BabyJ

(This thread is replacing the season finale discussion on top of the board, but if you're looking for that discussion thread, don't despair. It's right here. And if you want to see the discussion threads for all the other episodes of the season, there's a linked listing here.)

The first season is over, meaning all these discussion threads are likely to wilt away into oblivion--or at least to some later pages. Since there's not much purpose in keeping any specific discussion thread atop the board, how about an overall discussion thread instead? After all, this is the first season of 90210, so there were many kinks/bumps/issues the show had to get through while trying to find a direction.

Here are some questions to consider, kinda to act as a guide to how to approach this general discussion thread. Please feel free to add in your own comments/suggestions/etc. as you please and see fit (and also not respond to any you don't want to). Just remember to keep everything respectful and constructive please. There is a diverse group of posters on this board, so your least favorite character/actor may very well be another person's favorite.

Oh, and please explain why you think what you think, so as to keep the discussion going; it's better to provide more thoughts for people to respond to than to simply give one-word or one-phrase answers that do not allow for much response.


What was your favorite episode of the season? What was your least?
What were you disappointed with (in regards to the show, the writers/writing, the actors, etc.) this season?
What did you not see happening (but did this season)?
What storyline/relationship/character/etc. would you have liked more development for?
Was there a storyline/relationship/character/etc. you wished the writers had chucked?
Who was your favorite character? Least favorite?
Were any of the characters/actors what you expected them to be from the beginning of the season?
If not, what would you have done differently in regards to these characters/actors?
What did you think of the appearances from the actors/characters of the original show?
What show, possibly with a specific season, would you compare 90210's first season to? What show would you like 90210 to model itself after?
What would you rate this show so far? What rating do you think the show has the potential to reach?
What do you want the writers to do next season?


ETA (and very optional): Also, do you have any suggestions for this board, both in regards to how it's run and how to keep this board active during this long summer break? We're open to ideas and promise to give everything full consideration.

sharmans

This is a great idea, Jen Can't wait to read everyones answers

falling slowly

What were you disappointed with (in regards to the show, the writers/writing, the actors, etc.) this season? I was disappointed in the lack of individual character development. I was also disappointed in how they paired everyone up with their seems to be 'meant to be' so quickly/
What did you not see happening (but did this season)? I didn't think that Liam would sleep with Jen.
What storyline/relationship/character/etc. would you have liked more development for? Naomi, Dixon, Ryan, Kelly, Harry.
Was there a storyline/relationship/character/etc. you wished the writers had chucked? Siver.Dixon Dylan.Kelly Ethan.Silver.
Who was your favorite character? Least favorite? Favorite is Naomi. Least favorite is Annie.
Were any of the characters/actors what you expected them to be from the beginning of the season? I expected Naomi to be bad and bitchy, she is not.
If not, what would you have done differently in regards to these characters/actors? I would have made Annie with some sort of interesting quality to keep myself interested. I would have explained more where Liam is coming from.
What did you think of the appearances from the actors/characters of the original show? I really like their screentime, but I they shouldn't have messed up Dylan/Kelly David.Donna
What show, possibly with a specific season, would you compare 90210's first season to? What show would you like 90210 to model itself after?
What would you rate this show so far? 6 What rating do you think the show has the potential to reach? I think it has potential to reach 10 but they need to start building the characters and not rely on romances
What do you want the writers to do next season? I hope they focus more on characters and not just who they are dating. I do want LN to be on good terms.

Primal Slayer

What was your favorite episode of the season? What was your least?

• Favorite Episode would have to be Off The Rails. Probably the best directed episode of the season. Drama, comedy, editing, all good things.

What were you disappointed with (in regards to the show, the writers/writing, the actors, etc.) this season?

• The writing, the editing, how they basically screwed over Brenda, how they totally ruined Ethan, how they have almost ruined Annie (to the point of no return)

• When you look at Brenda as a teen and Brenda as a adult, its almost like she went backwards as she got older. Instead of becoming wiser and better with age, she became wimpy with age and didnt speak her mind like she used to and let people walk over her. Teen Brenda stood up for what she thought was right whereas Adult Brenda wouldnt even step up to the plate.

• They took Ethans charecter in so many directions it was just INSANE and just AWFUL writing, its laughable.

• Same can almost be said about Annie except they made her lil miss perfect who is always nice and cares more about others then she does her self.

