Lauren Helen Graham

Miranda

Thanks for starting this Kris!

Lauren Helen Graham

You're welcome I won't watch the episode before tomorrow in the evening Sadly.

Fangirl49

The official title of this ep should be Damn It Dembe because that's what I was yelling when he wouldn't get out of the elevator. He got my nerves with that one. But he did totally remind me of the firefighter he used to be.

I love that Red and Ressler worked together! Wow and I kind of wished for this! Although Ressler was not undercover he did work with Red to further the investigation. I enjoyed their interaction. Elevator..Elevator.. Wow, I was thinking the same thing.

Kris you were right. Aram was still upset and both Ressler and Liz knew they screwed up. Now Samar gave the ring back. I'm sick. Do the writers really have to mess up the one good thing on the show. And I love Samars you ask the two worst people at relationships for advice! You rock Samar. So now they are messed up because of Liz and neither knows if they want to get married. Sigh.

Liz should leave Aram out of this I think, but I did enjoy seeing them work together. So Garvey knows Jennifer, He is her surrogate father. THat means he knows Naomi and hes the one who got them in witsec. Was he crooked then? Has he been watching them all this time for Reds return or does he really care for Jennifer?

Who believes Jennifer? Does she really not know Garvey is a criminal? Not sure what I think about that. But, I'm pretty sure this is leading to Red not being Lizs father and him not being Red either. You heard it here first!!

JayT2001

Oh wow! I cannot wait to leave work!

ChakotaysLover

Samar calling Ressler an IDIOT made my night! lol!

THANK YOU Samar for pointing out that Liz and Donny have only had terrible relationships!!! SAY IT SISTER!!! I'm sad Samar gave the ring back, but she did it for the right reason. They have to figure out what it is they want (and I'm sure they WANT to be together) Until the know, she shouldn't have the ring looming between them.

I swear if the writers SCREW up Aram and Samar, I'm going to be very mean on Twitter...

Aram being snippy with Donald an Liz... another great moment for me! At least Ressler looked genuinely sorry for giving bad advice. Liz.... she sounded FAKE apologizing to him. And then had the nerve to OFFER more of her so called good advice... Umm.. Hold up! I cheered when Aram told her he doubted she could ever give good advice! Go, Scared Banana!!!!

I half expected Aram to bail on Liz (kinda wished that he would have tbh), and go back to doing his own thing.

Red!! OMG!! Red was as giddy as a school boy planning that kidnapping that his enthusiasm had me grinning like an idiot!!! I just loved how he went through the plan!! And the french man flirting with Samar!! IT was too cute! LOL!

Dembe was amazing tonight!! He could have left those men in the elevator, but he didn't! he risked his life to save them! Dembe is just plain AMAZING!

Liz's idiocy is getting out of control and she is honestly workin my last nerve! !OMG! Sharing all the case details with a woman who thinks Garvey is a GOOD MAN!!! WHAT A FREAKING MORON!!!

Miranda

Okay.. did we just see Jennifer after all these years of waiting? Or is she somebody else who says she is Red's daughter? It could be trap from Garvey.. I mean like I don't trust anybody anymore.. but if it really is Jennifer than OMG!

I loved Aram and Liz working together! The way he "threw" himself in front of that bike. and yeah I wish he never listened to Ressler and Liz and I am glad those two knew they gave him bad advice.

Samar calling Ressler an idiot was right on! She was right, they have only experienced terrible relationships (well I think before Reddington came along that Ressler and Audrey were very happy) but Liz certainly had a bad relationship so what do they know.

Marilyn I was doing the same thing! I was yelling to Dembe to get out of the elevator! I was so scared that it was going to drop even further with him in it.

I really liked it that Red worked so closely with Ressler and Samar on this one and I really really loved seeing Ressler and Dembe together!

Red was indeed so giddy when planning the abduction.

Fangirl49

I'm pretty sure it's Jennifer. It all ties in with them being in witness protection.

Yeah Aram let Liz drag him into this and if they had got caught he could have lost his career.

I wonder what she's going to do with Jennifer now. I couldn't believe she told her everything. I thought that pretty dumb too

Miranda

Yes it does tie in with the WITSEC but she could have also known because Garvey told her that. This show has me so paranoid that I can never believe anything anymore. I have doubts about everything.

I wonder what she is going to do with Jennifer. It probably wasn't the smartest thing to tell her all that. I also wonder how Jennifer is going to react to Liz being her half sister.. One thing I do now is that Liz is probably not going to tell Red.

I agree on Aram. He could have said no to Liz. So he is just as much at fault as Liz is for proposing the plan to him.

Fangirl49

My original theory was actually that Jennifer planned all this and Garvey works for her. See paranoia is in my life too.

ChakotaysLover

That's not so far-fetched though.... "Jennifer" (cause let's face it, we don't know if she is an ACTUAL Reddington) could have hatched this plan because she wants to hurt her father. It wouldn't be the first time. To her, he upended her life. She lost everything and had to go into hiding. Her playing DUMB could be a way to put Liz at ease.

Lauren Helen Graham

OMFG!!!! Liz found Jennifer! And now the daughter question is raised... Was there really a second one, was all that talking about Liz and ballet to get us away from believing that his memories were about Jennifer but Liz actually? Damn, soooo many questions raised again.

And hey, Marilyn, don't rule her being the head of all the operation just yet. We still don't know how the bones tie to Garvey and Jennifer but shouldn't they somehow? Why else would Garvey have reacted on the DNA search on those bones? I can't grab the connection and this sucks big time!

About the rest of the episode, I'll post more tomorrow. I'm still totally crazed by the Jennifer thing

Fangirl49

Thanks Kris. Yeah the identity has to be connected to Jennifer now and not Katarina I think. It had to be someone she and Garvey would be looking for. I don't think she's as innocent as she seems.

And you know if she is the real Reds daughter then her being a crazed killer will be a cool contrast to everything we have said about Liz. How she's trying to act like Red with her actions but this Red was never just an easy killer. He had morals and a conscience

Lauren Helen Graham

What if it is connected to both of them? the identity I mean... Not sure who that could be though (and nope, no imposter theory here, please). What if the bones don't connect back to the night of the fire?

A crazed killer? Who do you mean? Jennifer? How do you come to such conclusions?

Fangirl49

I mean Jennifer. If she is Garveys boss. If she's looking for Red with ill intentions. If she is the one who wants to kill Red. If she knows what Garvey is really doing.

I know that's a lot of ifs. But none of us seem to trust her.

If she's actually everything that Liz thinks liz "should" be because of her father.