Lauren Helen Graham

Miranda

Thanks Kris! can't wait to see the episode.

ETA: Jut saw the episode! I thought it wasn't too interesting up until the end! OMG Marilyn you were right all this time! park bench guy is Ilya Koslov! and now Katarina has found him. What is she going to do with him and is he going to tell her something? but more importantly who he hell is our Red?!

Easteregg

I really thought the same! I did not find the case too exciting - but finally we have the confirmation- Red is not Ilya! But differently than thought, Katharina seems to know Ilya after all (due to Dom's story), because when he opened the door she said: Hello Ilya, it was a long time ago. At this point it is now again confusing - because Katharina welcomed Reddington in Paris with "Raymond". So if the real Reddington is dead and Ilya did not become Reddington, who is he? This brings me back to Season 6 when Liz Red said she finally knows who he is, but she does not understand one thing: what happened after he cleared out Reddington's accounts ... why did he stay Reddington? He owed her that answer and I think that's where the „core of Poodle lies.“ - as we say in germany.

Fangirl49

“I don’t know whether to swallow or spit. Oh well. I told you so.”

So now Katarina has Reds oldest and trusted friend. Oh my.

Before I go further, this case was nuts. A mAn carrying a child. That was crazy. At least they didn’t perform a sex change because that would totally bring “Redarina” back into play as I think this was meant to do. Just watching this made me think about how unrealistic the Redarina thing truly would be.

I did like the whole concept of men learning how it feels to deal with an unwanted pregnancy (especially with rape) and having other people make your decisions. It totally tied into Katarina screaming at red about men controlling her.

So she’s cold hearted. She was going to let Red kill Patrick. She’s pure evil. She acts like her father Dom is nothing. Red is still furious about that. I thought Patrick would have a bigger part in the mystery but I guess not. I gotta admit, I’m glad Red is a loyal man. You always know he will choose loyalty over all.

Agnes has now seen a dead body. And been involved with Katarina. Well Jenny, no discovered microphone in the house. Either Katarina snuck in and replaced it or Liz threw it away. Sigh.

I can not believe liz just told parks red is not red. No agent parks your secret is not safe with Liz. She tells everything.

Did anyone else almost lose their mind when liz saw Ilya? And red introduced him as frank. Maybe since she has that name, she will see Arams stolen name from the party?

Lauren Helen Graham

I just watched the episode and I thought it really good It was a really exciting episode for a change and I loved the topic they addressed

When we saw 'Frank' the first time in season 6 I was convinced he's Ilya... But I really shoved the thought aside because it would make everything so much more confusing. Please tell me in the future to stick to my opinion

I'm really afraid this won't end well for Ilya. I'm soooo sad. I grew to like him a lot. But now the speculation starts anew... Who is our Raymond Reddington?

Katarina... I start to feel some sympathy and please, don't hit me but I do... She's been on the run for so long and she even showed she has a heart by helping this kid whose parents were killed because of her. She tried to right her wrongs although we know nothing will ever bring his parents back and make good for what happened. Still, I feel for her there.
And I'm glad that Red didn't shoot him. Do you really think he would have had she not given away some information that Red could use?

The case... Wow, so creepy. But nice to see them taking this topic into the show because it's really crazy what just happens in some of the US states.

crazy_diamond

I knew Raymond wasn't Ilya, I knew it!!

I think Raymond is Reddington...I just don't know what he lied about it...

I hope Ilya doesn't fall into the hands of Katrina, grown to like "Frank"

Jenny Heartland

Wow, what an episode! I'm still trying to put all the pieces together in my brain, then I come here and it helps...but then there are new questions that pop up. Aye caromba!

So now Katarina has Ilya...what in the world is going to happen and how is he going to survive her hatred?! What kind of deal can she offer him in exchange for his life, but then she'll break her word and kill him anyway? Red needs to come to his rescue somehow, that's his oldest friend as he just mentioned so there has to be a way. I mean we all can't just find out he's Ilya only to have him shot!

I honestly didn't like that the show brought politics into it because one day they'll go our way and the next another way. I'm saturated with politics on a daily basis anyway so I don't like it when it invades any of my beloved shows whether or not it coincides with my own views or not. Just my take.

And little Agnes, you're right, Marilyn, she's seen a dead body when she was with Katrina and if Katrina thinks a pinky swear is going to keep that from coming out....hmmm, although given Liz's current state of oblivion and lack of discernment, who knows?! I may be wrong but I do honestly believe that somehow Agnes will let it slip at some point. Let's hope Liz at THAT point will start finally figuring things out! And you're right, she still hasn't noticed the doll and mic laying on the floor. Makes me wonder why the writers even put that in so we all could see it if it wasn't going to come into play at some point.

I too thought, "Wow, Katrina actually does have a heart somewhere in her being" when Patrick's situation came up. But then she was also willing to let him get shot! I was especially thankful for Dembe at that point. When Red pulled out his gun and was going to shoot Patrick, all he had to say was, "Raymond" and it was really good to see Red respond to his trusted, beloved friend's opinion. What a relief.