• The Peach Pit...there really was no reason why they had to modernize it since it wasnt really modern back in the 90s either. It was like going back in time when you went inside and it was a warm place to be and hang with friends and just grab a burger and relax. The actual cool kids went there since they werent afraid to be seen in a place like that. Now its just another java/coffee place that has nothing special about it.

What did you not see happening (but did this season)?

• Silvers Bi-Polarness. Its something that never registered in my mind as something these writers would think of doing. Espically in the first season.

What storyline/relationship/character/etc. would you have liked more development for?

• Silver/Kelly, Silver/Naomi, Brenda/Kelly, Brenda/Adrianna, Ty, George. These are all charecters that were the most entertaining for me to watch this season and were the most interesting for me to watch.

• Silver/Kelly being the original links to the Bev90210 to 90210 just made them even more interesting and the lack of screentime they got together, espically with everything the two were going through was just a dissapointment. Plus add Jackie into the mix and 2 appearances with only one minute of screentime both times just doesnt cut it. Its a great storyline just waiting to get explored.

• They set up Silver/Naomi as frenemies at the very beginning and set up something interesting but of course they never really went and explored it but instead just chose to basically ignore it and have them become friends with one another way to easily and took away the story and all the nice drama that wouldve come with it.

• Brenda/Kelly...the last time we saw these two together was like in what? 1994/95? And the relationship was already strained back then even though they became friends again. And the two were at that point in their life again where they were at odds over the same guy that put them at odds back in high school. Instead of not having them fight over a guy, they did anyway and of course they made it a very one sided argument and didnt even properly resolve it, or have them come to a proper understanding at why they are BFFs. Plus we only got to see the negative side of B/K instead of the fun side (well we did, but very briefly) of these two like we got to see with Kelly/Donna.

• Brenda/Adrianna, while they made the best of their screen time together, it left me wanting more. I felt any scene Ade was in with Kelly should have been with Brenda instead since these two are basically the equivalant to Silver/Kelly even though they arent blood related, they might as well be sisters.

• Ty/George, here we had the charmer and 90210s original bad boy, both have so much more to offer and always had good screentime and storylines that its a shame to see they are not part of the main cast so they can get fleshed out more.

• Grandma Wilson, the funniest charecter of the bunch.

• Nat/90210 kids. He just had such a charisma with the original gang and was like a second father to all of them that its such a shame that they have the Peach Pit but they dont have Nat a part of it.

Was there a storyline/relationship/character/etc. you wished the writers had chucked?

• I will just get it out in the open..I am not a big fan of Ryans. He just seems so forced and very rarely helps bring anything to the show/storylines in any shape or form. Having him around just meant less screentime for the other charecters.

• Adrianna/Navid. While they probably got the most heart felt scenes out of any couple, they are just so forced together that I can not bring myself to ship them or see them together. They never interacted before getting together and then we just have this whole past made up with them being the film buddies when they were kids and how he has always loved her but just never said anything. Just a bunch of BS to me.

Who was your favorite character? Least favorite?

• Favorite: Silver/Kelly/Brenda/Adrianna

• As I said above, these were the most interesting charecters for me. Two of them being from the original Beg90210 cast and the other two being the newer charecters that were connected to the original cast in some shape or form and well they had the most interesting storylines and best actresses to play them.

• Least Favorite: Ryan/Adrianna (beginning of the season)
  As already stated, he brought nothing. Adrianna at the beginning, was just not a fan of the bitchy/druggy/poor me act.

Were any of the characters/actors what you expected them to be from the beginning of the season?
If not, what would you have done differently in regards to these characters/actors?

• I thought that Ty or George would have been around more as regulars since they were featured in some of the cast promotions in magazines.

• I thought that Aundreas daughter would have had more screen time, atleast as a reaccuring charecter due to her status and not as a lil *special* charecter that fans from the orig would recongize and just to make fun of the Aundrea charecter from the original.

What did you think of the appearances from the actors/characters of the original show?

• I for one loved seeing them and welcomed them since they only took up a very minor part of the new show. And I hope to see more of them throughout the shows run when it prompts it. Plus seeing those Shannen promos "Miss Me?" just got me all riled up for this series, even though I have hated what they did with Brenda for the most part.

What show, possibly with a specific season, would you compare 90210's first season to? What show would you like 90210 to model itself after?

