[Raguoc]

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4*23: WHO WILL TAKE THE CURE? — On Graduation Day, Mystic Falls is overrun with ghosts intent on settling old scores and fulfilling their supernatural destinies. Damon’s life is in danger after a ghostly encounter, while Matt and Rebekah join forces to battle a ghost determined to find the cure. As everyone gathers for the graduation ceremony and the ghosts converge, help comes from an unlikely hero. Caroline receives a touching and unexpected graduation present, and Bonnie’s plan leads to the closing of the veil. Elena makes a decision about the Salvatore brothers and faces an epic confrontation with Katherine. Finally, Stefan discovers a horrifying clue to the mystery surrounding Silas.

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[Bree347]

tftnt!

Originally Posted by how forever feels (View Post) I still don't see D/E being together at this point. The whole point of the sire bond was to have Elena be with Damon without tainting Elena's character. The whole point of rushing sex the episode after S/E broke up and having their first I love you be under the influence of the sire bond, is because that is D/E's chance. If they were meant to have a "real" relationship at this point, they would not have given us a D/E relationship all season, sire bond or not. I just don't see how anyone can think D/E will be together at this point in time. Especially when you think about the direct parallels of Damon not fighting the compulsion for her. It was meant to show the difference between him and Stefan, since he said "why, because Stefan could?" They would have an entire season of Damon being selfish with her to turn around and have Elena say, "let's give this a shot!"? I just really can't see that.

That's the thing though, b/c of all of that it makes zero sense that Elena would want to be with Damon. A lot of people who think DE are getting the love declaration do so because they've made it so obvious that Elena will want to be and should be with Stefan, that it's too obvious and has to be that setup for a ~shocking twist~ that Elena actually loves Damon.

Personally I don't believe DE will get the love declaration because I just can't buy it, like at all. I just can't picture the real Elena doing it. I still haven't been convinced after 4 seasons that Elena feels anything but pity & sexual attraction for Damon. If it does happen idk i'll probably laugh or just stare at the screen dumbfounded

I mean what Julie said about who Elena's "choice" is (I dislike saying that b/c she already made it ffs) in the finale ending up not mattering just makes me think SE will have a moment where it's clear where they both stand (I think Stef might not want to get back together), but then Stefan gets his mind wiped or gets the cure or whatever other drama they have going on gets in the way.

[You can't kill me!]

TFTNT

I am dreading Elena saying 'I love you' to Damon I know that alot of the fans on here can't really see that, but with how this show is.. it wouldn't suprise me at all.. my expectations for this finale are low.. lower then they ever have been and if by some chance I am wrong.. I am will be estatic.. but I just don't trust this show. On any other show.. I would know for sure that Stefan is it for Elena.. but on TVD

[DollyJfan4life]

"Plec says that despite the dissent in the fandom, the sire bond “absolutely” accomplished what the writers intended for it to accomplish. “The bottom line is that Elena as a human made a very, very, very clear choice that she would love Stefan always and forever,” she says. “But then her entire life turned upside down, and any feelings she originally had for Damon were still there, and of course magnified. There was always going to be a little bit of a confusion there for her — but not enough confusion for her to be over Stefan. It would take a lot to rip Elena away from loving Stefan. It would take years and seasons. We’d be eighty, if we followed the natural progression of that relationship.” Thus, as much as the sire bond was an obstacle for Damon and Elena, in some ways, it’s the thing that pushed Damon and Elena together. “The sire bond let us have a supernatural reason — and yes, albeit a controversial one — but a very bold way for Elena to finally feel comfortable acting on these feelings that she’s been struggling with now for a couple years. Without it she’d just have that confusion,” Plec explains."

‘The Vampire Diaries’: Julie Plec talks sire bond -- did it tear Damon and Elena apart or push them together? - Zap2it

Omg!

[how forever feels]

TFTNT!

Originally Posted by Bree347 (View Post) That's the thing though, b/c of all of that it makes zero sense that Elena would want to be with Damon. A lot of people who think DE are getting the love declaration do so because they've made it so obvious that Elena will want to be and should be with Stefan, that it's too obvious and has to be that setup for a ~shocking twist~ that Elena actually loves Damon.

I'm not worried about the shocking twist parts of it, because I think the shock will come into play when the cure and memory loss/whatever bad thing happens to Stefan occurs. Elena could declare her love for Stefan, and then Stefan loses his memories and there's your shocking twist. Just like last season, it was straight-forward that she chose Stefan, but the shock came in that she turned into a vampire, and no one knew what type of person/vampire she would be. I think the only conflict coming into play is what's going to happen to Stefan or Damon turning human, since that could be triangle conflict in the writers' mind.