And Agent Park...still not sure about her. In the beginning of the epi when she was with Liz and Liz told her not to worry that she would keep her secret...I thought to myself, hey, what secret? That's where they left off last week's episode so for a split second I thought maybe they were showing the wrong episode and had skipped the one where we all get to hear what Park's big Anchorage secret is. Guess it's just one more little secret they want to keep from us 'til they're ready t share it. But again, I'm just not sold on Park yet, she seems like she has a quick trigger finger, kind of tempestuous and could get her and the team in trouble. On the other hand, she may turn out to be a genius and a huge asset. But we'll have to wait to find out.

For some reason, I'm getting the idea that Marilyn, you may just get your wish when you were so frustrated with the story line with Katrina recently, that you wished that Red would just go ahead and "shoot her!" so we all could be done with her finally and move on! I laughed out loud when I read that. It's all coming down to what's going to be an epic season finale at some point soon. Can't wait!

Jenny

JayT2001

I may be in small company but I'm really enjoying this season. This blacklister was rather eccentric and dark. The guys waking up in storage room baby showers was an interesting touch. Again, a lot to unpack.

I love how Illya exited stage right when he saw Liz. Don't worry, she wasn't going to put 2 and 2 together on Dom's story.

RV stakeouts seem to be fun.
Dembe doing needlepoint was priceless.
Oh Katarina! If you only knew how much of a blabber mouth Liz is, you would be terrified Agnes will carry on that legacy.

Liz opened up to Park like she was Barbara Walters on 20/20. Sigh.......
Ressler..... I'd be mortified too. That look on his face said it all.
Whatever happened to Katarina,.... I'm not sure I'm prepared to find out. Dark doesn't cut it.

Cooper, my best guess, watch Junior. The answers you seek are with Arnold.
Now, about Dom's story to Liz......

Miranda

You are not alone in that Jay. I am really enjoying this season as well! I am happy we finally get to know some more things but with learning these new things we also get new questions.

I am now assuming that our Red and Ilya tricked Katarina into believing that Ilya turned into Reddington. That Ilya pretended to have reconstructive surgery to look like Reddington but that actually our Red has had that surgery to become Reddington but why? why? why? that is all I can think of right now.

Lauren Helen Graham

Why would they have tricked Katarina? Maybe that has always been the plan and Katarina knew about it? We don't know that, right?

I still don't believe that our Red actually is Raymond Reddington... That would mean the bones in that bag belonged to somebody else which would open that mystery again. I doubt that. I honestly believe that the real RR is dead.

Agnes. I was so shocked and I feel so sorry for her... She saw her first dead body and that's no fun for a child. I'm wondering if she'll tell Liz at some point. I can't imagine that this wouldn't go with any consequences for a child... Nightmares or anything.

Fangirl49

I’m all in on Red and Ilya tricking Katarina. Don’t know if I’m right or not. But that’s what I think.

Jenny interesting you said that about politics. I didn’t think it political at all. Then I saw a tvguide article that it was. Reading the comments, lots of people were mad. Me, personally, I didn’t see politics. They certainly didn’t express a “ right or wrong” opinion. They just showed that when people are in a situation, they truly don’t know what they will do until forced to decide. I thought it a pretty good way to show that there is a lot of grey in all decisions.

Miranda

No we don't know that but if this was the plan all along then why is Katarina going after Ilya now?

Fangirl49

I always felt like Katarina was double crossing Ilya because she didn’t tell him about the fulcrum. But now I think he may have been working with Red

We know he knew Katarina because of their pledge at 6 year old. I just wondered if our red was also a playmate or if he and Ilya met later.

But in this episode red seem to clearly not like or trust Katarina. I’d like to know if that’s because of Dom or did his feelings change before that. He has always seemed to want liz to understand and care for her mother. Maybe that’s because he thought her dead? .

Lauren Helen Graham

Marilyn, you really didn't see it political? I saw it so extremely political Especially making a politician the victim here.

Yeah, I know Miranda... It doesn't make sense. But I really can't see Ilya betraying Katarina. He helped her, he cared so much about her...

I think it's because of Dom that his feelings changed. We know that Red is a man who can't stand people close to him being hurt and she did that. The woman he loved did it and he sees it as a betrayal.
Hm, then there would be the question if he really ever loved Katarina

Fangirl49

I was so hung up on the fact that Redarina fans would use it to say Katarina is Red. I was totally focused on that aspect. I was just waiting for all the posts saying Redarina had to be true.

I wrote a crazy theory on the blacklist list thread. And the more I think about it, the more I’m staring to wonder

We know Dom lied about Ilya becoming Red.

We know he believes Katarina betrayed her country and still seems angry

What if he also lied about the persons who came up with the plan. What if Katarina wasn’t in the story at all. Is it possible Dom lied about that. What if instead it was Red and Ilya who came up with the imposter plan.

Idk if that is far fetched or not. But Katarina seems to have no idea what happened. How is that possible?

Nvm. That probably is too far fetched. And would be too convoluted of a story line.
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