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Scully_fan 02-04-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by whereareurshoes (Post 53605049)
lol. i dunno lauren. i guess it took them to the same emotional heights? i thought it kind of dragged on, but i mean, ok. everyone reacts to things differently.

You think so? :look: I mean I came away from last night not really feeling emotional at all. :lol:

Skinsfan 02-04-2011 08:19 AM

Overall, Mo there can't be another Naomily. None of Gen 3's storylines are wrapped up in each other like Naomily's was, so whether you hate them or not there can't be a another Naomily :shrug: Gen 3 is more about friendship, Gen 2 was more about romance, therefore Gen 3 won't have the right dynamics for an epic love story like Naomily's. That was what I meant.

Rich/Grace I already ship and think they are the Gen 3 OTP, but they will only ever reach Sid/Cassie level of OTP. As Gen 1 like Gen 3 had more a friendship dynamic than a romance one like Gen 2. Therefore it can't be replicated. Plus no other couple will reach their level of popularity, that was a once in a show thing. Gen 3 also have less viewers so obviously they can't anyway :lol:

SLK89 02-04-2011 08:21 AM

I do agree with no couple being like N/E just because, even those who write for Skins as well as the actors, have said that no couple/characters have been as popular and liked as Emily and Naomi. The response to them was absolutely unreal for a show like Skins. :love:

That is not to say that other couples are not as good as them in the slightest though, at all. I just also think that N/E was a very fragile story line and a different take on love which hadn't really been explored on television regarding teenagers at least.

Skinsfan 02-04-2011 08:25 AM

But the other couples aren't as good, Lynne. And I'm not talking from a Naomily fan viewpoint. I am talking as a writing viewpoint. None of the Gen 1 couples had the work and time put into them that Naomily did, none of the other Gen 2 couples did and none of the Gen 3 couples are getting it either.

So in terms of a love story, Naomily is the best Skins have done because they were all about being a love story, whereas the other couples were torn between triangles or they were skipped over for episodes. Even Rich/Grace got nothing romantic in 501. Naomily in every episode got something romantic, infact they got it from the trailer :lol: that is what makes them different to every other Skins couple, and in a love story sense-better. Whether you like them best or not. Naomily are a one time thing in Skins, it doesn't mean they have to be your personal OTP. But from a writing standpoint they are the Skins OTP.

SLK89 02-04-2011 08:30 AM

I think it is way too soon to see what writing could be done for Gen3 couples. Regarding Naomi and Emily, by the end of episode 2 they had barely said anything to one another and only look at each other. Nothing from those two episodes, to me, was great writing regarding their relationship at all.

It is unfair to look at two episodes, where only two characters have been explored and stand by the fact that Gen3 can't have a couple which has the potential for a very strong, amazing story line. I am not going to say this is going to happen, but I think it is too soon to rule it out. Especially since one of the characters we have literally only seen in one scene so far.

As someone who started watching Gen2 without the knowledge of who any of the characters were or what they were about (same as how I start Gen3) I did not really understand the whole Naomi/Emily thing until episode 6. So, I think it really all depends on how fast some people connect with a potential couple or character(s).

I, because I am biased, am of course going to agree with you that no couple on Skins can beat N/E because I love them to bits but that is not to say that other viewers will react the same way.

whereareurshoes 02-04-2011 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Skinsfan (Post 53605191)
Overall, Mo there can't be another Naomily. None of Gen 3's storylines are wrapped up in each other like Naomily's was, so whether you hate them or not there can't be a another Naomily :shrug: Gen 3 is more about friendship, Gen 2 was more about romance, therefore Gen 3 won't have the right dynamics for an epic love story like Naomily's. That was what I meant.

Rich/Grace I already ship and think they are the Gen 3 OTP, but they will only ever reach Sid/Cassie level of OTP. As Gen 1 like Gen 3 had more a friendship dynamic than a romance one like Gen 2. Therefore it can't be replicated. Plus no other couple will reach their level of popularity, that was a once in a show thing. Gen 3 also have less viewers so obviously they can't anyway :lol:

but still lisa, some people would acknowledge everything that you just said as a weakness. friendships are really important to skins fans, so they slag off gen 2 because it was only about romances. if you hated the fact that gen 2 had so much romance going on, then you're going to love gen 3 which some people are saying is going back to the format of "original" friends which is more about the love between a group of friends. as long as that exists, people won't care if there is no huge romance. you don't need an epic romance to have a good show.

that's not to say that i don't love gen 2 and naomily. i'm not even a huge gen 3 stan at this point. i just think it's silly to pretend like gen 3 will never match up gen 2 because their romances won't be as epic when a large enough portion of skins fans don't give a **** about romances.

anyway, hi lynne! :)
naomi and emily's popularity really is down to their beautiful fragile story. it is quite a rarity. i still don't understand when people say it was all about the lesbianism when it was really all about the love.

ia lauren. i didn't feel a lot from rich's episode. i was actually exasperated a lot of the time waiting to see more gracey! idk if i would have liked it at all if she wasn't in it. :P

Skinsfan 02-04-2011 08:33 AM

But they had something romantic there from their first scene together, and in every scene they had basically. Gen 3 are already said not to be about big romances. Rich/Grace already have had less than Naomily, that's my point. I don't think JB wants another Naomily, he wants something different for Gen 3.

