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Old 01-29-2021, 12:53 PM
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8x04: "ELIZABETH KEEN" Episode Discussion Thread (01/29/2021 @ 8PM)

8x04 | Elizabeth Keen
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As Red and the task force search for Liz, she sets a new plan in motion that has catastrophic consequences.
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Old 01-29-2021, 07:13 PM
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There no way Red would fall for Lizs lie and doubt Marvin. I’m really angry
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Old 01-30-2021, 02:07 AM
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I have a feeling this season is going to be as action packed as S1 was!

Okay first I have to say I am so angry about Ressler and Liz sleeping together! A couple years ago it was all I could dream off and now they've totally ruined that! Liz only did so she could play Ressler even more and he blindly fell for it!

Aram.. Aram.. why didn't you arrest her!

I can't believe Red believed that Marvin turned against him! I saw it coming from a mile away that it was Liz who arranged all of that. You can tell that because of his disease Red is getting slower and is not as on top of his game anymore and he used to be. If he wouldn't have been sick,Liz would have never been able to pull this off.

So Red's conversation with Sikorsky.. He said Red is really N13. Do we believe him?

And now Liz is taking Agnes with her on the run. Her whole childhood is ruined.

They are bringing the Freelancer back next week! So cool we are going back to S1.
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There no way Red would fall for Lizs lie and doubt Marvin. I’m really angry
It's the same for me... This one again was one of the dumbest episodes we've seen in a long time. Such a crap! He believed everybody when they told him they turned her down and then there's Marvin and he doesn't. Come on. That was the most stupid move ever.

The task force I have no words for. I so wish for Liz to kill one of them for them to finally open their eyes.

Ressler and Liz, not much to add. Ressler has lost his brain, end of story. The most hilarious is Liz is with her engagement ring right after sleeping with Ressler

Agnes being on the run with her is just so damaging for that child...

The most frustrating is Red still trying to protect Liz It's just all a mess and I don't enjoy anything of it anymore.
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Old 01-30-2021, 08:10 AM
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This ep disgusted me. Reds not that sick to be tricked by Liz. No way. And especially a trick I could figure out. So my belief. Red and Marvinm set this up to follow liz. It’s the only thing that makes sense. And I do know this may not be the writers plan. But it’s mine. It’s the only way I can keep watching the show.

It makes no sense that red would fall for that. That no one questioned new guy. Even if red was sick, Dembe was there and he’s not dumb. Do you really think he would just say okay torture marvin. No.

So either we learn this was a plot to set Liz up or I never watch this episode again and the torture of Marvin never happened. If it wasn’t for you guys, I’m not sure I’d keep watching. I a literally done.

I’m mad at Aram too. He shouldn’t have given Her the two minutes. At least his was understandable.

And Ressler? They have sex and all she can do is think of tom. Wow.

And finally she’s the number one blacklister? So what’s the point of the show now. That should be the end of the story.

Miranda I have no idea what the guy said to red about n13. I was too mad
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This episode was just what!

Ressler being made as a useless FBI agent, well to be honest, Aram being made that as well. He had that big speech to Ressler and then he did the same thing!, ridiculous . Made Ressler into a laughing stock.

Red, not believing Marvin. What he told Red, he should have thought of that, but no, he got blindsided and now his friendship with Marvin is gone....

I'm still not sure that Red is a Russian spy, despite it sort of telling us at the end of the show..

and yes I thought the same regarding Keen being the no.1, was is the point of that, considering the show is not ending yet.

This whole season, so far, is a mess for me...
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"This episode disgusted me." Wow, that's a new stage of rage I see there and I get it because that's perfectly said.

I really would have loved to hit her right in the face when she called him at the end. And these damn stupid unicorn socks... Boah, I really can't stand to see this character anymore. Megan was right, I'll hate Liz.

Marvin is never going to forgive Red I fear I'm so bumped.

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Miranda I have no idea what the guy said to red about n13. I was too mad
Me neither I was going nuts at this point.

You guys really think that Red is a Russian spy?
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I'm not too sure

and yes I hate Liz...
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Old 01-31-2021, 11:21 PM
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I guess none of us is sure about it... But the talk at the end really seems to indicate that.
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that it did..
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Old 02-01-2021, 10:38 AM
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I don't know if Red is N13, wheter he is a Russian. I don't know but why would Sikorsky lie about it? Or he thinks Red is N13 but in fact it is somebody else.
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Exactly, why would Sikorsky lie about it when he is just with Red there... But damn, Red still seems to want to protect Liz. But why and from who? And why are they still after Liz?
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Exactly, why would Sikorsky lie about it when he is just with Red there... But damn, Red still seems to want to protect Liz. But why and from who? And why are they still after Liz?
I don’t even know why at this point he would care about liz. And I can’t think of a big enough reason for him to keep on acting like he does.

Is the fate of the world somehow locked In her mind?
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I have no idea either... She did all of that and still he is somehow protecting her. Why?
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He was ready to kill her after she almost had him executed.

Now there’s almost no reaction. I guess he thinks he deserves it

I don’t understand this show.
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