[majesdane]

welcome to the 1st
LGBTQ COMMUNITY THREAD

This is a place for LGTBQ fans and allies to talk about their experiences in real life and how the show portrays the community. This includes discussion about any of the LGBTQ storylines, couples, and characters on Orphan Black, as well as any LGBTQ/allies persons of the cast and crew -- but please remember that opinions will differ on certain subjects and keep try to keep it polite. Expressing dislike of a character or frustration at a storyline is acceptable, but full-on bashing is not.

This thread is considered a SAFE SPACE. Derogatory remarks about a character/member's sexual orientation is not allowed and will not be tolerated. If you have a question about something, feel free to ask, but please be respectful.

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I feel that Felix ... I-I just don't know when, as a society, in television and film it sort of only became okay to represent gay people in, like, the traditional sense. Where they have a great job and well-adjusted parents and maybe a surrogate, or adopted, child. Like, when was that the only way you could represent gay people?

-- Jordan Gavaris (Felix)

We speak to that community not like, "this is what a gay relationship is like", this is what any relationship is like. I think it makes it very normal and un-special in a way? It's really important to me.

-- Tatiana Maslany (the clones)

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Delphine, a conflicted straight girl, gives our thesis on sexuality in episode eight, when she says " ... as a scientist I know that sexuality is a spectrum, but social biases codify sexual attraction, contrary to the biological facts."

So, yes, the biological facts: People are definitely "born this way". That’s the nature side, whether it's genetic, or epigenetic, or whether womb chemistry plays a part. As each of our clones were carried by different surrogates, that could explain differences in sexuality. But who wants to run around blaming mothers and their hormone levels for the sexuality of their children? Haven’t we had enough of that, since, like, forever? Maybe it was the lipstick in Daddy's glove box? Or Great Uncle Arthur's? Okay, then how about the nurture side of things?

Cosima grew up in the Bay Area, in a permissive community and a progressive home fostering intellectual and social tolerance. She learned to approach sexuality without shame, with curiosity. I think Cosima's been "bisexual" (if you had to codify it), but maybe she's ready to self-identify as gay. She would defend her freedom to choose, no matter where nature placed her in the spectrum. And Delphine too makes a choice to follow her heart for an individual, even though she’s always been "straight." Awwwww ... isn't that sweet, shippers? So, sexuality is a spectrum of many factors, and even though we’re a show about clones, we celebrate individuality and the crazy contingencies of nature. And just to keep it all in perspective (season-two spoiler!), Cosima will remind us at some point next year: "My sexuality is not the most interesting thing about me." Okay? There, jeez, keep it in your pants (or your lab coat)!

-- Graeme Manson (showrunner)

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[In five years] I see more representations of queer culture. There's so many films that speak about it in beautiful, personal way and make it universal because ultimately it's about humanity. I hope that becomes a given. We'll watch a film with a lesbian character as the lead and that won't become the defining characteristic.

-- Tatiana Maslany (the clones)

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previous threads;

#01 - "Even though we're a show about clones, we celebrate individuality."

[danvers]

going to live here too. and add me if we're adding people

[majesdane]

Originally Posted by 324B21 (View Post) going to live here too. and add me if we're adding people

Idk, we don't have a supporters list on the PLL board! It's just like a general discussion thread.

But yes, I will live here too.

[Sincerely, Me.]

Thanks for starting. The quotes in the OP are awesome!

[majesdane]

Originally Posted by Sincerely, Me. (View Post) Thanks for starting. The quotes in the OP are awesome!

I know, the cast/creators are so awesome!

[Simon Spier]

GOD FREAKING BLESS THIS THREAD

[danvers]

should we add this quote by TM to the op?

“I see more representations of queer culture. There’s so many films that speak about it in beautiful, personal way and make it universal because ultimately it’s about humanity. I hope that becomes a given. We’ll watch a film with a lesbian character as the lead and that won’t become the defining characteristic.”

[majesdane]

Originally Posted by murphyboy11 (View Post) GOD FREAKING BLESS THIS THREAD

Jordan!

And Manu, I'll that quote.

[Simon Spier]

Twistyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Were like gay soulmates

[majesdane]

Originally Posted by murphyboy11 (View Post) Twistyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Were like gay soulmates

We are! Omfg if we lived near each other we would be the best gay bffs of all time. If only you were a girl or I was a boy.

[Simon Spier]

*Moving to live near Twisty*

[majesdane]

Originally Posted by murphyboy11 (View Post) *Moving to live near Twisty*

DO IT.

[Simon Spier]

Getting my ticket now! At 4:00

[majesdane]

Originally Posted by murphyboy11 (View Post) Getting my ticket now! At 4:00

Excellent! I'll drive down to LAX to pick you up.

[Simon Spier]

Ok See you soon then!