"Plec says that despite the dissent in the fandom, the sire bond “absolutely” accomplished what the writers intended for it to accomplish. “The bottom line is that Elena as a human made a very, very, very clear choice that she would love Stefan always and forever,” she says. “But then her entire life turned upside down, and any feelings she originally had for Damon were still there, and of course magnified. There was always going to be a little bit of a confusion there for her — but not enough confusion for her to be over Stefan. It would take a lot to rip Elena away from loving Stefan. It would take years and seasons. We’d be eighty, if we followed the natural progression of that relationship.” Thus, as much as the sire bond was an obstacle for Damon and Elena, in some ways, it’s the thing that pushed Damon and Elena together. “The sire bond let us have a supernatural reason — and yes, albeit a controversial one — but a very bold way for Elena to finally feel comfortable acting on these feelings that she’s been struggling with now for a couple years. Without it she’d just have that confusion,” Plec explains."

i'm crying well I can't believe she just admitted that before the finale has even aired. but, it's what i've thought all along. the sire bond was only there to give DE fans their "time." none of elena's actions under the sirebond were her consent, therefore Stefan still is, always was and always will be her choice. Not only that, but it confirms to elena why her decision to be with stefan was the right one after all the ways she lost herself b/c of her year being damon's gf. people are worried that d/e didn't get their "turn" yet, like s/e did with last year's finale. but this season WAS d/e's turn.

[dbn]

Although I want to be happy - I will not trust anything until I have watched the episode myself!

I do not trust neither JP nor Carina

[Raguoc]

Originally Posted by DollyJfan4life (View Post) "Plec says that despite the dissent in the fandom, the sire bond “absolutely” accomplished what the writers intended for it to accomplish. “The bottom line is that Elena as a human made a very, very, very clear choice that she would love Stefan always and forever,” she says. “But then her entire life turned upside down, and any feelings she originally had for Damon were still there, and of course magnified. There was always going to be a little bit of a confusion there for her — but not enough confusion for her to be over Stefan. It would take a lot to rip Elena away from loving Stefan. It would take years and seasons. We’d be eighty, if we followed the natural progression of that relationship.” Thus, as much as the sire bond was an obstacle for Damon and Elena, in some ways, it’s the thing that pushed Damon and Elena together. “The sire bond let us have a supernatural reason — and yes, albeit a controversial one — but a very bold way for Elena to finally feel comfortable acting on these feelings that she’s been struggling with now for a couple years. Without it she’d just have that confusion,” Plec explains." ‘The Vampire Diaries’: Julie Plec talks sire bond -- did it tear Damon and Elena apart or push them together? - Zap2it Omg!

I'm really surprised Julie has been this candid before the end of the season. But it basically confirms what many suspected - that Elena only went with Damon due to the sire bond and without it, S/E would still be sitting on rainbows.

[dbn]

Originally Posted by Raguoc (View Post) S/E would still be sitting on rainbows.

Can we please get that back some time during S5?

[~AnastasiaGrey~]

The declaration is probably SE doesn't mean they will be together... So in reality its the opposite of what happen last year....


She chose Stefan and they were together...... but she turned into a vampire and they still were..


She choose him again this time.... Stefan looses his memories or something and that puts SE back in the position where they have to rebulid from start.

[dbn]

Yeah we have to prepare for something happening to Stefan I think

Slightly OT - is it true that Carina will not be covering neither TVD nor The Originals next season?

[Stay to the Lights]

MAYBE the declaration is SE, but before something can happen with them... something happens to Stefan.

[Bree347]

Originally Posted by how forever feels (View Post) i'm crying well I can't believe she just admitted that before the finale has even aired. but, it's what i've thought all along. the sire bond was only there to give DE fans their "time." none of elena's actions under the sirebond were her consent, therefore Stefan still is, always was and always will be her choice. Not only that, but it confirms to elena why her decision to be with stefan was the right one after all the ways she lost herself b/c of her year being damon's gf. people are worried that d/e didn't get their "turn" yet, like s/e did with last year's finale. but this season WAS d/e's turn.

mte. i can't believe she did this a week before the finale. she basically just said de on it's on was nothing. like she actually said free elena would never ever leave stefan for damon.

there is no way elena is declaring her love for damon in the finale, unless she's still sired

i can definitely see it being SE saying they love each other before stef gets his memories wiped

[butterfly-fly]

Wow, JP! I just don't know what to say - she was drunk or something to say that? Doesn't she fear DE fans will st her house on fire after that intrw? Was Carina crying typing this? Will there be any damage control after that statement?

I'm cautiously optimistic about the finale! Not long to wait!

[butterfly-fly]

Sorry for dp, guys

Desiree: I have to know who Elena will choose in TVD's season finale! While we won't reveal which Salvatore brother our heroine chooses, we can assure you that she does in fact pick one. (No Kelly Taylor-esque "I choose me" moment happening here!) As for the other brother, fret not as he'll have more than enough to deal with that not landing the girl (for now) will hardly register. Start prepping for one of the series' best twists ever, basically!

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Am I a bad SE fan because I almost want her to pick Damon so that Stefan would get that important storyline damn it! I'm tired of his sl being all about Elena. Why can't he have both?

[Stay to the Lights]

I think the important thing may be for Stefan, because I remember (I know, she lies. lol) JP saying about something huge coming up for Stefan, at the end of the season and in S5.