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Old 05-09-2017, 09:57 PM
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Empire 3x16 "Absent Child" Episode Discussion [05/10/2017]

3x16
"Absent Child"





Cookie takes matters into her own hands when the Lyons suspect the Dubois family is to blame for their latest family crisis; Andre lashed out; Cookie sets her eyes on a new plan fore Empire in Vegas

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Old 05-10-2017, 07:29 PM
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Previously On...
Oh Rhonda telling Andre to take care of Anika... that definitely must mean that that storyline should continue today.

Oh awesome walk with the Lyon Family and company.

Quite meeting......

Oh they are meeting the DuBois....

Cookie going at Diana!

"You're feeling froggy. LEAP." I love Diana. lol Sorry Cookie!
She was gangsta when you were still in diapers.


Angelo saying he had nothing to do with what happened with the baby getting taken....

I love Jamal talking here.....

Everyone talking over each other.
Anika just wants her daughter back so she doesn't care about all this arguing.....

It seems that obvious Andre took Bella... no way was it Diana DuBois....
The Dubois Family has nothing to gain from taking Bella...

Andre does... although if the DuBois did it, I don't see Angelo doing this...


Lucious saying when they hit, they hit real hard.

It seems that Diana is sympathizing with Anika...
Cookie really upset here.
You can tell that Cookie is ready to snap back.

Seeing Anika and Hakeem together, Hakeem looks like her son.

They can't find Bella.

The child was suppose to be released to Anika today but that's not going according to plan.

Haeem having a freak out here....

Cookie seems to not have confidence of herself and family VS the DuBois... because of their strength together and how they have a power that they never competed with again.

Thirsty still going with this being the Dubois since Bella just disappeared...

No one can find her...

On paper they are all unfit, makes sense to me.

Anika has to distance herself from the family....

Lucious with the motivation speech. lol

Andre has been so quite here. lol I just really believe he's responsible. lol
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Nessa performing?

Lucious saying that the show he's seeing isn't good, and giving some suggestions.

Jamal entered the building right when the performance is over...

Lucious and Jamal on the same track with the music again.
Lucous want to remix his song for it won't just be one song on 2 albums.

Porsha and Cookie scene, we didn't get a lot of that this season...

Shine and Andre scene....
They care more about Vegas than finding Bella. lol

Cookie talking up When Cookie Meets Lucious while talking down Inferno..

Andre seems mad, chill dude.:OP

Cookie told Andre to calm down.
HAHA. Porsha talking about she knows a good doctor for Andre. lol

Oh Father and the Sun playing in the background.

They are working with an rapper who supposedly got shot 4 times? okay. lol Hope that works.
Oh they actually made it. lol wow! lol he's really about that thug life.

And Jamal doesn't want to work with him... lol

Oh he sounds like a guy who didn't get shot....
Wow he got bullet holes in his shirt... wow. lol

It seems Lucious just want to show Jamal how it is for people who really care and are willing to die for the song.

Oh. Lucous has a good point here.
That guy got shot 4 times and is stronger, and sadly Jamal got shot once and got a bit weaker.
..... Oh... I like that Jamal confronted Lucious about the fact he couldn't get over his father getting shot so don't give him advice of how he handled it.

It seems Jamal version of the a instrumental is.

Oh a Anika and Andre scene.
Oh he is choking her right now.
h Anika is breaking down right now which is of course making Andre back down from what he's doing... she's basically telling him to kill her...

Of course, he didn't do it.....

Not sure if he took Bella anymore. lol Although I still feel that Andre has the most motive. Like she killed his unborn baby so wouldn't it make sense for him to take hers away from her?
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Hakeem is really beat right now...

Coocious mention... so is the shipper name like an every episode mention now?
Of course Andre doesn't want to work with Lucious....

Cookie reaction.

Hakeem is very upset right now with the DuBois and put them on blast over the internet.

Diana and company wants to take action but Angelo doesn't want to, he said they had nothing to do with what CPS did...
However,.... I wonder now if Diana did it on her own??

Now I'm thinking Diana or Andre. One of them did it. Okay Diana/Andre are TIED with who I think took Bella. lol

Diana is way more evil than Angelo. So, it's difficult to believe what she is saying. lol

I hope that Lyon aren't making an war with the wrong people here....
They DuBois reputation getting ruined from being around those Lyons. I really wish Angelo would've never even met Cookie man. Being involved with her has destroyed his life....

DuBois is going to have to strike back....

Leah and Lucious scene that I actually like.
Lucious asking his mother Leah, if he's a good father and Leah telling him that he's not even a good father.

Andre and Cookie scene....
Cookie upset with Andre's actions..
"You say you're looking out for us. You always end up protecting Lucious." HAVE I NOT BEEN SAYING THIS FOR THE PAST 2 SEASONS????
#TeamAndre in this scene.

I love Andre saying in this scene. He's completely correct.....

Oh Cookie blaming stuff to Giuliana...

Oh Nessa interrupted...
Of course Cookie ain't gonna like this.


Oh she set Nessa straight. She slapped her straight down.

Yup, this is who Cookie is...

I feel Nessa shouldn't really have gotten in between the conversation but to slap Nessa like that? Umm... not sure if I agree with that.
She was just sticking up for Andre and it seems I've seen people do worst to Cookie.

Leah and Lucious talking about when he was a boy and his father.
Lucious saying how Jama didn't hesitate before jumping into a bullet for him.
Leah sees something special in Jamal.

Well she's actually saying something nice to Lucious here...