• Really, its hard to compare the first season to any other shows first season. Only one I can think of is the originals first season in which it was still finding its ground and was very different from teh rest of the remaining seasons. And I hope they can model reamining seasons after the original and take the high school bits from Buffy and Veronica Mars.

What would you rate this show so far? What rating do you think the show has the potential to reach?

• I would rate this first season a solid 7. It wasnt the worse but it wasnt the best. It has loads of improvement to do.

• I think this should could reach a 9 if they really wanted to and if they have some good storylines and charecter development.

What do you want the writers to do next season?

• I want them to bring all the charecters together in a believable way. And give us some nice charecter moments and some more Silver/Kelly/Jackie moments.

Sixon_Love

What was your favorite episode of the season? What was your least?

Off the rails because Jess really got to show her talent and I was glued the tv the entire time.And than it added a little comedy to the drama with navid/adrianna babysitiing which I actually loved and thought was adorable


What were you disappointed with (in regards to the show, the writers/writing, the actors, etc.) this season?

I was defiantly dissappointed with the lack of character devolpment and the lack of devolpment for the friendships.They did a pretty good job with the few scenes of naomi/adrianna but they focused way too much on the relationships.I wish they had done more scenes like the bowling scene in episode 3.They need more scenes where the group does something togethere

What did you not see happening (but did this season)?

silver and ethan.I just never saw it comming even tho I should have since the writters like to pull things out of nowhere but the two hardly ever talked and than all of the sudden he was in love with her..Not to mention he gave a little speech to annie about having a girlfriend sine he was like 12 and needing to be on his own.The writters kinda screwed with his character by sort of the turning him into a nate archibald and I don't think they had any idea what to do with him so they got rid of him which I also was not expecting.I didn't think one of the main characters would leave after the first season

What storyline/relationship/character/etc. would you have liked more development for?

Silver/Naomi-I defiantly wish they would have focused on that friendship a little more .I didn't like how the next scene after silver decided to stop hating naomi,they acted like best friends.I wish they would have showed some awkward scenes first and than slowly build up to them being friends again because Silver inviting Naomi to her sleepover was so random since she had just stoped hating her after all these years so yea that could have been an awsome friendship

Naivd/Adrianna-I really do love this couple but before Naivd confessed his love for Adrianna,I would have really liked some scenes where he maybe talked to Dixon about liking her since they were kids or maybe show him watching her or something just to devlop it because even tho I personally think they have good chemistry,It would have made for an even better relationship if they had maybe showed us something before Navid was telling her he had loved her since they were kids even tho we had never seen them talk or anything


Was there a storyline/relationship/character/etc. you wished the writers had chucked?

Probaly Ethan/Silver...and yes one reason is because I love SD but also it just felt so pointless since hes leaving anyways.Its like the whole point of that kiss was to cause problems for SD and I knew they would break them up soon since thats what shows do but why did it have to be cheating??And I do love Jess/Dustin but not ethan/silver.Sorry it just felt so weried with silver calling him one of her bestfriends when the two had barley said two words to eachother till episode 20 but thats just what I think.




Who was your favorite character? Least favorite?

Favorites:Silver & Adrianna

Just because I felt they were the most interesting and I think they both got some of the biggest storylines this season and both actresses did amazing.

Least:I guess Ethan

I just felt like they did nothing with his character expect have him hookup with both of Naomis friends and I just didn't like what they did with his character at all

Were any of the characters/actors what you expected them to be from the beginning of the season?
If not, what would you have done differently in regards to these characters/actors?

I guess Adrianna was not what I expected when we first saw her.I will admit I didn't totaly love her character in the begining but they totaly turned her into this amazing strong character that I really started loving after the drug stuff

I really wish they would have done something different with Annies character.I really do love shenae but they should have give her some better material so she could show people what she can actually do.I hate that alot of people hate her but its just the way they wrote the character

What did you think of the appearances from the actors/characters of the original show?

Well I didn't really watch the orginal so I guess I didn't really care.i do like Kelly however but mostly when shes with silver

What show, possibly with a specific season, would you compare 90210's first season to? What show would you like 90210 to model itself after?

Its hard to compare it to another show but hm I would maybe like it to be more like OTH(The first few seasons)OR GG..I don't really know.I want it to be orginal and I think the writters hae some work to do to fix it and they need to balance out friendships and relationships since they seemed to have focused all on the couples and not the characters/friendships

What would you rate this show so far? What rating do you think the show has the potential to reach?

