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Old 01-31-2017, 08:40 PM
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[5x11] "Second Chances" - Episode Discussion (Airs 2/1/17)

Second Chances
5x11 - episode discussion

In his quest to take down Kovar, Oliver (Stephen Amell) gets help from a surprising source – Talia al Ghul (guest star Lexa Doig). However, when she reveals what she wants from him in exchange, Oliver isn’t sure he can accept her help. Felicity (Emily Bett Rickards) attempts to hack the NSA to help free Diggle (David Ramsey) but when her online efforts are flagged, she faces off against an unknown adversary. Meanwhile, Curtis (Echo Kellum) tells the team about a female vigilante, Tina Boland (guest star Juliana Harkavay), he uncovered online who has been wreaking havoc all over the country.
Mark Bunting directed the episode written by Speed Weed & Sarah Tarkoff (#511).
Original airdate 2/1/2017.
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Old 02-01-2017, 01:03 AM
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Thanks for starting Gina.
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:38 PM
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I feel the Arrow producers and writers truly hate Laurel Lance and doesn't show any respect to Katie. This episode from start to ending was a non shocking disappointment.

Going to be tough to stick with this show. Don't get who thought making Tina, Dinah Drake.

Should this make Oliver/Laurel fans happy? should this make Oliver/Felicity fans happy that they don't need to see O/L but can see O/D...

Well if we are sticking to the comics, than Dinah Drake is meant to be with Quentin Lance... ... oh sorry, "Larry Lance"


For those who doesn't know, Dinah Drake = Original Black Canary from Earth-2
Dinah Laurel Lance = Second Black Canary from Earth-1, the daughter of Dinah Drake.


The best next twist I would hope happens is probably Tina (Dinah Drake from Earth-2????) or probably Dinah Drake is Laurel's mother and she time traveled from the past to the future but doesn't remember it???

I'm going to need something because every Black Canary name being, "Dinah" give me a break.
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Old 02-03-2017, 06:27 PM
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I agree, Tia. I feel like the writers and producers of this show are digging a hole for themselves with their constant attempts at fixing their Black Canary problem. Each season they keep trying to correct the mistakes they made with Laurel going all the way back to season one. Why didn't they just give Laurel the Lian Yu/League of Assassins storyline they gave Sara, and then have Laurel in Central City when the particle accelerator blew, giving her the sonic Canary Cry? Yeah, I know this new Black Canary is Dinah Drake, the original Golden Age Black Canary from Earth 2. The problem is that Dinah Drake is supposed to be the mother of Dinah Laurel Lance, so how does that help? And Dinah Drake didn't have the metahuman Canary Cry, her daughter did. And what does this mean for Katie and her Black Siren character? I was really hoping she'd be the new Black Canary.

Oh, and did anyone else notice that Talia al Ghul, future lover and baby-mom of Bruce Wayne/Batman, was being played by Lexa Doig, formerly Rommie on Andromeda?
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Old 02-03-2017, 08:48 PM
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I liked Tina, or Dinah, whatever, but I'm very confused with this Black Canary stuff. I still believe this issue is not closed yet. Like, something is gonna happen. Perhaps they will work with this the entire season, until they come to a decision. But at this point of Arrow, you can realize the huge mistake the writers made with Black Canary.
First it was Sara, then it was Laurel, now we have this girl Tina. C'mon, who is next?

I was surprised that the hacker who helped Felicity was a girl like her, also inspired because of her! Nice scene between the two, and will this be a new story for Felicity to be told?

I loved all the interactions of the Recruits team!

Oh, and Diggle is free, yay!
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I really liked this episode much better than last weeks (even though i still hope black Siren gets a bit of redemption. I guess we will see with her at Argus.) . I didnt think i would but i did. I really like Tina/Dinah. Granted i think the same thing i thought with Sara which is this is the type of back story that Laurel should have had from the begining. We all know they messed up Laurel's back story and growth to Black Canary. Maybe some see it has disrespectful to Katie/Laurel but i dont not really. I think her death was crap but now they are making it more. I think they are actually doing a better job then i originally thought they would when this all new black canary thing came about. It actually feels to me that they are honoring the Black Canary mantle. Time will tell if they handle it well.

I am curious as to who Dinah Drake really is. The comic history was rewritten on her a few times which i believe ended up with her being Dinah Laurel Lance's mom but that was the original history. So im interested in if they can lead this to an intriguing place.


So are the setting Felicity up to end up getting back to her hackitivist ways? and then probably doing something really stupid that gets her into deep trouble. They whole thing smelled of Felicity being set up as a patsy or something to me.

Rene grows on me more and more each week. Im really starting to like him which is great considering how annoying i found him to begin with.

Flashbacks are still interesting. Im more than curious about Tailia.
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Yea I didn't watch the episode until this morning.

Dinah Drake is suppose to be the mother of Dinah Laurel Lance. But they have muddled it up on this show.

I am gonna reserve judgement but I stand by what I said eariler. Black Siren should be the Black Canary.
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Old 02-09-2017, 04:03 PM
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I wanted them to redeem Black Siren as well and Im still holding out hope that that happens but until then i did surprisingly really like Dinah. So I'm waiting to see how it all plays out .
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Notes catch up!

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Oh look, particle accelerator flashback, in Arrow, that’s so cute!
Oh hey girl! You alright?
Shoowtime! Scream, baby scream!
Yeah don’t answer that
New reality show! Find That Canary!
That sure sounds promising!
Hey Talia hey!
Girl’s done her research, ha
The hood of her student, ha!
Lil Smoak is going all hack happy
Roooooad trip!
Curtis, buddy, let the man talk
Well she’s delightful… and I’m not even being sarcastic
Big Belly Burger!
Tina Boland, CCPD
Calling in a favor with SINGH
There’s your proof! Thanks Barry!
Yeah, she trained Yao Fei… Family secret, code for Lazarus Pit
Destined for much more, she’s right, yeah
So much BBB these weeks, I love it
The answer is yes, you’re always Terrific
Room 511… Episode 5x11.. y’all are cute
Yeah she’s not gonna listen.. Oh, nice with the toys there
Nice with the trick arrow
Sales pitch time, give it good, Oliver
Okay so that didn’t quite work
Bloody hell, Rene…
Lil Smoak darling, you need to sleep a bit
Ghost Fox Goddess, ha! Bad choices, no kidding
Miss Loco Bananas… Bro leave the naming to pros… Like Cisco
Hurray for Team Second Chances!
Oh of course he got powers too… but Oliver’s got arrows Oh oops he gone
Related powers, do tell
So she liked that he didn’t just shoot him and he beat him to death instead?
No mask or anything, Lil Smoak?
Oh you’re a rambly girl, lovely
My gosh she’s Lil Smoak 2.0… unless she’s faking… please don’t fake though, you’re cute
Helix…
Oh going for the mask off approach, interesting
That’s a start!
Ha, adjust that cheer for badassery, Curtis
Ha, Telus building, I see you
That? Looks that way…
So, so many things she’s not telling
Pandora files, oh boy
Hurray for Diggnation! I’m still scared for him though, please don’t hurt my Diggy
Oh Oliver you’re not a monster
Create a difference, give the monster an identity. The monster becomes someone else, something else, and you’re Oliver! Yeeeeeah THERE HE IS
What up, New Bird!
Yeah I could have told you that
His second chance, aww
DINAH DRAKE! Yeeeah… Oh it means something alright
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The Felicity nerd in this was so cute. I loved her fanngirling over Felicity.

tbh I didnt enjoy this episode as much because of all the focus on the new canary. I would have rather it focused on Katie, but oh well. Lost opportunity.
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