I don't feel an epic lovestory with any of Gen 3, though I do ship Rich/Grace. But they don't have Naomily's history, which made them deeper than say Sid/Cassie. None of Gen 3 besides Mini/Nick have a history and they are a trainwreck. So yes, I think we can say now it's not possible for any Gen 3 couple to reach Naomily's level. Not saying Rich/Grace can't be a great couple, but they can't have the same dynamic as Naomily.

Mo, I never said that :lol: I said in terms of romance they can't match up. I never said in any other way. It's far too early to judge Gen 3, and everyone is jumping the gun. We have only had 2 episodes. The rest might be pieces of crap. You can only judge a generation once they are over.

SLK89 02-04-2011 08:34 AM

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naomi and emily's popularity really is down to their beautiful fragile story. it is quite a rarity. i still don't understand when people say it was all about the lesbianism when it was really all about the love
Yeah, I love how some people say they are really popular because of all the lesbian fans but then again me and none of my friends are gay and we absolutely fell in love with them :sigh:

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But they had something romantic there from their first scene together, and in every scene they had ba
It might just be me, but I really didn't even remotely care for them as an item until Panda Pop's party (so she was good for something then.... <-- I could not resist to make a bitchy remark there.)
No couple will have the same dynamic. Naomi and Emily have a history together and from the moment they started things up to the moment in the shed it really was one of those true love, soul mate stories. I can agree that this won't happen in Gen3.

Skinsfan 02-04-2011 08:38 AM

I cared from the S3 trailer and the cheek kiss. I was a Naomily shipper then :lmao:

When I ship a couple (which isn't often), I ship them from the first second or not at all. If I don't feel an instant connection then I don't really care :lol:

I think Gen 3 is heading for more epic friendships than any epic romances. I really only see signs of Rich/Grace being a big romance, and even there it's only to a certain level. Sid/Cassie level, which Naomily did surpass. But I still love Sid/Cassie :sigh:

Scully_fan 02-04-2011 08:39 AM

Yeah I'm kind of with Lien Wu on this. I mean I didn't ship Naomily untill episode 3 when Emily admitted the truth, and I am gay.

SLK89 02-04-2011 08:40 AM

Yeah I am not a huge shipper either. I can 'like' couples, like I do right now with Rich and Grace. I like them but if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. I've only ever shipped two couples and then I'm like "fnsjkfhriui" :lol:

Emsy is such a homo.

Skinsfan 02-04-2011 08:42 AM

I started shipping Rich/Grace from the clips of S5 :lol: that's my point, I felt a connection with them so they are my Gen 3 OTP. But I don't get the same epic vibe off them that I do Naomily. I get a CS vibe off Rich/Grace.

Scully_fan 02-04-2011 08:42 AM

I don't like Rich/Grace that much. I don't understand why Grace likes him tbh. :lol: It was my problem with Cassie/Sid. I never got why Cassie liked Sid that much.

Skinsfan 02-04-2011 08:44 AM

Leave my ships alone *hugs them to my chest*

Anyway you ship death so IDEC if you like them :P

The thing about Skins ships is they are never perfect, and IRL I probably wouldn't ship them together. Only Naomily is the exception to that, they are the ONLY Skins couple I truly believe would work IRL. But as it's tv I can like imperfect couples like CS and Rich/Grace :lol:

whereareurshoes 02-04-2011 08:44 AM

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Mo, I never said that I said in terms of romance they can't match up. I never said in any other way. It's far too early to judge Gen 3, and everyone is jumping the gun. We have only had 2 episodes. The rest might be pieces of crap. You can only judge a generation once they are over.
i just responded that way because whenever anyone says they like gen 3 better, the fact that there is no naomily or no huge romance in that gen is immediately brought up. but really who cares? gen 3 can be fantastic without a focus on big romances. a lot of fans would actually prefer it.

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Yeah, I love how some people say they are really popular because of all the lesbian fans but then again me and none of my friends are gay and we absolutely fell in love with them
people do realize that lesbians are a minority group right? i doubt lesbians make up anywhere near half of the skins audience. so because over half of skins fans took a liking to naomi and emily, i'd say most naomily shippers are actually straight. come to think of, i think I know more straight naomily shippers than gay ones. so whatever the haters can just stop talking now. they aren't even making sense.

really, i think anyone regardless of their sexuality can connect to naomily's story. it's a beautiful thing.


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