crazy_diamond

crazy_diamond

I thought this was an ok eppy, again much more interested in the HH storyline that the flashback...

Rumple:
- No Rumple this week , probably in his apartment drinking himself stupid with whisky

Other stuff:
- I did like the desk Sargent snark before he got zapped by Gothel!
- So Henry is finally believing the book is real..pity Jacinda, at the moment, is thinking 'what is this man saying!' mode..
- Gothel stay away from Tily!! and Tily has people that care for her
- Sorry but the backstory to Gothel doesn't interest me at all
- So the Sargent is under Gothel's spell and now has got the rest of the witches together, wonderful!
- Henry has gone right into detective mode concerning his book!, and where did he get all the photos from and Chip cup mention!!
- Aww loved the steakout with Tily and Rogers. "Right next to the truth and they don't even know it". You don't Tily
- Lovely scene with Jacinda and Lucy, with Lucy telling her to believe..
- Interesting scene with Lucy and Facilier, I must admit I did think Facilier would do a double cross somehow, but he didn't. He helped Lucy and Henry....I'm now thinking hmmm he could be not all evil after all...
- Gothel!!!, capturing her daughter and Rogers and Tily finally knowing that Rogers is her Dad and sort of knowing before then...
- Tily saving her Dad by activating the covern . Not good at all I hope Tily can be rescued...find out next eppy...

Grace52373

I am in the minority but I think the flashback for Gothel was interesting and helped me to understand her a little better. Flashbacks on Once follow two paths, either they give us background info on a character or connect a part of a character's past to the present. This one went the first path.

Basically, Gothel is a tree nymph and I am guessing her people are guardians of this world's magic. Gothel is curious and drawn to the humans and the Regina George type tricks her into showing her and her friends magic and than pulling a Carrie with mud! Gothel than returns home to find everyone dead and her mother dies in her arms. I think what happened was that when the humans found the magical world, they destroyed the tree nymphs thus destroying the magic but as Gothel said earlier, nothing really dies, you just have to find the root and nurse it back to life obviously this was pre weed killers! Gothel goes back for revenge and kills the Regina George archetype! I honestly did not feel bad for Ms. Hitler's death because she basically helped destroy an entire innocent race because in her words, they were "abominations"! It also reminded me of the dark time that the Salem witch craft trials occurred. Gothel finds her first coven member among the mean girls and they go off to find more magical sisters for Gothel to form a coven in order to destroy all the humans.
The sad part is that I believe Gothel's mother meant for her to bring magic back, to heal our land and she was too consumed with grief and guilt to do what her mother wanted. Her story made sense to me and it made sense why she rejected her daughter at first. She literally thinks of humans as pests(I could hear the eco terrorists and the militant animal rights people cheering her on).
The flashback also explained why even though this is the land without magic, it still has magic that is difficult for magic users from the EF to grasp.

The present, Gothel forces the poor cop to awaken her sisters and lure Rogers and Tilly there were under threat of her father's death, Gothel forces Tilly to join her coven and set forth a spell. There was one point, when Gothel told Tilly she was her mother, that I just wanted Gothel to see what she is throwing away. Tilly is such a precious soul. She has the best of her parents and the innocence Gothel once had. I so wanted Gothel to love her daughter but made a bad choice in abandoning her and Emma sold it to the point I wanted to believe her but she was just manipulating her. I felt so bad for Tilly but I am glad she has Weaver, Rogers, and Margot. They will save her, I am sure of it! Tilly deserves better!

As to Lucy and Dr. Facilier, I just wanted to drag that sweet kid away before she made things worse! I don't buy that Dr. Facilier healed Henry. True love kiss between him and Jacinda didn't work and even though they didn't have their memories, they were in love and it should have worked, especially since they both wanted it and to top it off, Facilier has a voodoo doll of Henry. I think Lucy meant well but I think she doomed a lot of people including her dad by trusting Facilier. I am not exactly sure of what is going to happen, but I can see that the price for that magic may very well come into play because Facilier wants Rumple's dagger and for no good reason. Naveen said that he was evil and I believe him. He killed Nick after using him to kill the witches. Just because he didn't have the dagger, doesn't mean he didn't make a move towards it! I can see Facilier holding Henry as a hostage to get that dagger. I am sure of it! I guess we just have to wait and see but I don't trust Dr. Facilier/Samdi at all! I think Rumple and Henry and Sabine/Tiana are going to pay the price for Regina and Lucy's folly!

crazy_diamond

Exactly, her Mother was giving her all the signs to help her people, but no..grief took over..

I must admit I was surprised that he helped her, he must have an alternative motive in doing that, I just don't know what it is

Grace52373

I love the actor playing Dr. Facilier but I just don't trust that he did what he said he did or that he won't exact a heavy price for it.

crazy_diamond

agreed

I did love the Henry/Tily/Detective Rogers scenes in the eppy

Meliana

I wasn't surprised by the lack of Rumple as Robert always has an episode off after a busy episode. Looking forward to seeing him next week!

I knew Gothel would have some powerful reasons why she's doing what she's doing, but it in no way makes me feel sorry for her after what she did to Alice, just because her daughter was half-human. Only now after its all too late she wants to be a mother, just because she's belatedly found out her daughter has magic. No thanks!

I felt like a scene was missing, how was that cop supposed to have woken the other witches?

All the plant related magic of Gothel makes sense now.

I was pleasantly surprised that Facilier cured Henry. I wasn't surprised that the TLK didn't work, seeing as no saviour was involved this time. Snow and David couldn't break the first curse either.

I really enjoyed the episode. So nice to have some bonding scenes with Rogers and Tilly, too.

I want Weaver to save the day next week!

crazy_diamond

Me too Claire!

Loved the Rogers and Tilly scenes

Exactly!

Along with Henry/Jacinda kiss not working, that was the surprise of the eppy for me...I didn't think that would happen...