Since I am spoiler free/book free, the ending made my jaw drop. I was not expecting Katherine to show up. I knew Elena was acting kinda funny I just didn't know why. I didn't know if she might had lost her vervain/necklace in the chaos and was under compulsion to kill John, cause I didn't see it on her neck during the last scene (but since it was Katherine, it explains why her vervain/necklace was missing from her neck) or I didn't know if Bonnie holding onto to Elena during her spell, affected her in some way. I wondered about a few things, but not once, did I think it was Katherine until John said it outloud and then I was like OH SNAP! :lol: I just didn't expect to see her this season, even if it was the season finale and founders day. Great twist, IMHO and she is pretty badass. Hello John, Goodbye John! I don't think John is dead either.

I am wondering about Damon now. I think he has to know it's Katherine, the woman he's loved all these years and that's why he went in for a real kiss, after kissing her cheek. As much as I love Damon/Elena and are full force on that bandwagon, I kinda don't think Damon would have put the moves on Elena right after Stefan just saved his life. (even if he is heartless at times) Unless he's really falling for Elena hardcore. (which I'd be happy with) but I dunno, I think he knew it was Katherine, but was too in shock to rip her head off, for putting him through misery all these years. I know he hurts people, but I don't want to see him hurt and this can go either way. He can end up hurt cause he thinks Elena returned feelings for him and kissed him back, or can end up hurt, cause Katherine shows up, right as he's starting to let her go.

Poor Caroline. Tyler, oh my! Also, Anna's death was underwhelming. She was pretty awesome and deserved to go out with a bang. not helpless. It was very sad though.

Bonnie, yeah, still don't like you at all. Never will like you. GO AWAY!

I am always Hot and Cold with Jeremy. One minute I like him, the next I don't. I don't know what to think at this point.

I completely agree. It seems to me like when Anna grabbed his leg, he realised who she was and he even sounded sympathetic. But at the end of the day, he's human and she's a vampire. It also explains why he didn't give Damon a "mercy" death since he knows about Damon's past and of course how Damon is involved with his daughter. I also found it interesting how Elena called him crazy for burning the vampires but he simply told her it was the right thing to do. These vampires DID want revenge on the town. I get that Elena is emotionally involved with both Stefan and Damon but she's really forgetting what vampires really are. I honestly don't get the John hate. Even if he does appear to be a douche, all he is doing is protecting the town and his daughter. He didn't deserved to be killed by Katherine and I will be annoyed if he does die. The story potential for him and Elena would be completely wasted.

I really liked Anna, but there really wasn't any more story to tell. Her death pushed Jeremy over the edge and opened possibilities for Jeremy's character instead. I will however, be furious if Caroline dies because she still has so many ties to the characters of the show and I prefer some humans left in the main cast who are still in the dark. And because I love her character of course.

I have never really liked Bonnie but I always thought she did the right thing with the not!de-spelling the invention. Speaking of the invention - was anyone disappointed with it? I can understand that the "invention" was ahead of its time back in the days, but nowadays... really? :rolleyes: They could build something similar without any witchcraft considering the science in today's world.

As for the D/E/S - the only one I liked was Elena. I didn't like how Damon suddenly turned soft and walked around apologising to everyone. A more subtle transformation would have been way more preferable! I can't decide if it was Ian's portrayal or just the writing. In contrast, I found Isobel/Mia more convincing when she switched between on/off feelings moments. Basically, I didn't like how it was almost an 180 turn for Damon. Perhaps, this isn't a popular opinion but I just found Damon OTT.

Now, normally, I'm a total DE fan and I don't particular care for either SE nor Stefan. But I found him being insecure even more annoying. Yes, Damon's feelings are pretty much out in the open now, but Elena continues to tell and reassure him that she loves him. I don't get the insecurities at all. All his life, he was better than Damon in everyone's eyes. Their father. Katherine. And now Elena. I'm afraid that the writers will use this as SE's downfall and I think it's OOC for Stefan.

As previously mentioned, I thought the only one who behaved in character was Elena. Though she has created a bond with Damon, there's never been any doubts that she loves Stefan. That's why the moment that she and Damon kissed, I knew it was Katherine. Elena would NOT kiss Damon at this point (later on, who knows :D). Speaking of the kiss, hot, hot, hot. And so wrong. If Damon has indeed activated his humanity, how can he do something like this to Stefan? I think the best explanation would be that he only intended to kiss her on the cheek, sensed how not!Elena would totally make out with him, got caught up in the moment and just kissed her. I don't think Damon knew it was Katherine. It's been like 145 years since they last made out and he has never kissed Elena before. He definitely did realise/sense something was off. But Damon can't have known because there was no way Damon would have let Katherine walk into the house and just leave.

Can't wait for S2!!!

