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destroyer of worlds

TFTNT, April!

a little chaos

TFTNT

Excited to see everyone’s thoughts on this ep.

kiss the wind

I’ve been spoiled, and I’m very curious to see what y’all say.

a little chaos

Same, Amelia.

I’ll be at work during the episode, but will be in and out.

April7739

Phew, I’m so glad I avoided all the spoilers about these first two episodes! Once they got leaked, that was nerve-racking.

I have thoughts. For sure.

And I know what I’m claiming tomorrow if it’s still available.

loppabelle

Someone, anyone, please give Mr. Morley an acting gig outside of the CW. Dude ain’t no joke. I wasn’t even paying attention to the show but his acting. Damn. The way he flipped that switch to crazyBellamy was out of control.

kiss the wind

Bob needs to pursue serious acting more because he’s one of the only cast members who is believable.

a little chaos

My favourite Bellamy gif ever...

April7739

It really is a fantastic Bellamy gif and is going to come in handy as a reaction gif. I love it!

Yeah, when he was standing at the door getting angrier and starting to take on a different tone with people, it was pretty unsettling.

My mom and I were talking this morning, and we were wondering what it was like for him and Eliza to shoot that strangling scene, given how close they are. Someone should ask them about that at conventions.

loppabelle

Just bringing this over and I’ll add on.

Poor Clarke. She looked deathly afraid and I was like girl, me too! Bellamy was scary last night. All of their scenes were so intriguing. Even at the worst moments that they weren’t even friends in s1, it never got that volatile between them. It was rough. But if there is a god, let this lead to a real heart to heart without some person interrupting. They need a good honest no holds barred scene. If crying and angers are revealed, so be it but no more tiptoeing around each other. The one thing we’ve always had with Bellarke is complete transparency. I want that to continue.

I also wondered if Bellamy saying now you die is something in future episodes where it’s revealed about that’s what he felt leaving Clarke on earth. Like a little piece of himself died. I’m probably giving way too credit to Jason. Way too much! But any writer worth their salt would write that line as something else down the road. But with the crumbs this show tosses out to the poor bellarke fandom, it’s probably nothing. I want it all explored. Bellarke need a long scene to discuss it all.

a little chaos

My thoughts: (I'm in a rush so there may be typos )

Clarke

My poor baby Clarke, the whole episode I just wanted to give her a hug, rock her back and forth, stroke her hair, tell her everything is gonna be OK, maybe run her a bath with candles and just love her forever. I like S6 Clarke so far and it was nice to see her bite back at Murphy and own that "bad guy" role they seem to have branded her with. Suicidal Clarke made me sad it was interesting that all the others were aggressive under the eclipse, but Clarke was, as Murphy put it "only a danger to herself", her hallucination of Abby reminded me of RavALIE a bit, so far Clarke has been called "poison to anyone who gets close" "a toxin" and "a cancer" and its sad to know she thinks all these things about herself too.

Bellamy

Firstly, lets give Bob all the awards, brilliant acting fom him in this episode, he properly freaked me out, and that tongue thing he kept on doing, never thought Bob could play Bellamy as creepy but he did, and his "court jester" line cracked me up, also did anyone notice that he tried to bite Murphy?

It was interesting to see how the eclipse affected him and how it was different to the others, he was so angry and murderous, which shows that Bellamy keeps so many emotions buried deep and that, compared to other characters (Murphy, Octavia) who I think are very outward characters, this episode also showed just how dangerous Bellamy could be, I mean the dude was strangling Clarke whilst stabbing Murphy at one point.

I don't actually buy the whole "Bellamy is very angry at Clarke" thing though, yes they have issues that they haven't addressed and he's still pissed at her for leaving him in the pit, but i think that all came out in an unhealthy way due to the eclipse, those feelings he had were magnified , so i'm not taking everything that he said to heart, plus a lot of it didn't make sense, I think there were half truths so a lot of what he said, but I won't be taking it literally.

