Lauren Helen Graham

Fangirl49

I hate Liz. I hate having to hear her plan. I hate how stupid the team is about her. I hate even hearing her name mentioned.

Lauren Helen Graham

I completely second that.

I'm so disappointed in Aram and Ressler again Why did Aram not shoot her? I don't get it, really... He didn't need to kill her obviously but he let her lure him in. It so annoys the hell out of me.

Same about Ressler, him helping her to get out right away. What became of these people?

Cooper though I at least liked regarding getting the order out through Panabaker in the end. At least something. But his whining about what she had to go through annoyed me again.

I thought it funny that Cooper tried to keep their search for Rakitin secret from Red How stupid do they think he is? And Rakitin acting on his own. Stupid as well... Now they have put it down to four people left.

Neville Townsend. It's the first time we saw him, right?

Miranda

Wow.. I can't believe how freakin' oblivious Ressler and Aram still are when it comes to Liz. I got so mad this episode. I can't believe they didn't do anything to stop her!

Besides that it was a really interesting blacklister to see how somebody uses a doppelganger like that. I knew right away from the beginning it wasn't really Liz because they weren't showing her but now I do wonder why we haven't seen Megan in so many episodes. You know what I was wondering.. that maybe she is pregnant again and that because of that we don't see her on the show.

Yes this is the first time we saw Townsend.

Easteregg

Or Megan just needs a break. I am still wondering if the second part of the season is about her, but to what end? I am so mad about this writing. Nobody would get that evil and careless so fast! Even I hate Liz now! I so hoped there will be more to the story. But now, whatever she finds out, there is no turning back. If Red dies and Liz is just the next number one on the Most Wanted List, I am freaking out!

I bet Katharina really killed Townsends Family, maybe she was worse than we know. Maybe she really was N13...

Fangirl49

Really nothing more to add! We all agree. I hate this storyline. Can it just be over already?

And I guess I really don’t know where they are going with this plot anymore. Easter maybe that is the plan, to let Liz run the kingdom.
How would she even know Mary was Townsend sister? Even red didn’t know that. This plot is ridiculous. And Liz had Mary murdered. Even red wouldn’t do that. And if he did, well we know red is a criminal. We expect it.

I see no way for Liz to get back on the task force. The writers would be crazy to try. She’s even too far gone for Aram now that she worked with Mary. It feels like we are heading to the series end.

Did you guys notice that Red told Rakiten that he had a 30 year plan and he wasn’t going to let him ruin it? He also told Neville that Katarina was the real killer of neville’s family. I beleive him.

I loved Pannabaker. Yes Ressler you need to get your dignity. I think seeing her so upset over Mary’s murder is what finally woke cooper up.

I gotta admit at the beginning when cooper was telling the team that Liz was still working with them, I had a moment where I thought she and red were working together again. That was quickly destroyed.

I had read that this episode would have a doppelgänger and I was afraid no one would be able to tell. So I was glad to at least be wrong in that

Miranda I too loved the whole blacklister story line. It would have been perfect if Liz were kidnapped or something. Just the fact that she was behind it is what ruined the plot for me.

I hope the second half of the season is not Lizs story. I couldn’t stomach this episode and she wasn’t in it. I know I can’t do a half season of this.

crazy_diamond

I was feeling exactly the same, this team is a laughing stock. I was totally on board with Pannabaker. At least she can see it.

I really don't care about Liz and somebody better do something about her, or else...

I do wonder what has happened to Meghan though, is she leaving/left

I didn't mind the eppy, good Red scenes as per usual, but the team, just ugh..

Fangirl49

How do you end the storyline? Liz going back to a team she used and betrayed? Them ignoring her murdering Mary.

Keenler? After she had sex with him in order to continue manipulating him. And if you get over that, and they get together, Ressler would have to give up his career to go on the run with her.