Edit:

The odds do not look good for Uncle/Daddy John because my gut tells me that Katherine came back to kill him for secretly adding the Salvatores to the list.

I have no problem with humans wanting to kill the vampires, but I do have a problem with them setting them on fire. There was no need for that kind of cruelty. They have the vamps, who posse no threat at this point, so why not just stake them. It would be more efficient and humane that way. Setting a building on fire isn't very safe to humans.

I liked the invention because it was created by Emily. She was stuck in the middle. She wanted to protect her vampire friends, but also didn't want to leave fellow humans completely helpless to vampires. I'm glad that Bonnie was shown to be right in not deactivating the device. It would have been a blood path if she did. I'm also glad that Bonnie seemed touched by Damon's sincere apology to her at the beginning of the parade. She looked genuinely surprised that he could show his humanity and isn't a complete monster. I think both Elena and Stefan's willingness to run into a burning building for him, gave Bonnie pause s she spared his life.

I don't think either Damon or Stefan were OOC. Damon has spent a century pushing down any human emotions and when he allowed himself to feel them, they all came bubbling up. It made him a vulnerable mess because he shut down for over a century. I think Stefan carries so much shame and self-hatred for what he has done, and to have Elena see him at his worst would be terrifying for him. I'm sure he thinks she'll leave him at any second. How could Elena possibly look at him with love and want to be with him, when he thinks he is a monster? Stefan is stripped bare emotionally in front of Elena, I'm not sure he can allow himself to believe that she will stay with him. I'm sure he is waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Ok...I'm gonna try my best to cover everything...

Stefan - I may be a DE fan but I want Stefan to get his own storyline! Other than the HB thing - it doesn't feel like he has had one really. Maybe I just haven't noticed :shrug: But I loved his scenes with Bonnie. I hope and trust the writers will expand on that relationship.

Bonnie - I'm so conflicted over Bonnie. She has never been my fave but I always used to enjoy the EB scenes. Their little wave while Elena was on the float was a throwback to that and it was lovely. I DO understand where Bonnie is coming from but I just want to see her be a bit smiley for once? :lol:

Also, I'm not sure how I feel about her threatening SD. I get that she has got stronger but I feel its too soon for her to be able to do that...hopefully she is just overconfident.

Matt/Caroline - Cute. I enjoyed them. I'm sure Caroline will survive and maybe this will make Matt realise how much he reallyyy cares for her?

Tyler - Awesome!! Awesome. Awesomeeee. Loved the teases. He is going to rock season 2. And I love him and Matt's friendship.

Ahhh...Im already forgetting things :lol:

Jeremy/Anna Gutted about Anna. :bawl: And I have never really cared for Jer but it makes me sad that he is so low. LOVED his scene with Damon!

Alaric - Not enough of him but what we did get was awesome and always happy to see Team BadAss still going strong.

Sheriff/Mayor/His wife - Was it just me that is consistently impressed by these adults? I love that I still find a way to care for them. I LOVE the Sheriff. I felt sorry for the Mayors Wife and I adored seeing the Mayor actually show worry for Tyler.

Ok...I can't resist anymore....main point... :lol:

THE END.

The Kiss. - I KNEW it was going to be Katherine very early in the ep. Their were only a couple of scenarios that a DE kiss could ever work and they were all stamped on quite early.

My take on it was that Damon had NO IDEA that it was Katherine. He was pretty emotional and messed up and he DOES have strong feelings for Elena. I also don't think he ever intended on kissing her. I think the cheek-kiss was as far as he was ever going to go, as a sign of affection that he was sure Elena would warn him off of.

But then she almost turned towards him and I know some are upset because of Stefan...but in that moment, considering the big talk he'd just had with Jeremy. I think all his emotions overwhelmed Damon and he slowly leant in...just WAITING for her to reject him.

I don't think he would have been so tentative if he had realised it was Katherine.

To his suprise Elena kissed him back and I think if the kiss had gone on much longer he may have pulled away all 'Huh?' But he was lost in it for a moment.

I DO agree that Damon thought something was up at the end. But I strongly believe he would NEVER have just let Katherine waltz in to Elena's home.


Final thoughts...

Nina is amazing. Her switch between Elena/Katherine was so nuanced :clap: And Katherine was awesome!

Oh and John - am I the only one that hopes he isnt dead?? I LOVED his scene with real Elena. And just like Damon's speech, it makes me sad that Elena didn't hear John's speech - I want Elena to know that. :nod:


That was a mess. I'm sorry. Too much too think about :lol:

Great post Schumiac ^THIS




Actually that was my fav Stefan scene from the whole season. He was cold and protective and I got the impression, you touch Damon I might kill you first. So yeah lets hope it doesn´t come to this. It was all in his eyes IMO.