Echo

Not a lot of Echo, but what we did get was quality, I know most people probably slept on it but Echo knocked herself out mid psychosis, the amount of willpower that must have taken is UNREAL, plus she had Emori sassing her and Bellamy banging on the door, plus the voices in her head, the intelligence it would have taken to do that is crazy.

And onto the voices, they were saying "bring me her head" and "slit their throats" I'm guessing that was Queen Nia and I 100% believe Echo killed Costia, but we will have to wait and see, I think that small Echo moment was planting the seed for a bigger SL for her later in the season. I CANNOT WAIT.

I have to go to work now so i'll write about the other characters later, just wanted to get my faves done

April7739

Becks, I'm going to post my thoughts, too, but I definitely want us to talk about Bellamy in this episode! I think 6x02 proves that Bellamy . . . man, the boy has done some WORK on himself, because there is a lot still simmering beneath the surface.




Crazy episode. Pun intended. I liked the premiere better overall, but there was still some good stuff here, with several cast members really getting a chance to let loose.


Eclipse storyline in general: So I wonder, is this it? So much of what they showed us in the trailers has happened in these first two episodes. I hope this isn’t a storyline like the worms last season that is just introduced for one episode and then really doesn’t have much of a point.


The children at the end: Where TF are the adults? And just how badly does Mama Bear Bellamy want to adopt all of them?


Flashbacks: These were okay. The girl was definitely a Clarke lookalike. That had to be purposeful, right? Anyway, I’m more attached to flashbacks when they involve characters we actually know and love, so I hope we don’t have too many flashbacks to this group this season. I wonder if Sanctum is actually this moon, or if it’s the planet . . . I’m so confused, tbh. And more interested in character storylines than in the overall mythology.


So speaking of characters . . .


Clarke: Another crap on Clarke episode. Look. I’m not saying that everyone has to be happy with her. I even agree that her saving their lives in Praimfaya doesn’t mean people have to sweep her wrongdoings under the rug. But it just seems so OTT this season that it feels kind of weird. Raven and Murphy have never lashed out at Clarke quite like this. This is the second season in a row now where Eliza has had to act out a scene of Clarke nearly killing herself, and once again, she did an incredible job. That has to be difficult. It’s very telling that Clarke’s hatred is turned inward. Totally makes sense and is in character. I really don’t understand how some viewers are able to feel sorry for Octavia and see tragedy in her storyline but not do the same with Clarke. Clarke has become such a tragic figure in this universe. She definitely has made some questionable calls, and she was downright spiraling after she left Bellamy with Wonkru. But she did snap herself out of it, and she wants to do better now. That’s gotta be pretty hard to do with everyone always telling you how horrible you are. And this is a difference between her and Octavia, btw. Octavia doesn’t necessarily want to do better. This episode showed us that she wants to die. (Also tragic.) As a viewer, I’m not asking for the audience to completely excuse her actions. I mean, I want her to be held accountable. But I think we see that Clarke also holds herself accountable. She takes on that burden of being the bad guy. And it’s a bit frustrating to only hear her bad decisions thrown back in her face without ever having her heroic decisions brought up. I feel like Bellamy is reminded of his bad decisions a lot, too, but not as much lately, because he’s been making a lot better decisions. Which, okay, fair enough, Clarke needs to learn to make better decisions more consistently. But this taunting (and yes, that’s what it feels like at times) is weighing on her so heavily that she nearly committed suicide. That’s awful. Thankfully Murphy stopped her. I would like to think that, no matter how mad these people are at her, none of them would want her to kill herself.


