Arrow - [3x09] The Climb: Episode Discussion

Charlone · 12-09-2014, 01:15 PM

The Climb - midseason finale
3x09- episode discussion

RA’S AL GHUL GIVES OLIVER AN ULTIMATUM; DINAH LANCE PAYS LAUREL A VISIT — Nyssa (guest star Katrina Law) returns to Starling City and tells Oliver (Stephen Amell) that her father, Ra’s al Ghul (guest star Matt Nable) has given Oliver 48 hours to find Sara’s killer or the League of Assassins will start killing the citizens of Starling City. Laurel (Katie Cassidy) is stunned when her father (Paul Blackthorne) delivers a very special Christmas gift – her mother, Dinah (guest star Alex Kingston). Meanwhile, Ray (Brandon Routh) tries to make amends with Felicity (Emily Bett Rickards) and Oliver sets a meeting with Ra’s al Ghul.
Thor Freudenthal directed the episode written by Jake Coburn & Keto Shimizu (#309). Original airdate 12/10/2014.

Promo

‘Arrow’ Midseason Finale Extended Promo: ‘The Climb’ | The CW Source

Promotional photos

‘Arrow’ Midseason Finale Promotional Photos: ‘The Climb’ | The CW Source

Sneak Peeks

‘Arrow’ 3×09 Sneak Peek: ‘The Climb’ | The CW Source

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Against_all_odds · 12-10-2014, 07:03 PM

What the

hell? I don't know what shocked me more: Thea killing Sara or Oliver being "killed".

Malcolm has outdone himself,but I still prefer him to Harrison Wells on The Flash. This really is a cliffhanger and it was a lot better than The Flash. Also, the Olicity moment was awesome. Hell,they even showed The A.T.O.M. Poor Felicity-She keeps meeting hot superheroes. How is she supposed to pick?

**eternalfate** · 12-10-2014, 07:05 PM

Man.

People were predicting it was Thea to have killed Sara and I counted that out as even a possibilitiy but....

man.
I loved the A-Team, that Roy didn't let his feelings for Thea cloud his judgement that Thea could be the one who killed Sara.

"I can't imagine there's a man on the planet who would ever regret kissing you."
Ray with the romantic lines tonight.

I loved hearing a bit of Ray story.

poor guy, although we know he is still keeping his secrets. So I loved in the end Ray told Felicity the whole story and I loved Felicty quote "Why does this keep happening to me?"

She is always meeting people who save the world or something. lol

I loved seeing Dinah Lance back, she's such a smart woman and I feel so bad for her. Alex Kingston just does such a great job of portraying her, I just always feel her emotions.

She does love Sara so much, so to lose her again.

I loved Diggle being the man of real bold words, he didn't let Oliver cut him off at all. Oliver does have a blind spot for his family members. First Moira and now, Thea. I think Oliver just couldn't believe that his sister would do this.

Oliver has some bad family members man, he's way better then his whole family man. The A-Team is his family [not by blood] I prefer.
I understand Oliver protecting Thea... but I don't really like it.
I just think he can't lose someone else... and Thea would die so I get it.

So Thea is the killer with no memory of it... man it's sad to see what she's became.

I loved Sara so much so forgiving Thea... even for something she doesn't remember will be difficult for me to do.

I guess I'm cruel.

I agree with Dinah so much, Sara deserves so much more than this.

It's sad when she was younger, she was a Doctor to heal people.

That Olicity scene in the end.

two things he's very sure about. The first thing is that he'd do absolutely anything to protect his sister and the 2nd thing is that he loves her.

I love him finally, really, really saying it. Beautiful scene.

I can understand that request that Felicity gave Oliver about killing Ra's al Ghul. You'd need all the strength going up against Ra.

That last scene.

was so shocking.

What in the world...
Jezz the next episode couldn't come sooner man.

ShadowhunterღReader · 12-10-2014, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Against_all_odds (View Post)

What the

hell? I don't know what shocked me more: Thea killing Sara or Oliver being "killed".

YEAH TELL ME ABOUT IT!!! I knew Malcolm was involved somehow but to make his own daughter kill Sara

Then the ending scene

And of course Stephen has to tweet "It was a nice run" after it ended made me even more mad I want to go and stab myself now..

I knew Mama Lance was going to see right through Laurel and figure out that Sara is dead. Poor Quentin not knowing is daughter is dead..

That Laurel and Thea scene in the beginning of the episode! LOVED it, was so happy to see these two share screen time and a hearbreaking moment like that.. only to have it end up Thea is the one that killed her sister..

That was a big

for me!

Pissed that we didn't get a laurel and Ollie scene, and pissed at that cliffhanger! LIKE REALLY?? REALLY???

crash landing · 12-10-2014, 07:38 PM

GOHKLGDRHGNDGDHSTHREUKDGHD

that's all I've got right now beside to say from start-finish

WOW

Cliff hanger

Charlone · 12-10-2014, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Against_all_odds (View Post)

What the

hell? I don't know what shocked me more: Thea killing Sara or Oliver being "killed".

Oliver being "killed", for sure. I have speculated so much about Sara's death, that really I'm not so surprised about that. I thought about it several times. After all, I'm not going to hate her for this, and I'm not going to stop watching. She didn't know who the Canary was, that's why she thought Sara was still alive. Actually, her murderer was Malcolm.

I liked so much Ray today. To be honest, I expected something different for him and Felicity. This is like Barry/Felicity, just a kiss... and nothing more left. After all, I'm so happy that he told her the truth about what he was doing.
"Why does this keep happening for me?"