I also loved that scene between Stefan and Bonnie, it actually reminded me of Grams and Stefan's scene about protecting her own, to me I dont think he was cold I actually saw an understanding between the two and them sort of calling a truce for now but if things get out of control they will go back to their own sides. But I do agree that he really would rather not see things come to that.

Hopefully it wont come to that because I like their interactions and want them to be friends

What I took from the Bonnie/Stefan scene was that Stefan would take his brothers side. Stefan has thins thing where nobody but him can hurt Damon :lol: and the ep. did prove that as much as he hates Damon he does care for him. I love the SD relationship so much :love:

i think thats what i love the most about S/D. They can act like they hate each other all the time, but at the end of the day, they will always be there for each other.

I loved when Stefan said "He's my brother."

Yeah they don't. But it's just fact that if anyone she cares about or innocent people gets hurt that Damon will pay for it. I really don't see what's so wrong with her saying that.

Well, quite frankly I think they decided on killing the vamps in that way because it would be easy to cover it up. I also believe that it's to show how there's a different side to everyone including humans. To humans, the vampires are animals and doesn't deserve kindness. John only made an exception for Anna because he knew her, and he knew deep inside that she wasn't all bad even if his instinct is to hate vampires. I like that about about the show, no one is all black or white.

I don't mind the invention as such, but it just wasn't all that amazing. Yes, back in the days, it was something ahead of its time, but not nowadays. Knowing what it does now, I have a hard time believing all the work Isobel, John, Katherine etc. put in getting it in the first place, seeing as it would be relatively possible to re-create something similar.

I appreciate that Damon have spent a century repressing his feelings and they are now resurfacing. But because he has been so good at repressing the feelings, I don't see him letting it all out at once. Even if he is now feeling his humanity, Damon is not the kind of person to show it to everyone. And as a viewer I felt a very abrupt change in character.

I also understand your point regarding Stefan. However, I don't see the insecurities when it comes to Damon. If it was someone like Matt perhaps, because he's human and a good person. But if Elena rejects Stefan because she's seen his dark side, how could she accept Damon who have done even darker things?

Exactly, which is why I think Elena and Bonnie won't ever be able to be friends again. Elena is hanging out with the very guy who tried to kill Caroline and Bonnie and she doesn't find the slightest thing wrong with it. He's killed innocent people and Elena doesn't think about that. It's something that Bonnie cannot ignore. That's also why I think her talk with Stefan was much more about an understanding. She won't outright attack them, she's giving them both a chance to live their lives. But if Damon goes all rampage again, she's going to do something about it, and why shouldn't she?

How could she go on a road trip with the guy who tried to kill two of her best friends? How could she laugh at them for hating Damon? How could she laugh and Damon joking about his days with Caroline? She's been ignoring a whole lot of things already and Damon has been very sweet and kind to her. I think, Stefan isn't worried about Elena's feelings, he's worried about Damon in general. Stefan never even said a word to Elena about this whole thing. Stefan is completely fine with Matt still liking Elena, but he also knows that his brother can sweet talk pretty much anyone. Damon's the one who's friends with the sheriff and who's buddy-buddy with Alaric, after all :shrug:

THIS. Damon is......yeah.

sweet_zelda, I love your posts regarding Elena! Elena is a terrible friend to Caroline and Bonnie.

In a way, I'm not surprised by it, though. There's a reason that Stefan is worried about Damon, after all :shrug: I'm a bit shocked though that Damon didn't find anything weird with the fact that "Elena" would kiss him.

Seriously loved the episode. So many great endings!

Dude I'm sure once Jeremey changes he's gonna be an awesome vampire. Couldn't believe he took the pills though too. He doesn't care what he does just as long as he doesn't feel anything.

And OMG to see Katherine at the end, so did not expect that!

Okay, my thoughts. I've had time to think it over. First, I'm going to be sad that there will be no new episodes for a while for me to recap in here :( I know they sometimes sucked but I had to run between my room and the TV room and get everything down before the commercials ended. Nonetheless, I enjoyed doing it. Till next season for that.

I was kinda meh-ed by the finale but I liked it at the same time. I expected Anna to die but I thought it would be next season, not this one. I feel bad for Jeremy. He's lost two girlfriends now. I also called Katherine coming back and somehow I like it more when Nina plays Katherine that when she plays Elena. Which is leading me to this. I can't get warmed up to any of the girls in this series. And the ones I do like eventually end up dead or don't stay around for long. If I had to pick a main girl in this series that I do like, I guess it is Caroline. But she still hasn't been told a whole lot of what's going on. I feel like she gets shafted a lot. Maybe next season will be better for her. And speaking of next season, I can't wait to see more Tyler. Finally, he's getting something interesting happening with him!

I will miss...Sark...um, Uncle John. Even though I knew Katherine would cut off his fingers, I still jumped at that part.

Till next season, everyone. It's been fun.

~CT