Live Feed Spoilers [BB15] #386: Bullies bullying bullies about being bullies... What's a bully again?
 

Thanks for the new thread. I won't be around much as I'm going away until Monday but that's probably a good thing. Because after hearing about last night and knowing how they'll edit it, I'm just angry at this season. If it were at least getting a decent edit I wouldn't mind AS much. But it's so obvious it won't.

^ I have a little bit of hope, only because I feel like they've been painting Amanda as kind of a bully and from my understanding of the fight Jessie was just reiterating that. So we'll see. But you're probably right.

Thank you Shira! Is this the quickest we have went through a thread this season?

That's so true though, he's right. When it happens it will prove Jessie right because Amanda walks around this house thinking she can just force everyone into doing what she wants because she's the loudest. Every time something like this happens McCrae seems to have a good grasp on how unreasonable Amanda is acting, tells her, but doesn't push it further than 2 minutes. I wish he would.

And now time for a long rant...

When I was reading updates I saw that Judd told Aaryn that Jessie was in one of the best spots in the house and then completely ruined it herself. I've heard this repeated many times on forums and it's made me mad.

First of all, that is very rich coming from Judd, but we can't expect him to see the irony. Second of all, Jessie was always at the bottom of the alliance. Actually she wasn't even in the alliance so she was underneath the bottom. No one ever included her in anything and her name was constantly brought up as a potential first to go from their side had they made the F8. If someone from the "other side" got HOH before that - who do you think would've been the first name out of the knockout's mouths as a nomination? Jessie. It's ridiculous to pretend like they would have had her back at all, no matter what was said in the past. They never had any sense of loyalty to her and she was always expendable. Well except for Judd, I'll give him that, I do think that until recently he would've kept her as long as possible but I don't believe that anymore.

All of this Jessie target stuff, much like the Judd target stuff, was started without her even really doing anything. It was created by Helen, intensified by Amanda, and then solidified by Aaryn all because of paranoia and personal feelings towards her. The only thing that Jessie did to get this ball rolling was tell Candice about the deal. She definitely, definitely shouldn't have done that but did that ensure that her game was blown up? Um, no. This cast tells everyone everything so to try and pretend that moment sealed her fate is unwarranted.

The past 3 nights she hasn't helped her position at all. She shouldn't have spoke with CrazyMarie & Aaryn about evicting Candice and she shouldn't have been snappy and then hid in her bed 2 nights ago - not because that isn't a perfectly acceptable thing to do as a human but because this is a game and unfortunately you think strategically at all times. Acting like that is not strategic. The worst move she made was trying to get Andy on board to evict Amanda Thursday morning. That was a definite, huge eff up but guess what? She was already done at that point! They had already blamed everything bad that happened on her (and Judd) so that didn't move her position in the game at all. She would have been nominated this week regardless of that especially given this cast's track record with big talk. They all would've chickened out on nominating Judd and who is seen by them as an extension of him? Her. Not due to anything she did but all due to what they think about her and who they associate her with.

She definitely has a big mouth and is emotional (which is why I'm so nervous for her this week because I can just see her acting short with everyone and then getting evicted because of it), two things that haven't helped her out, but to try and pretend that she did all of this by herself is just ridiculous. The only thing this did was bring the fact that her game was done to her attention, which I'm actually happy about. Much rather her know that still be in the dark. Her position now is 75% due to the other HGs creating things up in their mind and 25% due to her behavior. It's the same thing with Judd. It's funny in a shoot-youself kinda way, actually, that both of their games completely blew up separately without them realizing and now they're separated when they both could really use a partner.

This is really going to look bad for CBS if one of the racists as HOH got rid of one of one POC and now the second racist got rid of the other back to back.

i think judd did a lot more then 25 percent to his own game. and he did about 25 on his own to sink jessies. cause she was loyal to him. and he's nothing but a whore monger in the end. sitting their listening to these idiots sit and talk about how their keeping jessie cause she's 'stupid' and candice isnt. jessie isnt stupid, maybe gamewise she isnt smart. but she's obviously got a higher actual IQ then any of the self proffessed geniuses in that house.

and yeah, the two racists getting rid of the two black people, that will look good for cbs huh? i knew ginamarie wouldnt be good as an hoh. and this nick stalker thing is borderline insane. she needs a damn therapist. most of them need shock therapy at this point.

Seriously. :/ It's not looking good for CBS with this.

Also, EVERYONE is saying that if the fight last night is twisted to favor Amanda people are gonna get really suspicious about her involvement with CBS and how rigged the game is. Like a LOT of people, even non-Jessie fans are saying that.

Totally, it's already getting pretty fishy and I'm not into conspiracy theories here lol.

I'm not either. But yeah, if they continue this for much longer it'll be hard to ignore.

How did Judd screw up Jessie's game?

The only thing is that he is stupid to think she screwed up his. It's his mannerisms and attitude that got people against him and the worst part is, he doesn't even know they are against him.

I'm "over" him for right now as I don't think this is permanent. I don't want him going anywhere though.

The whole reason they started talking about her was because he sunk his own game and she was connected to him. Like they started being paranoid about him and then lumped her into everything. Then it spun out of control.

Yup. She went down by association and then that combined with their personal feelings and a few of the things Jessie did just blew it up.

I'm not even sure what to think about the Amanda connection. I didn't believe it at first but after last night...Idk what to think.

Can we send vibes for Jessie to not have 4th day in a row of game explosion? Please? Pleaseeeee Gangsta God. :lol:

But Meg, at this point its just like, blowing her game up entirely might even be better for her. Just get it all out. Then she's less of a threat, etc. I don't know. I don't want her to kiss butt at all or apologize. Perfect scenario would be for her to win POV and just ignore everyone who's been terrible to her. Like literally ignore them, win HOH in the DE and send someone I hate home. Lol

Holy moly. :eek: Amanda is awful. She really is disgusting. I hate to use the word "attack" but that's exactly what she did to Jessie. Completely blew up on her FOR PLAYING THE GAME. Yes god forbid she try and play for herself and not queen Amanda like everyone else except for Spencer and Candice. I can't even stomach this girl anymore. And I can't believe they blocked the fight. That really does raise suspicion. If they show it anyway in Amandas favor, we know the deal. Calling someone a **** & repeatedly using the F word the edit should not be in that persons favor. Also JESSIE is the ****? Really? REALLY? This is disgusting. I did see someone on Jokers say that they only let them outside to smoke because they weren't finished taring HOH down that's why it wasn't shown. But that's BS they could have called a lockdown again as soon as the fight started. We've NEVER been blocked from a verbal fight for as long as I've been watching the feeds during BB7.

^ DAMN TIFF YOU ARE READING THE GOSPEL TRUTH RIGHT NOW. PREACH.

POV is definitely perfect scenario. I think I would die and go to heaven. :lol:

I actually do think you're right about the game blowing up not being that bad. I was thinking that this morning when I read about what happened, I really wasn't too upset because I was happy that everything at least got out in the open. It allowed Jessie to see where she is in the house right now which is what I wanted. What I meant was IF Amanda apologizes to her today or something, which I think she might because as of now Jessie is staying in the house, I don't want Jessie to blow her off. Doesn't have to kiss ass, but I want her to at least talk to her.

BTW Helen is a true psychopath. I actually think she's worse than Amanda in some ways because Helen does not even realize what she's doing whereas Amanda has somewhat of a clue, sometimes, and does it anyway.