Dinah Lance is very smart, really. Something I want to add, is that I don't like how thin is Laurel now. Is that an idea of the writers? Her legs are so skinny

.

Laurel and Thea scene was very emotional, I loved it!

Against_all_odds · 12-10-2014, 07:46 PM

I can ship Felicity with everyone and anyone. Hell,I ship her with her computer and short skirts.

Sara is why I started watching this show,but I can't hold it against Thea. Her father is a sick man and he drugged his own child. She'd fall apart if she knew that she killed someone.

I loved Laurel and Dinah's scenes. At least one parent got to mourn Sara and it got out,even if I wish they'd just tell Quentin already. I mean,are they going to wait until he's 80?

The Sara/Nyssa feels were too much. "You'll see her before I do."

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Originally Posted by HaylijahღEndgame (View Post)

YEAH TELL ME ABOUT IT!!! I knew Malcolm was involved somehow but to make his own daughter kill Sara

Then the ending scene

And of course Stephen has to tweet "It was a nice run" after it ended made me even more mad I want to go and stab myself now..

I knew Mama Lance was going to see right through Laurel and figure out that Sara is dead. Poor Quentin not knowing is daughter is dead..

That Laurel and Thea scene in the beginning of the episode! LOVED it, was so happy to see these two share screen time and a hearbreaking moment like that.. only to have it end up Thea is the one that killed her sister.

Btw,your icon is really hot. I don't watch the show,but I always thought those two would be a good couple.

I'm actually happy with the ending. It was a shock, it wrapped up perfectly and now the fun can begin. The scene was great,but I think Laurel will forgive her. It's what Tommy would want and Malcolm is the real killer. Oliver can't actually die or the show would be over. It would be better if he's dead considering how hard he must have landed.

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Oliver being "killed", for sure. I have speculated so much about Sara's death, that really I'm not so surprised about that. I thought about it several times. After all, I'm not going to hate her for this, and I'm not going to stop watching. She didn't know who the Canary was, that's why she thought Sara was still alive. Actually, her murderer was Malcolm.

I liked so much Ray today. To be honest, I expected something different for him and Felicity. This is like Barry/Felicity, just a kiss... and nothing more left. After all, I'm so happy that he told her the truth about what he was doing.
"Why does this keep happening for me?"

Dinah Lance is very smart, really. Something I want to add, is that I don't like how thin is Laurel now. Is that an idea of the writers? Her legs are so skinny

.

Laurel and Thea scene was very emotional, I loved it!

I think it's intentional. She's a mess because of another tragedy and she's been fighting. I love how Dinah's face was when she told Laurel to make them pay. Thea didn't know wtf she was doing,let alone that she was killing Sara. I think Ray does like her,but he's conflicted. His A.T.O.M. storyline matters more,but I think he is attracted to her.

ShadowhunterღReader · 12-10-2014, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlone (View Post)

Oliver being "killed", for sure. I have speculated so much about Sara's death, that really I'm not so surprised about that. I thought about it several times. After all, I'm not going to hate her for this, and I'm not going to stop watching. She didn't know who the Canary was, that's why she thought Sara was still alive. Actually, her murderer was Malcolm.

Does she remember actually killing her though? Cuz to me she seemed a little out of it, like maybe she was forced to do it. I hate Malcolm more than I hate Thea.

crash landing · 12-10-2014, 07:48 PM

Thea was drugged and has no memory of doing it

Malcolm is more on the hate feelings cause had a hate/like but not so much anymore. How could he do this to Thea

**eternalfate** · 12-10-2014, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Against_all_odds (View Post)

Sara is why I started watching this show,but I can't hold it against Thea. Her father is a sick man and he drugged his own child. She'd fall apart if she knew that she killed someone.

I loved Laurel and Dinah's scenes. At least one parent got to mourn Sara and it got out,even if I wish they'd just tell Quentin already. I mean,are they going to wait until he's 80?

The Sara/Nyssa feels were too much. "You'll see her before I do."

I love Sara so much, so it's difficult for me to love Thea right now.

Although this just shows how evil Malcolm is.

I agree, it's time for Quentin to know, although I understand the reasoning to not telling him

I loved that mention from Nyssa as well.

Happy I wasn't the only one to notice it.

crash landing · 12-10-2014, 07:50 PM

Nyssa

Nyssa/Sara just blows my mind

that comment she made to Oliver was insane, she still loves Sara and breaks my heart

Charlone · 12-10-2014, 07:51 PM

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Does she remember actually killing her though? Cuz to me she seemed a little out of it, like maybe she was forced to do it. I hate Malcolm more than I hate Thea.

I don't know., maybe I lost that thing. But what if she does? She won't know The Canary was Sara (correct me if I'm wrong). For sure she felt like Oliver after his first murder, but she won't feel as guilty as she would if she knew it was Sara.

Quentin's heart is not ready for realizing about it. That's why Laurel wants to keep the secret.

ShadowhunterღReader · 12-10-2014, 07:57 PM

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Thea was drugged and has no memory of doing it

Malcolm is more on the hate feelings cause had a hate/like but not so much anymore. How could he do this to Thea

Exactly what I thought!

crash landing · 12-10-2014, 07:57 PM

I like my villains

I do but Malcolm has gone too far this time

Charlone · 12-10-2014, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Beyond Insane (View Post)

Thea was drugged and has no memory of doing it

Malcolm is more on the hate feelings cause had a hate/like but not so much anymore. How could he do this to Thea

As Oliver said, Malcolm does not really love Thea....

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