Hmm I guess I would maybe rate it a 5 or 6 or maybe even a 7.It had some good moments that I did enjoy and than some not so good moments and I defiantly think it has the potential to reach 10 if like I said,the writters were to focus on character&friendship devlopment and not rely only on the romance.And they need some more lighthearted fun moments where the girls or guys do something or the whole group like the bowling in episode 3

What do you want the writers to do next season?

Defiantly more devlopment for the characters and friendships.And when they plan on making someone fall in love,maybe have them talk or let us know they are interested in that person instead of having them share no scenes and than all of the sudden their in love.More fun group moments.
Stop screwing up SD..Sorry had to say it
I would have liked to see more Silver/Jackie because I loved their scenes in episode 3 and wanted to see more of their relationship
To balance out the characters because dixon is supposed to be the lead right?Well he hardly got any devlopment or storyline this season..Most of his scenes had to do with Silver but i did enjoy the episodes where he went to see his mom with annie.Show more Silver because it felt like alot of the episodes she only had a few minutes.Theres probaly more but I can't think of it right now

BabyJ

Agreed. I wasn't a fan of the writers' focus on relationships either, especially since some of the characters (namely Ethan and Dixon) seemed to be there solely for that reason. And Dixon was definitely vastly underused. He was supposed to be the new kid in town who ends up being a star player on the lacrosse team. Plus, he's a black kid at a predominantly white school. It would've been interesting for the writers to male Dixon and Ethan enemies at first--more so from Ethan's side as his status as the star jock gets threatened/overshadowed by the emergence of Dixon. And it would've also been nice to see Dixon possibly address the race issue at least a little bit. But we didn't get that.

And I'm hoping we do get more development of Liam next season. He was a new character this season, so I definitely didn't expect any extensive backstory for him just yet. At the same time, we saw Liam get carried away to military school, so I'm thinking that definitely needs to get addressed/acknowledged next season. Can't really do that without bringing up Liam's family life.

Is 'Off the Rails' Jason's episode? If so, agreed. Absolutely loved that one. Loved how Jason cut back from among the different scenes and yet still wove them together to form one story. Excellent work there. Wish Jason could be hired full-time, actually.

Silver/Naomi seemed to have plenty of potential at the beginning--especially with Naomi appealing to Silver to not write about her family on Silver's blog. Then we got that mini-history between the two and we saw their matching tattoos from back when they were still friends. Next thing we know, they're suddenly friends with showing of how they got there.

I also wasn't a fan of Adrianna at the beginning. Her whole stealing and lying from Naomi just rubbed me the wrong way. I expected Adrianna just to be a manipulative, conniving 'friend' who just always took advantage of Naomi and her wealth. But I was certainly pleasantly surprised to see Adrianna become more than that. We saw her struggles and saw her move on past everything. And in the meantime, we were able to discover just how amazing of an actress Jessica Lowndes is.

And Ty and George definitely were a lot more interesting than any of the regular guy characters, IMO. Well, Ty had the potential since he was supposed to be a popular player of sorts. And George was just the ass of the group. Both had more charisma on screen than Ethan and Navid combined. But sadly, they've also, for the most part, fallen off the face of the Earth.

Ooohh good comparison there. I hadn't even thought of the whole Nate-ifying of Ethan. As a GG fan, I've always figured Nate had potential to do more on the show, especially after his whole Serena/Blair/family thing in the first season and then the whole duchess thing at the beginning of the second season. Then it appeared the writers didn't really have much else to do with Nate, so they just stuck him with girls (as Ethan's been defined by his relationships) and then gave him a little more substance toward the end of the season with dealing with the Vanderbilt family (which, in a way, is somewhat like Ethan's sudden proclamation of love for Silver).

Having more development of Navid and Adrianna would've also been a great way to develop the friendship between Navid and Dixon. Navid seemed to be so welcoming and open to Dixon on the first day, which probably caught Dixon off guard. And then we had one scene of the two playing video games and bonding. Then nothing else. Maybe the occasional group chat in the hallway, but that was about it.

Agreed. Shenae has more talent than what she's shown this season. I've caught a couple of her episodes on Degrassi, and she can act. But the writers were too busy making Annie the perfect girl that it's no surprise a lot of viewers hate her. She tends to get everything to go her way, for the most part, it seems. I'm not a fan of perfect characters either; I always like my characters to seem more realistic, have actual problems.

