~ayumi~

Hamburgo1001

Thanks for the new thread Anna.

I just watched the latest episode of Fringe. Damn, I'm loving this season. So Peter has actually been noticing that Olivia has been different ever since they returned from the other side, but he's been willfully ignoring it. And it didn't stop him from having sex with her either. Typically male!

~ayumi~

Do they have more chemistry now at least? I remember you saying they look bored when they kiss

Hamburgo1001

I thought they were as awkward and chemistry-free as ever. It's so weird for me. I always used to hear how great Joshua Jackson was as a romantic lead on Dawson's Creek but I see nothing of the sort on Fringe. Whenever he and Torv have to become physical or romantic with each other in any way it's "meh". To me, it always looks like they are going through the motions. I also never saw any chemistry between Clark and Lana on Smallville but at least with them I got the feeling that they were trying.

~ayumi~

That's too bad I've never seen Joshua Jackson in anything so I can't say how good he is as a romantic lead, I have no idea. Same for Anna Torv. I hope they find that missing chemistry!

Hawthorn

Thanks for the new thread!

I haven't watched Fringe 3x04 yet, but I just read that the show is indeed going on a mini-hiatus and will come back in November.

I don't see any romantic chemistry between Peter and Olivia either. In the S2 finale they have this big scene where she makes a pretty strong declaration of feelings to him, and I was like "oh, well, ok". That's how I usually relate to their romantic moments - I don't hate them, but I'm still in the indifference phase.

I watched Dawson's Creek and Joshua was great there, but on Fringe I feel like he's almost too.... boy-ish, for someone like Olivia. It's hard to explain, really.

Hamburgo1001

That sucks. Do you know when exactly the show will be back?

I too thought the kiss was lacking in passion and sensuality. The actors looked like they just wanted to get it over with. I think if I were a Peter/Olivia shipper I would have been disappointed with it after I waited nearly 50 episodes for that big romantic moment.

I've never watched DC but everyone who has seen it always used to tell me how great he was on that show, which is why his romantic acting on Fringe came as such a big surprise to me. I don't know what the issue is but you are right that Joshua has a boyish quality to him. Anna, however, has more of a mature look and I think she works better with guys who are more manly, e.g. the guy who played Olivia's husband in season 1.

Hawthorn

I read November 11. The hiatus is due to the National League Championship Series and the World Series of baseball.
True. There there was more intensity in their "almost kiss" in the episode where Olivia had to "reactivate" her ability to recognize things from the alternate universe than in the big scene of the finale.
John, the blond guy, right? Agreed. They looked like a better match precisely because the actor has that maturity in his looks JJ lacks. It doesn't help that the "man" of the team is basically Olivia.

Hamburgo1001

Oh man. I guess 1 or 2 episodes of Fringe are going to drop out of the sweeps period then.

I wonder if it's possible that Anna and Joshua did try to go for a more passionate kiss scene but it ended up looking so awkward that the producers chose to go with the underwhelming take that we have seen in the finale. The way the scene was written it was totally calling for a very passionate kiss and that makes it hard for me to believe that they didn't try it at least once.

Yes, that was him. He and Anna were actually married in real life. I'm actually of the opinion that Peter isn't that bad of a match for Olivia from a writing stand point. Sure, he's no well-trained FBI badass but he's a genius with an IQ of 190. He's capable. He knows how to behave in critical situations. He knows how to use a gun. He can fight. He's brave and tough. I would honestly be more than happy if certain other characters on certain other shows were in possession of just 50% of Peter's character traits. It's just that JJ's boyish looks combined with the huge focus on the Walter/Peter relationship make Peter appear younger and weaker than he really is and the character would give off a stronger vibe if he were played by an actor who is rougher around the edges. Just my opinion on the matter.

~ayumi~

Fran, have you seen Inception yet?

John is this guy? (I just googled them, I don't watch it yet)



Wow, they look so much better

Nanda loves him and she's gonna think I'm crazy, but I don't find Joshua Jackson attractive at all

Hawthorn

No Inception yet. They showed it at the threater next to my house last week-end, but I wasn't feeling too well and I should've gone to the movies alone at night, so I had to pass. :/

Yes, that's John!
Likely. I just hope the show's ratings stay steady when Fringe comes back.
I don't know. It's true that both characters, especially Peter, are pretty confused in that moment, but I remember wondering why Peter couldn't even put his other arm around her, and I found it funny.
I read that Joshua Jackson isn't too much of a fan of the O/P romance, or he wanted it to stay in the tension/friendship phase for longer. But don't take my words for granted because as I said I haven't read cast and TPTB interviews, I mostly just stumble upon comments of other Fringe fans on livejournal/twitter/tumblr.
Oh wow, I didn't know that! When did they split?
On paper, Peter is a great match for Olivia. And they've been very supportive of each other, they trust and respect the other person, they joke. That's why even if I'm not a shipper I have nothing against them getting together. But I believe that the show should've given more romantic undetones to their interaction before going full swing towards the "he went back to the other universe for her"/"she thinks he belongs with her" - and that could've helped to fill the gap created by the little romantic chemistry the actors have. They are the main leads and the only couple of the show so the writers could do whatever they wanted with them. When Peter went away after finding out about his origins, the main focus of worry was on Walter (and that's normal) but Olivia didn't look that much affected to me, same for Peter who is even flirting with a waitress.

~ayumi~

Aw Well, I hope you can see it soon. Or if not, you can wait and watch it once it's released on DVD

He's hawt

Hamburgo1001

Did Peter even move in the scene? I thought he looked stiff like a surf board. It was totally odd.

I know that Joshua, Anna and even John Noble weren't fans of the Peter/Olivia romance during the first 2 seasons of Fringe, but Anna has had a change of heart in recent months. I also used to think that the feelings of the actors could be a cause for the lack of romantic chemistry on-screen.

I think they split in April this year. It didn't last long. They were married for only a little over a year.

You are right. The build up wasn't really there. The almost kiss came kinda out of nowhere too. One of the things I have noticed is that the writers seem to use the side characters as mouth pieces for the Peter/Olivia romance a lot. Walter in particular.

He's very attractive. And he's the series lead of Human Target now.

You're not the only one because I don't find him attractive either.

~ayumi~

Holy djkflsdfsjf





He has his own show? *adds Human Target to her long list of shows to watch*

Phew, at least I'm not the only one.

Hamburgo1001

^ Wow, look at those arms.

Yeah, it's about a unique private bodyguard and security expert who tries to protect his clients by completely integrating himself into their lives in order to eliminate threats to their safety.