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Old 07-24-2014, 09:35 AM
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I really think they don't want to reveal anything about this triangle and making Sean a regular would reveal a lot, it would be obvious OQ is endgame. So they are waiting, that's my opinon.
The writers TOLD us it is. The endgame is known.

Tink TOLD Regina who it is if she opened herself to the opportunities. But the journey to accepting and getting the relationship to work is the story. The beginning and end is known; it's the middle that we are watching.


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And if the dailies don't play out visually the way they hoped? What then are the options... would they change direction away from OQ and write out Robin Hood?

Sorry again I don't mean to be totally negative. And it's hard to imagine they wouldn't like what they see after half a season of seeing Regina and Robin Hood interaction, right? Just curious what you see happening if they don't like what they see.
The dailys I'm referring too are not Sean and Lana, but Sean and Christie.

In the fireside chat in the finale, Robin tells Regina he would have walked to hell to get his wife back. Because it says something about the man and his ability to commit and love deeply. His capacity for a long-term, faithful, monogamous relationship is at his core. Thus making him an attractive suitor for Regina who needs that sort of commitment from that type of man.

Therefore for the betterment of the overall OQ story and as I stated in another thread (Marian's), in the story Robin and Marian are married and Sean and Christie need "to bring it." We need to see and feel the love between was real and genuine. That Robin did indeed love Marian to his core and her death was (will be) devastating to him. Thereby giving him something in common with Regina (devastated by Daniel's death). So if and when Marian passes, Regina will understand his deep loss and both have a deeper understanding and gives them something in common.

This can only work if Sean and Christie have amazing chemistry and make the Robin/Marian love story believable. If the chemistry isn't working as evident in the dailys then the writers have a problem and need to make some story work. They could shorten their story and then creative an alternative. OQ will happen, but will it be as beautiful as it could be. Making Marian a shrew, or whiny, or less lovable doesn't enhance or "hurry up" the OQ story. It makes it bland.

OQ is ultimately about second chance at love story. So both parties have to have lost a serious love to connect and bond over. Cheapening the Robin/Marian story sully that IMHO.

Secondly, OQ is a vehicle to move the Regina story. Put the character in the same position (losing a love - Daniel redux) and gauging her handling personally devastating news. Is she lashing out, again? Seeking revenge on Marian (as she did to Snow)? Threatening her child, Roland (as she did Emma)? This is a test for Regina and how she handles it and if she is truly redeemed. A&E during interviews tell us she's on that path, and the writers are going to show us all season long by the choices she makes.

So Robin and Marian's half of the story needs to work for the story to make sense. They need to be a couple in love (as deeply as Regina loved Daniel) so when "it" happens, we weep for Robin's loss. And look forward to Regina helping him through the pain of that loss.

Better story overall for an OQ love story.

Hope I helped.

ETA - heading off to SDCC so wrote in a rush. Please excuse the spelling, punctuation and grammatical errors. Acck! Humble apologies. Post when I can.
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:41 AM
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All is in favor of Sean becoming a regular. He likes his character, he gets along with his co-stars, Lana likes working with him and they like playing off each other and have great chemistry. AnE said they wanted Sean already in season 1, but he was busy with another show, which means the creators love him too. Robin is a beloved character, fans love him and they seem to love OQ. Eddy also said there is a journey ahead of Outlaw Queen. Robin is Regina's soulmate. Lets be optimistic.

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So Robin and Marian's half of the story needs to work for the story to make sense. They need to be a couple in love (as deeply as Regina loved Daniel) so when "it" happens, we weep for Robin's loss. And look forward to Regina helping him through the pain of that loss.
Sorry but i don't agree with this. First this is OQ's story, not Robin and Marian's, second Robin moved on, it has been years, Marian is still that same woman he fell in love with but he is not the same. Yes, he will always love her but i'm pretty sure she is nothing but his past and he will have to accept that sooner or later. Jmo of course.
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:42 AM
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Hahah this is how you write when you're in a rush??? Then WOW girl!!

Thank you for everything you pointed out. I agree that if they cheapen the Robin/Marian relationship it minimizes the common loss he and Regina share. In the end I hope you are right and my babies end up together and, as Regina said, "stronger than ever".

Have loads of fun in SDCC! Make sure to learn as much for OQ as you can!!
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Old 07-24-2014, 10:10 AM
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We need to see and feel the love between was real and genuine. That Robin did indeed love Marian to his core and her death was (will be) devastating to him. Thereby giving him something in common with Regina (devastated by Daniel's death). So if and when Marian passes, Regina will understand his deep loss and both have a deeper understanding and gives them something in common.
I agree and I think that we've seen that this is something they have bonded over already. This is a 2nd chance for both of them.

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So Robin and Marian's half of the story needs to work for the story to make sense. They need to be a couple in love (as deeply as Regina loved Daniel) so when "it" happens, we weep for Robin's loss. And look forward to Regina helping him through the pain of that loss.
This is where I disagree a bit. Let's say that they show Robin/Marian still deeply in love even now, after her return. If this is true, then he chooses Marian. She dies, he is devastated. He needs to mourn for at least half a season or it isn't believable. OQ is now pushed off until at least S5. So Regina understands, she is basically his friend at this time, and eventually he and Regina get together. At this point what they've said is that Marian is the great love of Robin's life. He can love Regina as well, but the fact remains that he chose Marian over Regina.

