood, and that his father was killed by Death Eaters because he refused to join them. This gets me thinking why they would want him in the first place.

She says that she had a lot of background information on Dean but had no where to put it. She also says that she included Dean's story in an early draft of Chamber of Secrets, which JK says was going to be called 'Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince'

Well, thats my theory anyway. "

Qfanny

If I am wrong, then what do I loss: Absolutely nothing. I will just find the book more enjoyable then.

Thanks to all that posted. I think I might have hit a nerve.