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Old 10-16-2019, 07:42 PM
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Titans (2018 - present) #2: "From sidekicks to heroes."


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Titans follows the young superheroes of the eponymous team as they combat evil and other perils.
Disbanded when the story begins, the series sees the team return when the original and new members
reform the Titans. The Titans fight crime throughout various locations, with their base of operations
in San Francisco.

The first members of the team to appear in the series are Batman's former vigilante partner
Dick Grayson, extraterrestrial Kory Anders, empath Rachel Roth, and shapeshifter Garfield "Gar" Logan.
Dick is later revealed as one of the original Titans, alongside half-Amazon Donna Troy and crime-fighting
duo Dawn Granger and Hank Hall. After the Titans reform, the team is joined by Batman's new partner
Jason Todd, assassin Rose Wilson, and genetic clone Conner.

Cast
Anna Diop as Koriand'r / Kory Anders / Starfire
Brenton Thwaites as Dick Grayson / Robin / Nightwing
Teagan Croft as Rachel Roth
Ryan Potter as Garfield "Gar" Logan
Curran Walters as Jason Todd / Robin
Minka Kelly as Dawn Granger / Dove
Alan Ritchson as Hank Hall / Hawk
Conor Leslie as Donna Troy / Wonder Girl
Chelsea Zhang as Rose Wilson
Esai Morales as Slade Wilson / Deathstroke
Joshua Orpin as Conner / Subject 13


Episodes
Season 1 (2018)
1x01 "Titans"
1x02 "Hawk and Dove"
1x03 "Origins"
1x04 "Doom Patrol"
1x05 "Together"
1x06 "Jason Todd"
1x07 "Asylum"
1x08 "Donna Troy"
1x09 "Hank and Dawn"
1x10 "Koriand'r"
1x11 "Dick Grayson"

Season 2 (2019)
2x01 "Trigon"
2x02 "Rose"
2x03 "Ghosts"
2x04 "Aqualad"
2x05 "Deathstroke"
2x06 "Conner"
2x07 "Bruce Wayne"
2x08 "Jericho"
2x09 "Atonement"
2x10 "Fallen"
2x11 "E.L._.O."
2x12 "Faux Hawk"
2x13 "Nightwing"




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Old 10-16-2019, 08:18 PM
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Bringing this over from the old thread:
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Some bullet-point thoughts on "Trigon":
* Contrary to what seems to have been the "majority opinion", I thought ending Season 1 with the episode "Dick Grayson" was a brilliant decision, setting up the series to return extremely strong

* However, "Trigon" didn't quite live up to its brilliant setup, and, IMO, the reason is that I don't think the episode was presented to us as originally shot, but was instead cobbled together from both originally-filmed material and new pick-up stuff that didn't quite work and was more extensive than it needed to be

* I did enjoy the continuation of Trigon's dream sequence manipulation as established with the Season 1 finale, with the most exciting being Jason's scenario where he and Dick went toe-to-toe

* In a negative contrast to that, though, I was extremely let down by Hank and Dawn's scenario, which felt anticlimactic and not worthy of the characters

* As neat as it was to see Trigon manipulate some of our characters into going dark, the episode started to go downhill as Raven somewhat anticlimactically freed Dick and then had a haphazardly rushed confrontation with her father that was more than likely a much larger part of the episode as originally filmed

* Compounding the problems with that scene, we then transitioned into a series of scenes that were not only clearly pick-up scenes, but that also didn't mesh well with the first half of the episode

* We didn't need to see Jason randomly interrupt a television interview just to throw out a provocative one-liner that was very clearly included only to facilitate the introduction of Slade Wilson, a sequence that took way too much time and would have played much better as a 'stinger'

* We also didn't need to have Ian Glen's Bruce Wayne show up for as long as he did; we did need to see him and Dick talk in order for Dick to finally move on and overcome the psychological trauma he'd been dealing with for all of Season 1, but the sequence would have been better served if it were to have come as the denouement of the episode rather than as setup for a pointless sequence of scenes where the Titans team heads to San Francisco and sets up shop in what is presumably Titans Tower

