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shinebrighterxx 08-27-2022 12:04 AM

That's wonderful that something like that is blowing up on social media :sigh: Hopefully it gets somewhere if there are issues (which there does seem to be)
Amazing how much is on that list


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Yep, and if she was as difficult as I've seen people saying, she'd likely have crossed lines herself eventually, but in that situation she was not the problem, so she's not the one that should have gone. It actually really annoys me when people fail to see that, especially when they just assume you're one of her stans if you do. I am perfectly capable of recognising that the quality of the show improved after she left AND that she should never have been the one that left. It's not an either/or, both can be true at the same time.
Precisely.
It isn't that hard to see that she shouldn't have been the one who left based upon that particular situation. The quality of the show has nothing to do with that. The show quality also may have improved had HE been the one to leave. Only no one knows that because you didn't get that situation. They're two different subjects/incidents with their own responses, so both can result in the answer being true.


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It's also worth noting that there's rumours that the reason the SVU/One Chicago crossovers stopped is that Mariska had Beghe banned from the SVU set.
I've seen that as well. Don't think he ever appeared on the SVU set? Or he did the one time? Makes sense if it was the one time & then Mariska has gone never again. I'd presume Mariska has some power over her show/set so I believe the rumours. She can't control everything of course, but they'd be fools to ignore her. Plus they should know that if she walks the show will end or at least drop significantly in viewers.


Beghe being one of Dick Wolf's favourites would help him get the staying power regardless of what he does :rolleyes:. Wouldn't be the only one...


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I don't think NBC were separating them, from what I've read they seemed to be setting up his character being her character's bio father. They might be trying the separation thing now on Fire, but I doubt they did on PD.
I haven't watched PD so not sure either. Shame if they didn't care to even try it. That should've been their first move. Nice if they're doing it with Fire possibly though. NCIS was fortunate that they could & Fire is probably in the same situation depending on who the characters involved are. Probably harder to separate two cops... but that's where you get creative on who works with who...


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I don't think anyone could be that unlucky. It's a good three quarters of the shows that seem to have issues.
Exactly. I agree, there's obviously a lot of good on the sets as well as the bad too as you said. We all know how much Mariska & Chris love each other too (not that they're on the same show anymore). Then she posts a few things with Kelli & Peter on social media I think. Not sure if they do things outside of the show together. Mariska & Stephanie did if I remember correctly. I think with all workplaces you can expect that you might get that one bad seed or someone you don't get along with. However these shows seem to have bigger issues than that. At least some of them anyway. Then others just have suspicious exits at least. That's just looking at current shows... his ended ones also would have something I'm sure. CI (& OG L&O) had an actor who has had accusations made against him to name one thing...

BlondieLeigh 08-27-2022 11:49 AM

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That's wonderful that something like that is blowing up on social media Hopefully it gets somewhere if there are issues (which there does seem to be)
Amazing how much is on that list
It absolutely NEEDED to blow up. I really hope people don't drop this, it's too important.

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Precisely.
It isn't that hard to see that she shouldn't have been the one who left based upon that particular situation. The quality of the show has nothing to do with that. The show quality also may have improved had HE been the one to leave. Only no one knows that because you didn't get that situation. They're two different subjects/incidents with their own responses, so both can result in the answer being true.
Yep, and I personally believe that it would definitely improve if he was gone. It's insane to me that people think you have to be a fan of someone to see what is literally right in front of you.

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I've seen that as well. Don't think he ever appeared on the SVU set? Or he did the one time? Makes sense if it was the one time & then Mariska has gone never again. I'd presume Mariska has some power over her show/set so I believe the rumours. She can't control everything of course, but they'd be fools to ignore her. Plus they should know that if she walks the show will end or at least drop significantly in viewers.
There were four. He was in three of them.

SVU 15x15 | PD 1x06
Fire 3x07 | SVU 16x08 | PD 2x07
Fire 3x21 | PD 2x20 | SVU 16x20
SVU 17x14 | PD 3x14

They stopped a while ago, and they've never explained why they stopped, especially considering how much Dick Wolf seems to love the crossovers. Obviously we don't know for sure why they stopped, but the rumours and there and there does have to be a reason...