Bellamy: “Court jester” is everything. The devastated look he gave Clarke after he realized what he’d done is EVERYTHING. Whereas Clarke’s eclipse-induced actions were pretty self-explanatory, I feel like Bellamy’s are a little more complicated. And I’m still in the process of interpreting them myself. Bellamy straight up turns into a maniacal killer, which is someone he had the potential to become in season 3 if he hadn’t righted his wrongs and gotten himself back on a different path. He seems to think that he could save all these people by killing them, perhaps a throwback to him wanting to save his people by killing the Grounders in season 3. His line to Clarke about not needing her anymore cuts deep, but it’s not entirely untrue. As I posted in the Bellarke thread, he’s a lot more confident nowadays and has such a stronger sense of self and self-worth. He’s become a head/heart guy, and he’s done well with that. Clarke was always that person who had faith in him, but now he has faith in himself, too. Which is actually quite healthy. But even if he might not need her around, he wants her around. And it’s an interesting role reversal because Clarke seems to need Bellamy nowadays more than ever. Like she needed him for 6 years of isolation on the radio. I enjoyed his little moment of levity with, “In fairness, that was me,” when talking to Murphy. And Bob managed to get Bellamy to come across as truly eerie tonight. An insane Bellamy is a formidable threat, and I liked the fight scene. (Happy to know that they filmed that three months later than the episode was shot.) Ultimately, this episode showed us that Bellamy does have anger. It came out towards Clarke and Murphy, but it would have been interesting to see how it would have come out with Echo, too, had she been out and about, or with Octavia had she been there. Poor guy just wanted everyone to get along. He looked horrified by what he had done. Obviously this is not how he wanted to express how he feels, but I think it’s better that it’s at least out in the open now, because otherwise it would fester and grow, and that’d be a lot of anger and hurt for him to just carry around.

Also, random, but I loved how Bellamy got to hold onto everyone’s keys, but he trusted Clarke to hold onto his.


Murphy: Episode MVP for sure. I mean, he was the only one who was unaffected, so it kind of came down to him to keep Clarke from killing herself and Bellamy from killing . . . well, everyone. I’m very curious as to why Murphy wasn’t affected. Is it something biological? Just a random immunity like Octavia and Finn had back during the “I Am Become Death” episode? Or does it have something to do with his personality, as his “demons” that he needs to face always hover closer to the surface and he doesn’t really bury them a whole lot? And what’s with the black veins at the end? A side effect? I really don’t know what to make of it. But what I do know is that, while last episode I could kind of explain Murphy’s treatment of Clarke as his usual snarkiness, tonight it upset me a bit. Again, it was just so blatant and incessant. But I liked the way Richard delivered the line of, “Did you draw Bellamy in the fighting pit?” That was a resonant moment. (Actually, come to think of it, it would be interesting to see Clarke draw that.) I really have no idea what storyline they have in mind for Murphy this season, but I like that it seems to have a little more direction than the one last season had. But Richard is so damn good that he can pretty much sell anything the writers give him.

And this trio of Murphy, Bellamy, and Clarke . . . honestly, does the show need any other characters? I would watch a show about just the three of them.


Echo: Let’s be honest, her small amount of screen time tonight worked for me. I don’t have much to say about this. It didn’t really land with me. The “bring me her head” line is interesting in that it could reference Costia, but I don’t really know how much more could be done with that since Lexa is long gone. But I guess it’d be interesting to see how Lexa fans (many of whom seem to also be big Echo fans) reconcile this, if the theory is indeed correct.


Emori: Very little screen time tonight for Emori, but Luisa played Emori almost taking delight in being crazy, which was a different approach than the others took. She seemed to target her rage on Murphy, which was interesting.


Jackson/Miller: I like them both, but they didn’t do much tonight. Miller’s line about, “We’re staying in here,” is probably what I would have said.