After the brilliant conclusion to Season 1, Titans unfortunately returned with less of a bang than it needed to and with an episode that suffered from clearly not being presented as originally shot but was instead hybridized and rewritten in a much more haphazard fashion than it should have been.
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FYI, the OP is missing three main cast members:
Chelsea Zhang (Rose Wilson)
Essai Morales (Deathstroke)*
Joshua Orpin (Conner Kent)

* Essai has been given a "Special Appearance By" credit, but he's definitely a main cast member
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Old 10-18-2019, 06:35 PM
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Titans 02x07: Bruce Wayne

Really tense episode loved all the mental haunting Dick & Bruce scenes
Just an all around emotional good episode.
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Some quick thoughts on Episodes 2-4:
* I really like the show's take on Rose, Doctor Light, Deathstroke,and Garth, although I do wish we'd seen more of the latter before his untimely death

* I didn't really like the fact that the writers sidelined Kory with having to deal with a summons back home, largely because it's a cliched story and it would have been more satisfying narratively to have her show up in San Francisco and then receive the call to go back home

* Because we'd already seen the writers go that route with Gar in Season 1, the tactic of introducing Jericho and then not going back to his story for a while felt repetitive and unsatisfying

* The cliffhanger with Jason in Episode 3 was well-executed, but kind of meaningless since it's pretty obvious that it's a fakeout... especially since it wasn't followed up on immediately
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Some quick thoughts on Episodes 2-4:
* I really like the show's take on Rose, Doctor Light, Deathstroke,and Garth, although I do wish we'd seen more of the latter before his untimely death

* I didn't really like the fact that the writers sidelined Kory with having to deal with a summons back home, largely because it's a cliched story and it would have been more satisfying narratively to have her show up in San Francisco and then receive the call to go back home

* Because we'd already seen the writers go that route with Gar in Season 1, the tactic of introducing Jericho and then not going back to his story for a while felt repetitive and unsatisfying

* The cliffhanger with Jason in Episode 3 was well-executed, but kind of meaningless since it's pretty obvious that it's a fakeout... especially since it wasn't followed up on immediately
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More quick thoughts on Titans Season 2 (through Episode 6):
* As neat as it was to see another flashback episode and learn about the old Titans' first encounters with Doctor Light and Deathstroke, it was good to get back to the present storyline and resolve the fakeout cliffhanger from Episode 3

* I'm glad that Kory finally rejoined the gang in San Fran, and liked that Raven chose to confide in her about what's going on with her powers

* There's clearly more going on with Rose since we saw her body repair itself and revive her, but I wish such a big reveal hadn't been just thrown out there in the middle of two other crises (Jason's abduction and Raven's power issues)

* I liked getting to see Conner experience the world and try to connect with the past embedded in his consciousness, from seeing fleeting memories of Martha Kent to meeting Lionel Luthor and the scientist who helped create him, Eve Watson, and Joshua Orpin did a great job emoting and conveying wonder, confusion, and anger by turns

* Speaking of Eve Watson, I like that the creators, producers, and showrunners chose to create a brand-new, completely original character when there are any number of already-existing characters from the DC pantheon that they could've used to fill her role; it helps give Titans a mythos that is both familiar and unique and also introduces another really great female character

* It really didn't feel like 3 months had passed between when Conner escaped Cadmus Labs and when he rescued Jason

* "Conner" was, on the whole, a very strong introduction to the "Super" side of the Titans universe and set the stage for some very interesting stories to come as the new Titans get to know Conner and integrate him into their team while also having to continue to deal with the ongoing threat of Deathstroke

* It'll be interesting to see if Mercy and Cadmus end up crossing paths with Slade at any point, or if the show holds off Mercy encountering the team for Season 3
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You're welcome. I'm glad to see the comments and summaries! I haven't had a chance to watch this season yet, but once I do, I hope to be able to contribute.

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FYI, the OP is missing three main cast members:
Chelsea Zhang (Rose Wilson)
Essai Morales (Deathstroke)*
Joshua Orpin (Conner Kent)

* Essai has been given a "Special Appearance By" credit, but he's definitely a main cast member
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