And red and Liz? I never pictured an ending for them. But one thing I always thought is they would be friends. Would care for each other. Perhaps continue to be an unstoppable detective partnership. But I never pictured this.

crazy_diamond

Her being captured tbh

Fangirl49

And going to jail

Lauren Helen Graham

Oh Easter, now you damn surprised me here. What was the thing that brought you over the edge? Liz killing Mary or her sacrificing her Cyranoid? I'm really wondering because so far you were a big supporter of Liz.

But what you stated, that's exactly my problem. The speed which she changed with. It's just nuts as if there was a final event (maybe her mother being killed by Red) that brought her over the edge and a completely different person surfacing.

I'm really curious on that 30 year plan that he is part off... We knew it was something bigger but man. I need to know. And I have no clue at all.

I'm really wondering what's going on with Megan as well... Maybe Miranda is right and she is pregnant. Or maybe she is just taking care of her child

I really hope that we will never see Liz as part of the task force again. She has lost any right to be an agent and I need this to at least happening in the end. Maybe she doesn't even want to be back

Easteregg

Hey Lauren,

yes-it maybe was the hardest sentence I had to wrote!

I always thought you can´t justify everything with love! Reddington took advantage of the fact that he knows her past. He tied her on himself with pieces of the truth, just because he knows to get answers she will stay long enough with him until he enters her life so deeply, she can´t just walk away that easy. Kate Caplin said in the first episode, it is a mistake to enter her life and in her last, that Red just wanted so deeply to be part of it, that he ignored the fact that he cant protect her. And that caused a lot of pain she needed to suffer. That doesn´t go away just because he loves her. I ám still convinced he is responsible as she is!

BUT even if I get it, that she thinks now he just used her all these years and is responsible her mother head to run for decades and is dead now, she has gone too far! Most of all with the task force- that's her friends, her family, her life. Look at poor Aram, he loved her so much and she just played him like a bitch and murders Mary. All just her "mother" told her something she can´t confirm. What the hell Liz, I hope Red is a real badass and did something so bad, that all of this is justified, otherwise put a bullet in her! Hate this storyline, I just hate it. Even if she finds out in the end, that she was all wrong and tries to save him, for me, she can´t make it up to them.

Fangirl49

Easter I agree with what you said about red. Yes him entering her life brought her pain. And he probably should never have stayed. He just wanted so deeply to be part of her life for whatever reason. So I could never deny that he brought her pain. But he also brought her love. And concern. And caring. And it kills me that she never saw that. Even if he kept secrets. And I will admit it was crazy for him to think he could keep the past a secret if you are friends with someone who wants to know you. That’s a part of the plot that annoys me. Why stay in her life if your life needs to remain a secret? But then we would never have a show.

So yeah red has been wrong. But it doesn’t justify this.

But yeah this liz plot line is horrible and it went too far and I see no redeeming her. And I gotta admit if this does end with Red deserving this (and it very well could) I wouldn’t be able to stand that. It goes against everything his show has said was true.

So here’s a theory I saw that Pannabaker is really Katarina. Lol. Don’t think I beleive it. But I think I would love to learn that the woman red killed wasn’t Katarina. Just for Liz to be wrong about everything

Ps I don’t think Megan is pregnant. The article I saw saying she was appeared to be manipulated from an old story.

Easteregg

I agree! That's annoyed me so many times- that she never appreciated his love after all the times he saved her life, was willing to give his own for her, and forgave her everything she´s done to him. But damn, I wanted them to be together!

I wonder what the storyline is because it seemed Townsend just didn´t hunt Katharina all these years because of the Archive, but because he thought she killed his family. And I believe when Red said, that she did. Maybe it was the real Katharina (even if I hope not) but was very evil and has done a lot of cruel things- and Red just did not want Liz to know that

Fangirl49

I believe red too, that Katarina killed Townsends family. I don’t think he was lying. There is just so much liz doesn’t know about this woman. It’s just crazy for her to choose Katarina.

The truth is that red has protected her and he’s there for her. And Katarina was just using and manipulating her. Katarina even put Agnes in danger.

And all I ever wanted on this show was these two characters. Red and Liz forever.