Octavia: Woo, talk about some polarizing thoughts. I have some here. First of all, I want to reiterate that Marie is just amazing. She really goes for it, and I still think she’s the best actress on this show. That said, the character is still infuriating right now, to me, at least. She definitely was provoking those people to try to kill her, so I can kind of excuse what she said in that regard. But another part of me won’t excuse it. Jordan lost his parents very recently, in his perception. He went into cryo when they were alive, woke up, and they’re gone. So for her to say what she did about Monty was simply too far. And I wonder how much of this savior complex she seems to have is actually true. Does she actually believe that she saved them? I think she does. Which is ridiculous! She united the clans as Wonkru, and she kept them alive, but she didn’t save anyone by burning down that hydrofarm, or insisting on war and marching them into that gorge. I still don’t see her fully owning her choices in all of this. But I think we’re working to that point. I still see her wanting to pass the blame off on someone like Abby. Yes, Abby shares the blame, but Octavia can’t completely pass it off to someone else. Contrast this to Clarke, who said, “Fine, I’ll be the bad guy,” and we have Octavia, who doesn’t yet want to fully admit how bad she was. I think that Octavia’s storyline has been fleshed out well enough that people can empathize with her, but the longer this goes on, the more sympathy I lose. Also, I want to mention that the similarities with wanting to die are so similar to Jasper, and it just boggles my mind how some people who are probably very pro-Octavia and sympathize with her a lot also had no sympathy for Jasper. Jasper’s PTSD was very much the result of being a victim of trauma, whereas Octavia’s is more so of being a perpetrator of it. Both are tragic characters. I was glad they had some people try to kill Octavia, though, because I said it would be really unrealistic if nobody tried to take her out after what she did as Blodreina and how dictatorial she was.


Jordan: He still wasn’t given much to do yet, but he remains a nice guy. I mean, can you even imagine living the life he has lived, waking up, meeting people for the first time in his life, and being thrust into such a crazy situation of life and death? Also, I just LOVED how he stood up for his father when Octavia said that Monty was a coward.


Abby: Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I was kind of glad to see Abby stand up to Octavia. I think Octavia does feel bad about what she’s done, so Abby wasn’t exactly right in what she said. And yes, I'll admit, it does come off as a little bit preachy. But I don't want Abby to just stand there and let Octavia try to justify her own actions, either. The difference I see between them right now isn’t that one feels bad and the other doesn’t. It’s that one feels bad and wants to do better now, whereas the other feels bad and wants it all to just be over. I applaud Abby for telling them not to kill Octavia because Octavia needs to live with what she’s done. I think that living with your past is one of the most painful yet admirable things a person can do. Octavia could look to her brother as an example of this and of how it can get better. Abby is far from my favorite character, and she could definitely self-reflect some more, but then again, so can Octavia.


Raven: Didn’t really do a whole lot tonight. I know we’re supposed to feel bad about Shaw, but . . . I just don’t. Nothing about that ship ever really resonated with me. It just felt flat, and it was so rushed, and everyone knows I’m not a fan of a rushed ship. And I kind of felt like, last season, Raven didn’t really have much of a storyline and was kind of just there to be paired up with Shaw, so actually, I’m kind of glad to see him go, because I want something more interesting for Raven.


Diyoza: Ivana is such an electric actress. Even though I don’t specifically watch the show for Diyoza, I do like her and am glad she survived. She knows how to take charge of a situation, and her character is just really strong and well-written. My goodness, can’t she have this baby, though? The poor woman has been pregnant forever.


Madi: Is it bad to say that I was hoping Madi would stay in cryo a bit longer? I just don’t want Clarke’s whole storyline to revolve around her. With that said, her entrance was pretty cool. Why is Gaia awake, though? I know, I know, to teach Madi some things, but . . . Gaia?


Shiit my mom said:
“HERE WE GO AGAIN!” I just love Bob.
Richard is such a good actor! Still can’t believe we met him!
(continues to impersonate Bob’s voice)
I know I haven’t watched every season, but I like Clarke! I feel bad for her.
I like Abby. Wish they’d wake that good-looking Kane up, though.
I wonder how it was for Bob to film those fighting scenes with Eliza and Richard since he’s such close friends with them.
(continues to try to impersonate Bob’s voice, fails miserably)
Some of this goes over my head, but I’m doing alright with it, I think.
Her pro-Bellarke/anti-Becho one, under spoiler tags so Becho fans don’t have to see it:



My episode MVPs so far:

6x01 – Bellamy (Yeah, I’m going with this. He took charge, paid attention to the book, and made Clarke smile and laugh.)
6x02 – Murphy (without a doubt)

wickedrum

loved this episode too! So nice to see them all in the same place, no separate storylines!

April7739

That probably won’t last for long.