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dive into you 01-27-2016 11:46 PM

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I don't think it is new and modern? I think Camille took the opportunity to do as she desired. I wasn't paying attention that much, but it's still abandoned, no? Just vamps living there. The building is just not as old.
It just looks more new than the movie version but I guess that's true about it being abandoned. I don't think anyone would want to go anywhere near it


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Seeing as Camille wasn't in the book at the time, we never knew what she would've done. But I get her reasoning, she was saying how the one who has the mortal cup has control over the shadow world, and is there anything Camille would want more?
True. Camille always wanted the power especially if she could control everything. I don't remember if she was hiding around that time or she was off somewhere for business?


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I don't think they did. That's why they didn't want to say how Simon became a daylighter because they thought at first it was because of Shadowhunter blood, right?
Yeah and I think when Simon drank Jace's blood he wasn't too fond of it.

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I think it's just part of the bigger plan. As they want the mortal cup, they need Clary to remember as well and since Camille knows it was Magnus, might as well keep Simon alive to send the message. Or rewatching it again, he might want to protect Magnus. Camille knows it's his doing and she ran so Raphael needs Simon to tell the Shadowhunters to save Magnus, that actually seems more logical in my mind.
It could be that. I guess they need to know where the cup is and since Simon didn't have the information and Clary probably does they need to let him go. It will be interesting to see how it goes down with Magnus.

madness 01-28-2016 06:00 AM

I'm not sure how I feel about Jace/Alec, but this post explains a part of what could be going on and why it's not feeling right.
the one with the blue eyes.

Stay to the Lights 01-28-2016 06:05 AM

:nod: That's a very plausible explanation, and it seems quite true.

sourburst 01-28-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fly me to the moon (Post 84848474)
I'm not feeling about Jace/Clary at all since I felt like they have flat chemistry together.. :look:

Same, like I'm scared for their first kiss, it will be so forced.

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Originally Posted by Alexa (Post 84851505)
I just dont love Clary. I know its the actress but she always sounds so exasperated LOL. and I just dont see her as the nice girl at all. I dont like Isabelle either.

Clary casting is beyond mortifying and Isabelle is basically bipolar to the book. :bawl:

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i dont think the acting is that bad. I think the isabelle/clary actresses arent up to par with the rest, they do sound like they are delivering lines. but i think the boys are doing a great job.
I think so far Alec, Jocelyn, Valentine and Hodge can play they're parts well. Other than that, the rest need the sack.

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The show does represent the books well though i think. I think they have a similar feel. Unlike the movie (imo, sorry.)

overall i was more bored this episode than the last two.
It's a good atmosphere and feels epic like the books, but the actors just don't really propel it.

And same, i mentioned this in my previous post that so far I've only liked episode 2.

fly me to the moon 01-28-2016 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sourburst (Post 84856049)
Same, like I'm scared for their first kiss, it will be so forced.

I just not feeling them and it seems that they are trying so hard to be likable couple, but I prefer movie couple more than this one.. Oh well.. But I def can see that happening..

Alexa 01-28-2016 10:13 PM

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considering they're meant to be like best friends.
well its cannon that alec loves/loved jace though so i didnt now how you meant it.

Im not sure the writers notice how jace treated alec though. him saying alec doesn't like anyone i think is just accurate, i dont think it was him dismissing alecs feelings and i dont think anything will come of it later. you would think and hope it would but I'm not sure the writers are that on top of things.

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Same, like I'm scared for their first kiss, it will be so forced.
i just hope they dont kiss for a long time but i bet they will soon.

i like them and i think the first two episodes did a good job, the third one felt too forced with the sword scene imo.

Stay to the Lights 01-28-2016 10:26 PM

The sword scene did feel a bit cringey.

looking at the stars 01-29-2016 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sourburst (Post 84856049)
Clary casting is beyond mortifying and Isabelle is basically bipolar to the book. :bawl:

I have to disagree on that. Izzy is the exact way she is written and that makes her casting so beautiful to me. :sigh: why do you think it is bipolar to the book?

fly me to the moon 01-29-2016 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Stay to the Lights (Post 84863379)
The sword scene did feel a bit cringey.

It was..

Alexa 01-30-2016 12:06 AM

i dont see izzy as bipolar to the book (though do you mean opposite?) but i dont think the actress is great.

book and serienjunkie 01-30-2016 04:38 AM

the first episodes feelt like an supernatural CSI or something its really strange.
I can't wait to see Magnus and Alec together but the rest of the show is just ok. I'm a little dissapointed. Normally i would say tv can be more true to the books but in this case it's not and thats sad because it's such a good story and cassandra clare deserves a good filming.

sourburst 01-30-2016 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by fly me to the moon (Post 84860263)
I just not feeling them and it seems that they are trying so hard to be likable couple, but I prefer movie couple more than this one.. Oh well.. But I def can see that happening..

Same. The only couple in this show who have chemistry was Simon and that Vampire :rotfl: They're not even a couple.

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Originally Posted by Alexa (Post 84863265)
i just hope they dont kiss for a long time but i bet they will soon.

i like them and i think the first two episodes did a good job, the third one felt too forced with the sword scene imo.