What I hope to see is they show that Marian/Robin had a great love story and that he was devastated when she died, but that he moved on, and while he still loves and cares for her now, he is no longer "in love" with her the way he loves Regina. He needs to choose Regina in order for the OQ story to work. Just my thoughts of course.
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Old 07-24-2014, 10:19 AM
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This is where I disagree a bit. Let's say that they show Robin/Marian still deeply in love even now, after her return. If this is true, then he chooses Marian. She dies, he is devastated. He needs to mourn for at least half a season or it isn't believable. OQ is now pushed off until at least S5. So Regina understands, she is basically his friend at this time, and eventually he and Regina get together. At this point what they've said is that Marian is the great love of Robin's life. He can love Regina as well, but the fact remains that he chose Marian over Regina.

What I hope to see is they show that Marian/Robin had a great love story and that he was devastated when she died, but that he moved on, and while he still loves and cares for her now, he is no longer "in love" with her the way he loves Regina. He needs to choose Regina in order for the OQ story to work. Just my thoughts of course.
THIS. He NEEDS to choose Regina. Robin and Marian's love story should be told in the flashbacks, like Stable Queen was. This sl now should serve as a great parallel to what Regina went through in 2x05 with Daniel. Robin should be devastated, Regina should be there for him, but he needs to choose Regina.
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Old 07-24-2014, 10:34 AM
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I agree with you both 100%! You said everything I think too.
In my opinion if the writers wanted to have Robin Hood and Maid Marian as a great love story in the present their chance was when they made Robin Hood come to OuaT. But now it is too late. Now they had him in all of the 2nd part of the 3 season and he and all the viewers thought Marian was dead. The viewers saw a Robin Hood after he lost his great first love and went through dark times and mourned her and moved on. Then fell in love again.
They can tell more of Robin Hood and Maid Marian as their great first love together in the flashbacks. But they cannot build up Robin Hood after it and with a new life and new love in the third season and then change their minds and push Robin Hood and Maid Marian as the same great love in the present in the fourth season. It would not be good writing in my opinion. For Robin. Because if they do this in my opinion it will weaken the person they made him in the 3rd season if they make him forget all that was after he thought Marian was dead. What he went through and how it changed him and if he can just go back to who he was before and who he and Marian were before.
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Old 07-24-2014, 11:55 AM
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CityGal -- thanks for answering my question. Now I understand what you were / are saying.

I do agree with Sherry, Sanja and Neverlight that Robin and Marian can't be a true love story in the present because it then overshadows and supersedes OQ. It wouldn't be believable to me that Robin could be in love with both women in an epic, true love way at the same time, so if his love for Marian is reignited in the present, that to me is the end of OQ unless a long time of mourning (assuming Marian dies again) and other circumstances occur where I would find it believable that he feels that same true love for another woman (Regina) a second time. Now if they show the true love of Robin and Marian in flashbacks, that would be very good, so the viewers have an understanding of the depth of his prior love and his loss. I think it important for us to have more knowledge of who Robin was and is, to feel like he is an equal part of the story with Regina, not just the person she fell in love with a second time.

About Sean being a regular or not, ok I concede to all the positive thoughts in here. I originally had the opinion myself that they are delaying him being a regular or not announcing it to make more suspense for the OQ story. But the longer it goes on, the more it seems to me a flimsy reason to not give an actor proper credit or possibly pay scale. This is his career and livelihood we're talking about after all.
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Old 07-24-2014, 02:55 PM
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Guys, please remember that is is the general Sean thread. If you're having several posts mainly about his relationship with Regina (even if other stuff is also brought up), then those are better suited for the Regina/Robin thread

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Old 07-25-2014, 05:19 AM
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Sorry Miss Cam, we got carried away.

Lets go back to this hottie

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It would not be good writing in my opinion. For Robin. Because if they do this in my opinion it will weaken the person they made him in the 3rd season if they make him forget all that was after he thought Marian was dead. What he went through and how it changed him and if he can just go back to who he was before and who he and Marian were before.
That's a very good point, imo. Whatever the show decides to do with regards to Robin and the two women, I hope they're not planning to disregard how the years after he lost Marian have come to change and shape him into the person he is now. It would only serve to sell his jourrney as a character, outside of any potential romance, short and work against what Sean has relayed on for his approach to the character.

Thanks for the art, Jem. I'm still hoping we're going to see a bit more of Robin and Charming this coming season.
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Wow! That is a nice pic of Sean colorblind! When is that from?
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Wow! That is a nice pic of Sean colorblind! When is that from?
"The Tower" episode 3.14
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Wow! That is a nice pic of Sean colorblind! When is that from?
It's from 2003.
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I'm still hoping we're going to see a bit more of Robin and Charming this coming season.
I want it too!
The picture of Sean is really nice!
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