Group scenes would be awesome, preferably not just random lunchtime shots. Last episode's scene of everyone sitting together at lunch when Adrianna and Navid announced their engagement was just too random and forced.

vicious_boy

What was your favorite episode of the season? What was your least?

My fave episode would have to be Off The Rails. I guess because i think they managed that storyline very well, a few little flaws, but still.

I just can't pick the worst, i guess i didn't think any of them were that horrible.

What were you disappointed with (in regards to the show, the writers/writing, the actors, etc.) this season?

I guess i was disappointed that changed it so much after the half season, even though there were some great eps in the other half too.

The thing i was most disappointed about was that they erased Annie and Silvers friendship. Out of the girl friendships i loved them the most.

What did you not see happening (but did this season)?

I guess Silver and Ethan. I know some fans wanted them, but i never thought they would actually have something between them. Especially since Dustin is leaving and they were getting a little close to the end of the season.

What storyline/relationship/character/etc. would you have liked more development for?

I wish they would develop Silver and Dixon better cause they paired them up too fast and then only gave them problems, made up and then more problems.

I would also have loved them to explore Ade and Ty more. They didn't even get a real shot!

Was there a storyline/relationship/character/etc. you wished the writers had chucked?

Would probably be Ethan's selv-discovery and his crush on Silver. It was never needed and especially the way he openly flirted with Silver made me lose his respect.

Who was your favorite character? Least favorite?

My fave would have to be Annie. I think she is pretty cool and i loved her in the finale. And i guess in several ways i get her, and get why she had enough and "errupted".

My least fave would have to be Deb. She just seemed to be boring unless Tabs was there.

Were any of the characters/actors what you expected them to be from the beginning of the season?

Yes and No. In a way they were like i thought they would be, but at the same time they weren't. Like i had the impression like Naomi would never really show any feelings t begin with (if you know what i mean) and they were always saying Dixon was a ladies man, which i never saw.

If not, what would you have done differently in regards to these characters/actors?

I have no idea lol. Maybe have Dixon a player so they could develop SD more.

What did you think of the appearances from the actors/characters of the original show?

I loved Kelly, i didn't like her and Silvers mother, and i loved to see Donna again. And seeing Brenda was fun, i always loved her in the origin.

What show, possibly with a specific season, would you compare 90210's first season to? What show would you like 90210 to model itself after?

I have no idea to be honest. On both.

What would you rate this show so far? What rating do you think the show has the potential to reach?

Maybe 6. It had alot of good moments, but also some bad ones.

What do you want the writers to do next season?

I want them to do some AL angst throughout the half season and have them at least kiss. I think they have such an amazing chemistry and have potential to be a great couple. And i want Ty to be a regular cause he have been a little more interesting than the mains. And i want him and Ade to be together.
Another thing i could see happening is that Annie had hit Dixon, but that he didn't die and she keeps it a secret and that it tears her apart. I think it would make her go down a really dark road and i know Shenea will handle that sooo well, just see her S7 storyline in Degrassi.

Hugo

What was your favorite episode of the season? What was your least?

Probably Off the Rails, it balanced the drama with the comedy and Jess was great in it also it was the first episode where there was one main SL and all the characters were involved in it !!
I also love Lucky Strike mainly because it was when I really became interested in the show and Silver as a character

IDK about the least favorite !!

What were you disappointed with (in regards to the show, the writers/writing, the actors, etc.) this season?

WOW this is going to be long

Naomi/Silver - It was one of the main relationships that I was really interested in but unfortunately it was never really explored

the couples were put together too quickly and most of the time too randomly, as a result friendships were not developed at all, most of the time it seemed like i was watching two-three different shows within the same 40 minutes since the SLs were not connected at all

What did you not see happening (but did this season)?

I read spoilers so I wasn't surprised by anything and I've come to accept that anything can happen in this show, small details like making sense are not important

What storyline/relationship/character/etc. would you have liked more development for?

As stated Naomi/silver, also Kelly/Silver it seems like the show forgets they're sisters for 5-6 episodes and then remembers it

but any friendship in general really, I would like to see more Navid/Dixon, Adrianna/Silver, Silver/Liam, Dixon/Naomi, Navid/Naomi, Navid/Annie, ...