I have a feeling they'll make them kiss for dramatically long. This whole show seems overly dramatic. TBH I rolled my eyes at that sword scene, just didn't feel anything other than a poorly written fan-fiction.

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Originally Posted by follow your heart (Post 84865808)
I have to disagree on that. Izzy is the exact way she is written and that makes her casting so beautiful to me. :sigh: why do you think it is bipolar to the book?

She's snobbish towards mundanes in the books, tv show one isn't. Cassie said in an interview Izzy in the books is a cold-hearted narcissist, tv show isn't. She's confident in her looks in the books, not a **** like the tv show. :shrug: All polar opposites. Although she's a bad cook in the books and we has a little hint of that in the show. I don't have anything against the actress, it isn't her fault they cast her like that, but other than a pretty face she has got nothing.

dive into you 01-30-2016 06:23 PM

I feel like she is confident with her looks on the show :shrug: From the way she presents herself and the way she acts.

madness 01-30-2016 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowhunter (Post 84884406)
I feel like she is confident with her looks on the show :shrug: From the way she presents herself and the way she acts.

:nod: I don't think her representation is done badly. The books are mainly from Clary's POV so that's also how we get to see the other characters. Isabelle was always the badass who's not afraid to use her body for what she wants and who would do anything to protect her family. I think that is coming across quite well. The only difference is that she's a lot more supportive from the start towards Clary than in the books because they felt that Clary needed a female "rolemodel" instead of another catfight in television, and I do not mind that at all.

Alexa 01-30-2016 09:42 PM

it is a bit dramatic. they can tone it down a bit.

I'm actually looking forward to magnus/alec as well ( i never liked them before ) but i bet the show will ruin them too somehow.

i cant really comment on isabelle because i cant say i paid that much attention to her in the books. she didnt seem to get a lot of development there imo.

dive into you 01-30-2016 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by running wild (Post 84884591)
:nod: I don't think her representation is done badly. The books are mainly from Clary's POV so that's also how we get to see the other characters. Isabelle was always the badass who's not afraid to use her body for what she wants and who would do anything to protect her family. I think that is coming across quite well. The only difference is that she's a lot more supportive from the start towards Clary than in the books because they felt that Clary needed a female "rolemodel" instead of another catfight in television, and I do not mind that at all.

:nod: That's true. We never really saw much except for how Clary saw things. They probably didn't want to go with the factor of having the whole cat fight and just have Izzy being more welcoming.

madness 01-30-2016 10:06 PM

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I'm actually looking forward to magnus/alec as well ( i never liked them before ) but i bet the show will ruin them too somehow.
No need to put the whole show down, I don't think comments like that are appropriate. It's okay to discuss them after you have seen them in the episodes, but don't be negative beforehand, please. :)

sourburst 01-31-2016 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexa (Post 84886111)
it is a bit dramatic. they can tone it down a bit.

I'm actually looking forward to magnus/alec as well ( i never liked them before ) but i bet the show will ruin them too somehow.

i cant really comment on isabelle because i cant say i paid that much attention to her in the books. she didnt seem to get a lot of development there imo.

Agreed with all of this :love:

Alexa 01-31-2016 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sourburst (Post 84889433)
Agreed with all of this :love:

:high_five:

mel its one aspect of the show. i dont think they are handling their couples right. i wasnt putting down the whole show. but regardless i am free to say what i want :)

dive into you 01-31-2016 04:28 PM

You are but at the same time everyone has their own opinion. This thread has been getting quite negative and I want to remind everyone not to bash the characters. Even if you don't like the characters please be mindful of how you word your opinion on them.

fire for a heart 01-31-2016 09:01 PM

thanks for brining that up Ann :D

Alexa 01-31-2016 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowhunter (Post 84896561)
You are but at the same time everyone has their own opinion. This thread has been getting quite negative and I want to remind everyone not to bash the characters. Even if you don't like the characters please be mindful of how you word your opinion on them.

where did i bash the characters?

i haven't seen anything in the thread thats been crossing the line. its a discussion thread for a reason and people are free to say what they dont like about the show.

dive into you 01-31-2016 09:57 PM

You're welcome, Jules :)

I didn't say it was you who bash the characters.

I have seen some parts in this thread where it has been very close to bashing the characters especially the female characters. However, I want to move on from this and I just wanted to post that reminder. We want it to a positive place here and not be negative.

Alexa 01-31-2016 10:13 PM

fair enough!

jules! :wave:

sourburst 02-04-2016 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadowhunter (Post 84896561)
You are but at the same time everyone has their own opinion. This thread has been getting quite negative and I want to remind everyone not to bash the characters. Even if you don't like the characters please be mindful of how you word your opinion on them.

I apologise that you found the discussion negative, but as you said opinions are okay and although we all like the show we are allowed negative opinions too. I am thankful you let us know how you feel. However, it doesn't mean the thread is becoming negative :hug: There is a mix of opinions, good and bad. As long as the actors aren't being bashed (characters are perfectly fine to be negative to), which no one has, diversity is fine. :yay:


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