ina_am

TwoForATable

Oh wow! Hadn't seen that picture of Ethan! So, so handsome and fierce! Oh la la!
The hours are just taking too long... I can barely manage my anxiety, it's like a mix of joy and fear and God I hope this show gets renewed!

ina_am

I'll be watching it first time tomorrow Hopefully the renewal announcement will come out soon!

Ethan looks really great on that pic

Hawthorn

I will only watch tomorrow, but I'm panicking a bit inside and wondering whether I should read some spoilery bits tomorrow morning to prepare myself in case of... I don't know. Anything.

val ღ

Not only the ending was awful but they didn't let us know this was the series finale.. they confirm it now it's over. But as the episode progressed and after Vanessa died I figured it was the end

Moons112

Maybe the words "the end" are just for give more doors and start again with a late renewal. Vanessa could have a reincarnation, played too for Eva Green, jut like happened with Joan/Seward.
surely won´t be renewed and that was the ending...but Logan did not have more chance that kill Vanessa? he gave her soul to God for save to everyone, he sacrificed her love, her life.
But Ethan entering in her room WHYYYY ETHAN? ...

TwoForATable

What I want to say was that never had I cried so much with a series or invested myself so much with characters. When Vanessa died, it hurt me so much I could barely breathe and was sobbing, as if I were in that room with them, looking at her and Ethan so beautiful and yes, doomed. My heart is heavy and hurting as though an actual loved one had died, as if a great friend of mine had died.

In all honestly I understand why many of you disliked this finale so much, but the more it sinks in the more I realize that there was no other outcome for her but death. And God she was glorious in it!

Their goodbye was the most beautiful thing I ever saw in the history of romantic and tragic goodbyes - it was perfect. The kiss, the tenderness, the prayer. Vanessa had said in a letter in season 1 that only she could kill Mina, because she loved her enough to do it. I feel like without knowing it, Vanessa prophecied hers and Ethan's own ending and as much as I wish she could have defeated Dracula and lived to be happy on Ethan's side, the way she died and their moment gave me hope for the afterlife. It's as if John Logan is saying to us: it's only goodbye for now, because there's a heaven and they will meet there one day.

For that reason I loved it... But also, I feel empty, like I don't know what to do or where to go. I think I would stay in that home with Ethan and Malcolm and try to live off the last days of my life, with the heavy knowledge that perhaps I lost my chance at true and complete happiness along that person, Vanessa's, side. That's how I think Ethan feels too. I just wished they had a bit more time. But she died knowing she wasn't alone and that he loved her and that was so, so intense and meaningful and beautiful... It was imperfectly perfect.

As for the reincarnation thing Moons mentioned - would it really be less tragic in another life or in another or other?

Suddenly I feel like I want to write and explore that concept.I never cried so much in my life because of a series. There is a heaviness and a pain in my heart for Ethan and Vanessa, as if Vanessa were real and part of my family - a beloved that I lost.

It was not at all anything I imagined, it was sad and tragic and it completely broke my heart, but to be quite honest, I didn't expect to love the outcome. I mean, not exactly love, but I don't dislike it. I begin to think that indeed death was the only way out, I just hoped there had been more time, for him and her.

Nevertheless their kiss and their goodbye was the most beautiful thing I ever got to see and honestly, it couldn't have been more perfect. It makes you think that in a little while they'll be together in heaven, in peace at last.

Only complaint: Ethan could have cried more, maybe... I don't know. Maybe the pain is so great you can't come to cry... that happens too. But I also think that he is relieved to know that she is no longer suffering, and that part of his mission he was able to accomplish. I wonder what will be of him and Malcolm now, most of all.

TwoForATable

Double post, apologies! My internet's so slow!

ina_am

I just watched the last two episodes. I don't know how to react actually... and if I can handle so much sadness. John Logan you're a cruel man! Vanessa deserved some happiness in her life, not to end up like this, after everything she went trough. It's not fair at all!

Moons112

Thanks Theda! hopefully i could answer to you the answer that you deserves, but i´m agree with you, only the death would let free to Vanessa.
and the reincarnation of Vanessa would be great, but this time, without haunting of Dracula or the dirty Lucifer.
But that´s impossible i guess, Vanessa born domed, and this is the worst thing. i´m so broken that hardly i can write or talk of this. .
Today is the turn of stand in my bed crying, i feel like if someone of my family is dead. i am madly in love with Ethanessa, that´s the truth, since 1X01...for that i suffer so much. for that i don´t fit this finale. was the best for Van i know...but...is too much painful. i need leave. i´m sorry..

ina_am

I wish she could come back the way she was. I am so so sad Maybe you're both right with what you've said... and this story was never intended to end up happily, but I refuse to accept that it was the only way out for her. I mean...... it hurts so much.

Moons112

Yah Innan i know what you mean.
we are in love with Ethanessa too much that´s the problem, for that for us is almost impossible ask us fits the finale.
Vanessa loved to Joan D´Arc and she had the same finale.
Maybe Ethanessa was not meant to have an happy ending, but at last yeah why not to be together? and when i say that i mean TOGETHER REALLY just for an only season? ...i can not stand this pain anymore.

TwoForATable

I wish that too, Ina. I wish she hadn't died, I wish she could have been happy with Ethan and travel the world with him - be free and adventurous and live her life to the fullest. That's what I wished for Vanessa. I wish that they had at least a bit more time together, a small chance of happiness - maybe a small vacation on the Moors, I don't know...

Maybe I'll write about that, my mind is overflowing with what if's. What if she hadn't needed to die? Or what if there was a loophole? What if she reincarnates years later and they meet? What if, what if, what if?

ina_am

I agree with both of you! We invested too much in that relationship , maybe we had to expect that it was going to be doomed after all. If they only had prepared us for this finale , maybe it wouldn't be so hard to cope with it. I knew it was going there ever since the new ep 9 credits started.

Theda, I'd love to read any story you could write with some lighter theme about them

John Logan has confirmed that there won't be S4
Interview.

Hawthorn

I'm so ****ing angry right now, I shouldn't even post but I can't go to bed like this.
I also know "it's only a tv show" and after everything life has thrown at me in the past two months I shouldn't even care this much... but nope, I'm just too upset.

You tell me they knew this was the final season and kept the whole group separated for almost the full run of it, introduced a bunch of new characters they knew they would never have the time to properly explore and would only take time away from the main players' storylines, portrayed Vanessa heavily using the mental illness and depression plotline and then thought it would be a good idea to make her realise the only way out was killing herself, had her and Ethan make love with everyone else around them but each other, never each other, forgot all about Lucifer and made Dracula's exit a joke. And I'm not even done with listing all the loose ends.
If Logan knew this was the series finale and still did all that, I call it bad writing, period. If Showtime cancelled the show while the episodes were still being written/filmed, then I can be more understanding of all the things that never came to be.

I know this was a horror series, I know it would end tragically, and I was even ready to accept Vanessa's ending being that final, but not done the way it was done, nope. How much screentime she even had in the last two episodes? She's the main character. No goodbye to Malcolm, or anyone else, and two minutes with Ethan?

I'm heartbroken.