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Beghe being one of Dick Wolf's favourites would help him get the staying power regardless of what he does . Wouldn't be the only one...
His character was sent to prison in season 1 of Chicago Fire, then they found some convoluted way to get him out so that PD could be built around him. There's no way he's not one of the favourites.

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I haven't watched PD so not sure either. Shame if they didn't care to even try it. That should've been their first move. Nice if they're doing it with Fire possibly though. NCIS was fortunate that they could & Fire is probably in the same situation depending on who the characters involved are. Probably harder to separate two cops... but that's where you get creative on who works with who...
PD do so well at keeping some characters separate that there's a long running joke with the actors and the fandom that two of the characters, Jay and Kim, have never met. The actors refer to each other's characters as "Jake" and "Kate" because they find it hilarious that they practically never have scenes together. If they wanted to separate them, they very clearly could have. Sure it may have been weird, but it was weird with Gibbs and Abby and NCIS still did that.

Fire definitely can separate within reason. There's four squads on the show - Squad, Truck, Engine and Ambo. Unfortunately the woman that is a problem is always on the same one as her most likely targets, so impossible to separate for work scenes, but they seem to be for personal ones when they never did for the others.

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Exactly. I agree, there's obviously a lot of good on the sets as well as the bad too as you said. We all know how much Mariska & Chris love each other too (not that they're on the same show anymore). Then she posts a few things with Kelli & Peter on social media I think. Not sure if they do things outside of the show together. Mariska & Stephanie did if I remember correctly. I think with all workplaces you can expect that you might get that one bad seed or someone you don't get along with. However these shows seem to have bigger issues than that. At least some of them anyway. Then others just have suspicious exits at least. That's just looking at current shows... his ended ones also would have something I'm sure. CI (& OG L&O) had an actor who has had accusations made against him to name one thing...
And when there aren't issues with the cast, some of them get fired for no reason. It's almost like they want problems on set :confused:

There's definitely at least one from the OG L&O, but he wasn't invited back for the new season - the right choice.

shinebrighterxx 08-27-2022 07:52 PM

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It absolutely NEEDED to blow up. I really hope people don't drop this, it's too important.
I hope it goes bigger than just Twitter. Someone needs to confirm the things being said & look deeper into what is going on. There is clear favouritism, sexism, racism, & turning the blind eye in those accusations. Definitely not isolated cases either, a pattern has been outlined going back even to the early days of OG L&O

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There were four. He was in three of them.

SVU 15x15 | PD 1x06
Fire 3x07 | SVU 16x08 | PD 2x07
Fire 3x21 | PD 2x20 | SVU 16x20
SVU 17x14 | PD 3x14

They stopped a while ago, and they've never explained why they stopped, especially considering how much Dick Wolf seems to love the crossovers. Obviously we don't know for sure why they stopped, but the rumours and there and there does have to be a reason...
Wow there's so much more than I remember. I just remember seeing something about Mariska not wanting him on her set/show & that he didn't seem to appear after that. But it may have just been that they stopped completely. Especially as he was in the 17x14 one.

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His character was sent to prison in season 1 of Chicago Fire, then they found some convoluted way to get him out so that PD could be built around him. There's no way he's not one of the favourites.
:facepalm: That's a terrible storyline

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PD do so well at keeping some characters separate that there's a long running joke with the actors and the fandom that two of the characters, Jay and Kim, have never met. The actors refer to each other's characters as "Jake" and "Kate" because they find it hilarious that they practically never have scenes together. If they wanted to separate them, they very clearly could have.
Then they've got no excuse. They could've protected Sophia & issues from arising

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And when there aren't issues with the cast, some of them get fired for no reason. It's almost like they want problems on set
Which is ridiculous


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There's definitely at least one from the OG L&O, but he wasn't invited back for the new season - the right choice.
hmm that's different to who I was thinking of sounds like then... so at least they made a good decision to not invite back but still concerning :look:

PurpleLily 08-28-2022 12:19 AM

It is disappointing to see Kelli Giddish leaving the show. Disgusting that it appears that she may be being forced out for monetary and/or ageist reasons (if rumours are to be believed).



BlondieLeigh 08-28-2022 02:17 PM

^ If he named the character, he likely knows firsthand, so that's pretty interesting.

