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Why wouldn't Jack reveal the man who killed his niece? I know things in soaps are always more complicated, but it takes a lot to let fly someone whose caused the death of a family member.

Being accepted and understood is a huge attraction in itself. We all put up different personalities and masks with different people and a lot of times very few people see the real us. Where we can let down all our protections and just be free, knowing that there is unconditional love there is very freeing.

So I can see the fact that they don't force each other to change and that they accept who they are must be so refreshing and rewarding considering their other partners limited them.

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Kylebraxtonisthebest

I cant wait for the major explosion of chaos when the affair gets outed.

Jack was in a no-win situation because he was caught between his loyalties to both Adam and Billy. Delia's death was a tragic accident that had no good outcome for anyone involved at the end of it all.

Billy didn't just threaten him with the gun, he did shoot him because Adam has the bullet wound from the incident.

I believe Jack was torn between protecting Adam/Billy for different and complicated emotional reasons. He surely came out of it all looking worse to Phyllis and Billy since in all honesty his allegiance should have been to his brother.

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Marco situation?

I am a big fan of owning up to your mistakes. It make have been an accident, but Adam's behavior caused the death of Billy's daughter. If Jack saw himself as Adam's father, he should have encourage Adam to own up to what he had done. Even if was an accident, he still played a part in it all. I don't know the details, but maybe Billy was angry that Adam seem to "get away" with his daughter's death. Lots of times in tragic deaths people need something or someone to blame even if there is none and it was nearly the universe giving us all the finger. Billy shouldn't had shot at him, but Jack should have hid Adam. He just caused a lot of pain and hurt for a lot of people keeping silent.

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There are too many details to even begin to try explain that entire storyline and the complexities of it but yes long story short Billy hated Adam for a very long-time over Delia, rightfully so, but it was never as simple as Adam "getting away" with what happened. When Adam finally stood trial last year (post his return from the dead) Billy actually forgave him and was able to finally come to terms with what happened the night Delia died because his own negligence did also play a role in the events which lead to the accident. IMO I always believed Chloe was affected much worse by the loss of Delia because she completely fell apart afterwards and is still bordering on deranged whenever she makes an appearance in GC.

Before Adam's "death" Jack had no clue about the role he had in Delia's death. However, Adam's scumbag father Victor did know and used it to blackmail Adam over visitation to his infant grandson.

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Ugh I always knew Victor was ugh, but ugh that's just horrible to sink that low with your own family.

I think it's more the fact that Adam came first, that Jack lied and deceived Billy about Adam. That Jack took the coward selfish way out, instead of being upfront and honest with Billy and trusting him to not make things worse.

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The screwed up relationship between Victor/Adam is just astonishing in how far Victor will go to hurt the ones he says he loves which is really what created the bond between Adam/Jack because Jack has been the father that Adam desperately always wanted Victor to be.

Just when you think Victor cant sink any lower he surprises you. Likely currently he's managed to frame Adam for a murder he 100% did not commit. So now Chelsea & Adam are once again fighting to keep their little family together.

Yeah I think Jack and Billy's brotherhood was damaged beyond repair when Jack kept silent about Adam (while he was Gabriel) and well now this Philly affair will just blow it to hell forever with no chance of being repaired.

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I'm sure there will be comments when the affair comes out. That Billy is doing this as revenge against Jack for the whole Adam thing. When I just can't see Billy doing that (from the little I know about him), I think it's genuine.

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Yeah the audience knows it's real. But I'm sure that people like Jack, Adam, and even Victor will think it's some big revenge plot or that it's some joke and can't be real. At least at the first shock of it all.

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I definitely agree with you there.
I don't think Adam would really care to be quite honest.
Now Jack on the other hand... he will be full of rage and he won't hate Phyllis at all, he'd probably think Billy took advantage of the whole situation.

Victor will just probably be happy if that means Victoria and Billy are forever broken apart.

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Well since Adam considers Jack like a father, perhaps Adam will be angry at Billy and Phyllis for Jack's sake.

Kylebraxtonisthebest

I've thought about this a lot and I'd usually be totally into Philly because I love complicated, messy couples but it being an affair I believe that's what has put me off towards it because I'm so over affairs in soaps right now. I blame one certain soap that I watch (Cheerios you know the show that I mean ).

I fear that Jack's bonding with Hilary will lead to something between them when the Philly affair comes out.

I agree Victor would be ecstatic and very gleeful at Victoria/Billy being 100% over.
Even Victoria knows their done because she said a little while ago that she's sensed that Billy's heart has changed and she's right he doesn't love her anymore because his heart is Phyllis' now. Speaking of Victoria I'm loving her with Travis.

Adam has much bigger problems right now with trumped up "murder" charges against him so I doubt he'll care about the Philly affair when he's fighting for his freedom. Though if that SL is wrapped up by the time the affair is revealed then he might just make a snarky comment.

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