Was there a storyline/relationship/character/etc. you wished the writers had chucked?

Ethan/Silver since Dustin was leaving I didn't see the point for it,

Silver/dixon - they got together too fast and then they just wouldn't break up !!! I would have liked it if the first break-up was the final one

Who was your favorite character? Least favorite?
Were any of the characters/actors what you expected them to be from the beginning of the season?
Silver is my favorite, IDK about a least favorite but the three girls Adrianna/Naomi/Silver make the show for me now Liam also

Naomi didn't turn out like I expected her to but I'm glad she didn't

If not, what would you have done differently in regards to these characters/actors?

I would have waited on the BPD and pregnancy SLs for S2 and built them up and dealt them in a better way, they seemed rushed with everything else going on

What did you think of the appearances from the actors/characters of the original show?

I didn't watch the original so in the beginning all the references to Brandon, Dylan and whatever was just confusing I don't mind them too much but I feel like their SLs need to be tied better to those of the teens like with Kelly, otherwise the episode suffers from it

What show, possibly with a specific season, would you compare 90210's first season to? What show would you like 90210 to model itself after?

IDK

What would you rate this show so far? What rating do you think the show has the potential to reach?

2/3 honestly I used to think it had potential but I don't anymore, so it'll probably become a 1 in season 2

What do you want the writers to do next season?
STOP WRITING !!

develop friendships more, make everyone single, deal with their family issues and try and build couples so their connection can be believable

heartlines

Was there a storyline/relationship/character/etc. you wished the writers had chucked?

+ I'm not a fan of Annie so I wouldn't have minded if the writers had decided to get rid of her. But then I think I'd be okay with her on the show if they didn't constantly pit her against Naomi. Or have them "share" boys. I get that Dixon's the brother, and Navid is Adrianna's shining knight, but there's got to be more men in WBH for Annie than just Naomi's cast-offs?

+ The lost brother SL was a big fail. Sticking around for a couple of episodes and then running off with all Tracy's money does not an interesting SL make. They revealed way to early that he wasn't what he was supposed to be. The whole point of those SLs is to shock when the pretense is revealed; we basically knew from the beginning who he was, we could work out why he was there (dodgy PI/money), and how he left wasn't filled with fireworks either.

+ Naomi joining the mean girls and then just.. not. What was that? Did they run out of ideas for Naomi in the middle of the season? It was a blink and you'll miss it SL that didn't leave any lasting impression.

+ Ethan kissing Silver. I don't mind Ethan getting with Silver, or them developing feelings towards each other because I'm neutral about who they date but in the last episode before Dustin doesn't come back? Way to potentially ruin SD/Silver with cheating for nothing.

Who was your favorite character?

Girls: Naomi, closely followed by Adrianna. But Silver would rate pretty highly up there, too. I guess all three girls are what makes the show interesting for me.

Boys: Navid, or at least funny Navid. With Liam and Dixon ♥

Chastidy

What was your favorite episode of the season? What was your least?

I liked The Bubble because I felt it gave us a lot of insight into Naomi and it was the episode where she became my fave. I think Off the Rails was the best episode of the series though in terms of cast interaction, direction etc.

Least favourites have to be the Dionsyion Debacle and The party's over becuase I felt that the writers basically used Naomi as a plot device to prop Annie and attempt to prop Annie and Liam. The whole thing was contrived and made me lose a lot of respect for the writers in general.

What were you disappointed with (in regards to the show, the writers/writing, the actors, etc.) this season?

I was disappointed in Annie because I was looking forward to seeing a new Brenda from the moment I heard about the revival but I got the farthest thing from her.

I was disapointed with the loss of Tabitha midway through the season as I thought that she added a lot of comedy to the Wilson house and made them a more interesting family.

I was also disappointed with the lack of overall development and cast interaction. With the exception of Ade and Silver, I don't feel that the other characters had much effort put into their development. While Naomi and Annie got plenty of screentime, there storylines seemed shallow. Naomi's family difficulties took a complete backwards turn as did Naomi in general midway through the season.

The Silver/Naomi frenemies always had a lot more potential then Naomi/Annie. Mainly because it didn't feel forced or contrived and AL and J.Stroup have a great chemistry and bounce off each other. Instead we got stuck with Naomi and Annie friends or foe all season long.