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Jamal and Lucious scene.
It seems that speech with Leah helped Lucious get his head straight and he's taking his advice.

Joe Walker... or Walker as in Lucious real last name....

Lucious going to do the song Jama's way and is tired of fighting against Jamal... yeah us viewers are tired of it as well. Give us that growth please!

I like this song. ♬ ♭
Such a catchy good song.

Love and Happiness song!
Throw back song. For a minute I thought we were in flashbacks. lol

Cookie and Andre have been against each other's choices all day.

Angelo getting tortured...
Aww Angelo. He wants Cookie to believe him.... I feel so bad for Angelo for getting involved with her... He AlWAYS Deserved better than Miss Ghetto.

I know why Cookie doesn't believe him but yeah...
She told Angelo to talk to her mother, Diana because she knows that she has something to do with Bella being missing.

Aww too bad for Angelo.
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Cookie doesn't believe Angelo is in on what happened to Bella.
Cookie saying how the fans want them together...

Oh Giuliana here again....

Cookie with that jealousy and I don't really feel bad for her of course.

Cookie is upset with Lucious choice not to do what she wants...
"I did 17 years for you." Um Cookie, that line is so paid out.
Team Giulana for saying thanks for that. lol

It seems Andre is distancing himself from Nessa again...

Poor Nessa. She is just very upset right now....
Nessa just realizing Andre's crazy side...

Seems she's walking away from Nessa....


Oh Diana took Bella... yup that became obvious as the episode went along....
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Old 05-10-2017, 09:48 PM
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I saw that break up coming 3 episodes I'm sad but I knew after Julianna came Andre and Nessa were gonna break up his mama slapping her was the last straw I knew it and she's heartbroken as she should I knew he was gonna break her heart i knew it

now for the rest of the episode
hakeem made me sad he was so upset poor baby that was his new edition movie acting right there i actually felt his pain

I cant believe the dubouis really took the baby
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I saw that break up coming 3 episodes I'm sad but I knew after Julianna came Andre and Nessa were gonna break up his mama slapping her was the last straw I knew it and she's heartbroken as she should I knew he was gonna break her heart i knew it

now for the rest of the episode
hakeem made me sad he was so upset poor baby that was his new edition movie acting right there i actually felt his pain

I cant believe the dubouis really took the baby
I thought they would take her because they want to paint the Dubois in the wrong. Plus Diana did declare war on the Lyons so its unsurprising.
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It shocked me because I didn't she actually gonna stoop that low for being the type of family they are and Angelo is punk ass and in the beginning of the episode they really made it seem like Andre did it
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It shocked me because I didn't she actually gonna stoop that low for being the type of family they are and Angelo is punk ass and in the beginning of the episode they really made it seem like Andre did it
Yeah, I think they wanted it to seem really shocking so they set up like its Andre and that Cookie/Lucious were jumping to conclusions only for it to be Diana. I think they really want to play Angelo as the ultimate victim and Diana as a bougie apologist.
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he's in it somehow though he wants Anika to suffer and everyone else is collateral damage
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Well for me, I feel more sad for Angelo in this situation. Ain't his fault he fell for the wrong person.

If it was Cookie and someone hurt any of her sons the way she hurt Angelo, Cookie would've done some extremes as Diana did. Probably not take a baby but she would've done something bad to the other family for messing with one of her boys.

Diana warned Cookie in the beginning of the season that she loves her first but that fire better not burn her soon, and once that burned her son, she was out for blood in the exact same way Cookie or even Lucious would have been.

#TeamAngelo....
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Well for me, I feel more sad for Angelo in this situation. Ain't his fault he fell for the wrong person.

If it was Cookie and someone hurt any of her sons the way she hurt Angelo, Cookie would've done some extremes as Diana did. Probably not take a baby but she would've done something bad to the other family for messing with one of her boys.

Diana warned Cookie in the beginning of the season that she loves her first but that fire better not burn her soon, and once that burned her son, she was out for blood in the exact same way Cookie or even Lucious would have been.

#TeamAngelo....
Clearly since you called her a ghetto girl.
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Clearly since you called her a ghetto girl.
Just going by what she called herself. lol
And in the episode it's how she acted.

Cookie is my favorite character of the series, tied with Jamal but I don't just automatically take her side because she's Cookie...

I don't see anything Angelo has done wrong in this situation yet.
If anything, he has an evil mother, Diana. That's not his fault.

Just like Jamal has a father who once told him the day he dies from aids, he'll celebrate. ANd still Jamal wants to have a relationship with Lucious.

None of us can control who our parents are.
I don't see how Angelo is the problem for falling in love with Cookie when she's the one who broke his heart.
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Angelo isn't the problem he's just gonna get caught up in it sad but true
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^ Now everything Angelo does from here and forward is his fault but as I mentioned, I don't think that Angelo will tell on his mother.

Just like I wouldn't expect Hakeem, Jamal and Andre to tell on their mother....

The problem is that these sons probably respect their mother too much. And that's not a bad thing... well sort of. When you have mother's taking kids, that's crossing the line but since Angelo got beat up and everything, not sure what he'll do but at least he is starting to see how evil his mother can really be since it seems he is blinded himself to it.
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omg what if he dies
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omg what if he dies
Guess it'd be okay for most fans since he doesn't seem liked. lol
Angelo dying and Diana living though? That would just make a more revengeful Diana so that wouldn't be good for the Lyons if he died by their hands or something.

This storyline is either ending with Angelo turning on his mother or joining forces 100% with his mother....
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I can only see this storyline with someone dying
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