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I hope it goes bigger than just Twitter. Someone needs to confirm the things being said & look deeper into what is going on. There is clear favouritism, sexism, racism, & turning the blind eye in those accusations. Definitely not isolated cases either, a pattern has been outlined going back even to the early days of OG L&O
Really needs to keep spreading. Maybe even have more people come forward. Unlikely, but I'd love for Annie, Adriyan and Lisseth to talk. Their exits from fire and PD were so abrupt, imo.

People in the PD fandom are worried about Tracy now, and tbh, I don't think there's reason to. Not only is she part of the biggest ship on the show, she also joined after the other two women and will probably be being paid less due to that. Amy and Marina are paid more and are both older than Tracy, so will probably be up for the cut first if it came down to it.

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Wow there's so much more than I remember. I just remember seeing something about Mariska not wanting him on her set/show & that he didn't seem to appear after that. But it may have just been that they stopped completely. Especially as he was in the 17x14 one.
Yeah, I think it was the first one he wasn't in. Idk, we know Mariska has a lot of power on SVU (as she should), and isn't afraid to use it - hence the belief that she put a stop to Rollins being killed off. I can definitely see her refusing to have him on her set. If true, it's a shame that it stopped the others from crossing over as well.

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That's a terrible storyline
It was disgusting. One of the unit got attacked, and they had his sister, the friend of the firefighter he was in prison for targeting and harassing (because he refused to lie about his son's DUI almost killing people), pull strings to get the charges against him dropped because she wanted the people that hurt her brother caught and thought he was the only one that could do it (which makes no sense there are other cops). Pretty sure he had already been convicted too.

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Then they've got no excuse. They could've protected Sophia & issues from arising
They could, and instead they seemed to be starting a story that would bring the characters closer together. That's a sick power play if there ever was one.

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hmm that's different to who I was thinking of sounds like then... so at least they made a good decision to not invite back but still concerning
It's interesting because the one they did invite back had accusations BEFORE he was invited back, iirc. The other was a bigger character on the show (I assume. I have not got to the other guy yet), and the accusations came out as casting was being announced, and the only comment was that they hadn't been planning on asking (I kinda doubt that).

shinebrighterxx 08-28-2022 11:57 PM

A former employee making comments is interesting... I'd imagine that there's some interesting calls happening behind the scenes too which are less likely to be picked up on...

Hopefully no one in PD gets cut for pay reasons & they're all safe :look:

That storyline just gets worse & more twisted :rolleyes:. I hate when things HAVE to be a certain cop, when in reality there are LOTS of cops. Anyone could do it.

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That's a sick power play if there ever was one.
Exactly

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It's interesting because the one they did invite back had accusations BEFORE he was invited back, iirc. The other was a bigger character on the show (I assume. I have not got to the other guy yet), and the accusations came out as casting was being announced, and the only comment was that they hadn't been planning on asking (I kinda doubt that).
Very, very interesting :look:. They shouldn't be inviting people back if they know there are accusations :facepalm:. At least with the second they could claim they weren't planning on it.
Who I was thinking of was on L&O for a bit, then went off to do movies or something, then came back & was in CI for a bit. Interestingly his partner kept changing so now makes me wonder if there were issues & those females kept leaving... but then accusations only came out in the last two or so years? Including one from his time on CI. I know the S&TC reboot thing didn't ask him back although they'd been planning on, then other shows were dropping him. Not sure if he was in consideration for L&O too but doubt he was since he did have another show at the time.

BlondieLeigh 08-29-2022 10:50 AM

Can only imagine how much more there is than what we do know.

Tbh I'm getting annoyed about people telling everyone to calm down about Kelli. This isn't just about Kelli anymore, it's far bigger than that, it's a pattern of racism, sexism, ageism, and favouritism, and potentially of allowing abusive people to remain on set while their victims leave. Yes it's about Kelli, but it's also about Sophia, and Lisseth, and Annie, and Adriyan, and Norma, and Jon, and Jamie, and Demore, and Jill, and Diane etc. The list just gets longer.

Honestly think when SVU ends and Mariska talks, it could be explosive.