The Annie/Ethan/Naomi triangle was the greatest epic fail of all time. Mainly because it was so unbelievably dull. I didn't buy the attraction in Ethan at all.

The boys got a big fat nothing in terms of development.

What did you not see happening (but did this season)?

I was spoiled but the Silver bipolar and Silver/Ethan thing shocked me. Silver/Ethan was ridiculously done.

I also didn't see Brenda adopting a foreign baby.

What storyline/relationship/character/etc. would you have liked more development for?

With storyline, Silver and Ethan could have been very successful if the writers had bothered to do so properly. Unfortunetly the speed of how Ethans "feelings" developed and the way he had such an obvious lack of respect for their relationship came across as him just taking advantage of a confused Silver. It was awful.

Dixon and Navid with emphasis on Navid are severely under developed.

Ade/Navid could have had more development but I was happy with them.

Was there a storyline/relationship/character/etc. you wished the writers had chucked?

Annie's storylines, her relationships and basically her in general. I've tried to like her and I was able to tolerate her until the writers made it clear that I had to like her. Every scene she's in is contrived, every character she goes near ends up ruined in some way. She adds nothing to the show except frustration. I see more potential with Ethan then her.

Also the half brother storyline was embarrassing. A good idea but like most of the shows stories, failed in execution.

Who was your favorite character?
Naomi, Silver, Ade

Least favorite?

Annie
Ryan

Were any of the characters/actors what you expected them to be from the beginning of the season?

They all played out accordingly after I saw the first episode except for Ade. And that was a nice surprise.

If not, what would you have done differently in regards to these characters/actors?

I would have made Annie human. And dropped the whole Ethan, Ty everyone loves me aspect.

What did you think of the appearances from the actors/characters of the original show?

I think that fans of the original should be pretty disappointed. They've used and abused characters and ships from the previous show for cheap ratings boosts and have insulted nearly all the fanbases except for Kelly's.

Basically they ruined the original show.

What show, possibly with a specific season, would you compare 90210's first season to? What show would you like 90210 to model itself after?

I don't know.

What would you rate this show so far? What rating do you think the show has the potential to reach?

I reckon I'd give it a solid 5 but I reckon the emphasis on Dark! Annie might bring it down to a 3. It has the potential to get better but the writers need to man up and accept what does and doesn't work for them.

What do you want the writers to do next season?

Develop the boys.
Work on the Silver and Naomi frienship.
Focus on the family rifts with Silver, Naomi and Liam.
Keep Jen.
Write Annie out.

BabyJ

Excellent responses, everyone! And I basically agree with the vast majority.

So it appears that a lot of people are dissatisfied with Annie in general. Does anyone have any ideas as to how to make Annie more likable? Maybe with some examples, perhaps tweaking the storylines that already occurred this season?

Also, it seems Ryan's not exactly a popularly liked character, whether it's because of the writing or because of actor Ryan's presence (more likely the former though). Would you have preferred Ryan just not be a part of the show? Or would you have changed his storylines to make him more relevant?

heartlines

I'd forgotten about Tabby! I miss her - she at least brought some excitement into the Wilson family And then they send her off to do a Western?

It's strange but I only really like Anniie when she's with Naomi I rewatched the episode where she lets Naomi move in with the Wilsons' and it was sweet of her to do. I think their friendship before the prom was probably the only honest one on the show, with Naomi and Adrianna, and that's because they'd worked through their issues and moved on. Silver and Annie are picked up and dropped at will. Ethan and Dixon have been savaged. Navid doesn't really seem to have any strong friendship ties.

I think if they're going to turn Annie around, they need to make the ties she has with the other cast people more consistent. I don't understand why she didn't have one scene with Silver for her BPD SL

BabyJ

I guess on the bright side, without Tabs around, we were subjected to fewer contrived family scenes? Maybe?

Good point. I suppose we never really saw much of Annie/Naomi aside from some sort of acknowledge and potential intimidation on Naomi's part. Then next thing we see, Annie's offering her house to Naomi. Annie doesn't even extend a hand to Silver, and she's supposed to be BFF with Silver.

James26

Here's something that's probably too much to wish for.

I think it would've been nice if Marshall Hershkowitz and Ed Zwick had been hired as the new show runners/head writers, because I know the quality would probably go way up if that happened. But as I said, it sounds highly unlikely.

Chastidy

WHo were they?