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Thanks for the new thread, Jen!
Hi, Sarah! It's okay, we're glad to see you here. Petra, this is the kind of bull Hank Pym is going through in Soul World while the MCU has Hank and Janet as old people and Scott Lang as Ant-Man. This bull will not stop until the MCU is fixed.
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Well I don't know why they are doing that, but I'm not as opposed to it as you are either.
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Back to antman see I didn't know they did the script that long ago .. Wow that was years ago .. but how long was the contract in place for ? I mean antman was made what 3 years ago they couldn't fix the script than ? __________________
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Yes, Edgar's script was written years before the MCU even existed, back in the days when superhero movies were stand alone films and there were no shared universes in cinema. And I guess when Marvel bought back the rights to the character, Edgar's script got "grandfathered" into the MCU, which I think is stupid because if you're making a shared universe where the Avengers exist, each movie has to be compatible with that storyline, and Edgar's Ant-Man was not. That's why Scott and Hope hardly have anything to do with the Avengers storyline in the MCU. That's why Hawkeye was a zombie for most of the first Avengers movie and why Black Widow has been mostly in over her head in most of these films, because they were never supposed to be there in the first place. Joss Whedon himself said the reason he was asked to write Hank and Janet out of his Avengers scripts and replace them with Hawkeye and Black Widow was because "Edgar had him first," regarding Hank Pym. So they felt contractually obligated to accommodate Edgar, even if it meant shoehorning his script into an MCU it was never meant to be part of, and having Joss rearrange the entire Avengers storyline to account for Hank and Janet's absence. In the comics, Hank and Janet are founding Avengers, but in the MCU, it's Hawkeye and Black Widow. In the comics, Hank Pym is Ultron's creator, but in the MCU, it's Tony Stark. In the comics, Janet is the ONLY Wasp in the Avengers for the past five decades and was leader of the Avengers after Captain America. In the MCU, Janet is a minor character and Hope is the main Wasp, which is an insult considering she doesn't even exist in the comics. Hank and Janet never had children and they're both only in their 30's. And for what? Edgar quit the production because he didn't want to alter his film to fit the MCU, and Marvel admitted that his script didn't work in the MCU. The problem is, you'd think they could've figured that out just from reading his script. They didn't have to use his script, and the changes they made to the Avengers in the MCU sure didn't improve the story at all. But what's even worse is what's happening to Hank and Janet in the comics because of Marvel having to help promote the MCU... by pushing Hank and Janet aside. __________________
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Ok so they just did everything for him Edgar.. ?
So I don't blame marvel it is the silly fine line with productions and the red tape that is all behind the scenes .. Cause Josh wehdon could of put them in and they would of been a huge part of the movie .. it is a shame . __________________
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Yes, this is mostly just because of stupid studio politics and contractual agreements, and not about storytelling. But the fact remains that Hank and Janet are two of the founding members of the Avengers and have been in the Avengers longer than anyone, and they are the only Ant-Man and Wasp who belong in the MCU because it's their story, no one else's. __________________
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Hey guys! Popping in before i go to church in like 45 mins.
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hope your doing well Jac
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Hi, Jen! Wow, thanks for agreeing with me, Petra. The MCU is setting off my OCD something fierce. __________________
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Oh yep I'm doing okay everyone
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