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Hopefully no one in PD gets cut for pay reasons & they're all safe
They better be. PD has the smallest cast so I guess that may keep the costs down too. Sad they keep the problems around, though.

Med may potentially have it's own Mariska in S. Epatha Merkerson, but neither she nor Mariska should be needed to stop or limit what is going on, it just shouldn't be happening.

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Exactly
I can remember Hilarie Burton saying at a convention that the abuser on OTH did the same to Sophia there. She was uncomfortable working with Chad and the guy got off on forcing her to do it.

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Who I was thinking of was on L&O for a bit, then went off to do movies or something, then came back & was in CI for a bit. Interestingly his partner kept changing so now makes me wonder if there were issues & those females kept leaving... but then accusations only came out in the last two or so years? Including one from his time on CI. I know the S&TC reboot thing didn't ask him back although they'd been planning on, then other shows were dropping him. Not sure if he was in consideration for L&O too but doubt he was since he did have another show at the time.
One and the same in terms of the one that was accused just as OG L&O was returning. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to try and fit him in in some way, and decided against it when everything came out, especially there was an article announcing that he wasn't a part of it.

shinebrighterxx 09-01-2022 01:07 AM

I'm sure this is barely scratching the surface of what has happened on all the shows :look:

ugh yes! People just don't get it which is annoying. It isn't just about Kelli & it isn't necessarily about getting her job back. It is about the injustice of firing people for no reason & the poor treatment of cast & crew going back for probably 30 years if not more. It is about all the things you said which need to be talked about. This behaviour needs to stop & if people don't talk about it it won't stop

Oh the things Mariska must have to stay silent about :look:

Exactly. Good two shows have that power person, but they shouldn't have to. The cast shouldn't need to be protected by these people

I think I've heard things like that about OTH too. Not sure why but it sounds familiar. Disgusting :no:

Yeah them saying something does make it sound like they were considering it. Or it just was the timing so they wanted to reassure people that he wouldn't be in it so the return of L&O wasn't tainted

BlondieLeigh 09-01-2022 11:18 AM

Honestly, Jesse hurts. And it looks like he was forced out as well, seeing as the statement was near identical to Kelli's, and the tweets he's been liking.

The backlash also seems even bigger though.

They have also given Sophia's abuser a producer credit.

shinebrighterxx 09-02-2022 12:25 AM

That does seem very suspicious then... wouldn't surprise me if he was forced out for the same reason...

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They have also given Sophia's abuser a producer credit.
:facepalm:

Meanwhile they can't keep on people who haven't done anything wrong...


I really hope that things are blowing up at least for NBC if not Dick Wolf/Wolf Entertainment too. Preferably the later as I feel that there's some bad & suspicious things going on there which NBC may not directly be involved in.

BlondieLeigh 09-02-2022 10:12 AM

There's something going on and it stinks.

Sucks to be their social media teams but the backlash is 100% deserved.

PurpleLily 09-03-2022 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BlondieLeigh (Post 107114384)
^ If he named the character, he likely knows firsthand, so that's pretty interesting.

That is what I thought. David Matthews (Davidm1108) was the writer for her first episode "Scorched Earth" so he did introduce her. I believe he worked on the show for around two years/seasons? He also is a black man. Chances are he has experienced or seen some things during his time so would know, but it also seems like he is silenced too.

I cannot help but wonder if the actors and crew are silenced in some ways to try protect the Wolf Entertainment name?

At least some things are coming out now and there is some backlash, but time will tell if it actually gets anywhere.

BlondieLeigh 09-03-2022 12:15 PM

Probably an NDA in place stopping him from saying too much. Those can't be used to cover up criminal behaviour though...

It's a lot of backlash at this point. Every tweet NBC and wolfent makes gets flooded.

shinebrighterxx 09-03-2022 03:49 PM

But is anyone listening to it? I think right now they're just hoping it goes away over time :look:

I'd presume a NDA exists anywhere they can :nod: :look: then current actors & crew probably don't say things in fear for their jobs

BlondieLeigh 09-03-2022 03:57 PM

A couple of the Chicago Fire cast have indirectly responded so they definitely know.

Tbh I'm not expecting it to go anywhere but that doesn't mean it should stop.


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